Electric Motor Secrets

[Jetijs]

George,
Thank's for the kind words
I didn't quite understand that out sourcing part (my english could be better). I tried to fiend some commercial rotor/stator cores that I could use for our purpose, but I could not find anything online and when I visited the local motor rewinding company, all they had was simple induction motor cores with many poles that are very hard to wind like we need and even harder if we need bifilar windings. So I figured it would be easier to make a stator/rotor core by myself exactly as I need them. I bought some 0.35mm thick sheets of silicon steel from the motor rewinding company and gave them along with my CAD drawings to a guy, who works in a local laser cutting company. Now I have to glue/bolt the plates together in needed thickness. I already finished the rotor piece, tomorrow I will work on the stator and if everything will work out fine, I will post some pictures.

lighty,
thanks for the tip, I will try out the toolbox stuff. Also I will make all my CAD files available for download when everything is finished, because there is still some minor issues to solve and some dimensions can change in the motor building process. Just remind me later
Thank you,
Jetijs

[lighty]

Here is the file:

http://www.emuprim.lv/bildez/motor.exe

You should be able to view this file with no need for additional software. The bolts and nuts there have no thread, because I have not learned to draw them yet, also it is not important.

If you have Solidworks with Toolbox installed you can simply use standard bolts and nuts that already have predefined threads (you can easily modify those files).

BTW- would you be so kind as to share the SW files? It's not a big deal if you choose not to but I have a friend who would like to take a shot at the same design if you succeed. Exact dimensions and specs would greatly help him.

Jetjis

I am blown away by your designing ability. I wish I had 1/10th of your talent in CAD design and building ability. You are an inspiration for me to shoot higher. Do you out source your cuts for the engine parts or do you do that in house? If you out source it, are they online and could you share that resourse? There are a bunch of stator and rotor combo's I think about but never dreamed of designing and having them made the way you have. I have always had to make do with whatever I could canabolize from used equipment. You have set the bar high.

Thanks for showing the way

George

[Jetijs]

Thanks Steven,
I appreciate to hear this from you, sine you are an experienced motor builder

Cant wait for your results

[nali2001]

Test

o.u right here.
http://www.krystyna.nl/Machine/MagnetExtraPower.wmv

[nali2001]

Good work

That looks like a good system and excellent design!

I must say I finally am getting ready to make my sys running. Must make some stuff to hold the double opto and we will see how it goes...

Steven

[Jetijs]

Thanks Peter
If you can not open the exe file, then you need to download the e-drawings viewer software from here:
eDrawings Viewer, SolidWorks Viewer and AutoCAD Viewer (DWG and DXF Viewer)
It's free. Then just open this file with that software:

http://www.emuprim.lv/bildez/motor.EASM

Also I migrated on a new image hosting place. Had to replace all the image links in most of my posts here. Unfortunately some of the images are lost permanently, I mean my CAD drawings from the previous motor design.

[Peter Lindemann]

Great Work!

Hello everyone
I am sorry about my slow progress. I have now removed all the "fuzz" form all the plate cuts. That was boring I decided to make the motor 50mm thick, that would be about 143 plates. I am ready now for gluing/bolting them together. I made a small test by gluing two spare plates together - everything holds very well. Also I wont need any insulation between plates, because the plates are already covered with a thin insulation material. In the mean time I have completed my CAD drawings. I used some Ideas form Steven. At first I wanted to use such bearings:

I had these laying around, but unfortunately they are too thick and with too big outer diameter for my purposes, so I will just go with standard one row ball bearings which are smaller in size and also thinner. Here are some pictures of my CAD drawings:






The inner square stator holding plates will be made out of polycarbonate so that there is about 6mm spacing between the stator poles and the polycarbonate. This is because the coils, that will be wound on the poles, will also eat up some space. This gap is further increased by about 3mm with the aluminum outer golding plates. I think, that 9-10mm should be enough for the coils. I made an .exe file that you can download and see my model in 3D for yourself. You can also make any part invisible or transparent to see what is behind there. Here is the file:

http://www.emuprim.lv/bildez/motor.exe

You should be able to view this file with no need for additional software. The bolts and nuts there have no thread, because I have not learned to draw them yet, also it is not important. I designed it all so that I can use materials I have to make this motor. Please take a look and tell me what you think.
Thank you,
Jetijs

Jetijs,

Everything looks great. I couldn't open your .exe file, but I can see enough from the images here. A friend of mine and I have simulated a motor design very similar to this, and the performance is VERY GOOD. I believe you should be able to demonstrate COP>1 with this model if the air-gaps are small enough.

Just take your time, and do everything carefully. No need to apologize to the group. The "reward" for good work is in the result!

Keep up the great work.

Peter

[Jetijs]

Hello everyone
I am sorry about my slow progress. I have now removed all the "fuzz" form all the plate cuts. That was boring I decided to make the motor 50mm thick, that would be about 143 plates. I am ready now for gluing/bolting them together. I made a small test by gluing two spare plates together - everything holds very well. Also I wont need any insulation between plates, because the plates are already covered with a thin insulation material. In the mean time I have completed my CAD drawings. I used some Ideas form Steven. At first I wanted to use such bearings:

I had these laying around, but unfortunately they are too thick and with too big outer diameter for my purposes, so I will just go with standard one row ball bearings which are smaller in size and also thinner. Here are some pictures of my CAD drawings:






The inner square stator holding plates will be made out of polycarbonate so that there is about 6mm spacing between the stator poles and the polycarbonate. This is because the coils, that will be wound on the poles, will also eat up some space. This gap is further increased by about 3mm with the aluminum outer holding plates. I think, that 9-10mm should be enough for the coils. I made an .exe file that you can download and see my model in 3D for yourself. You can also make any part invisible or transparent to see what is behind there. Here is the file:

http://www.emuprim.lv/bildez/motor.exe

You should be able to view this file with no need for additional software. The bolts and nuts there have no thread, because I have not learned to draw them yet, also it is not important. I designed it all so that I can use materials I already have to make this motor. Please take a look and tell me what you think.
Thank you,
Jetijs

I would like to throw this out there

I think what John Bedini actually invented was a way to turn Static electricity into a useful form. I think that is why he gets those off the scope high voltage spikes. I think the energy from the either is Static electricity. Of course this is just a hypothosis and I will now try to test that theory. Imagen if that was the case! Then you could match Lindemanns attraction motor with no back emf with a static generator which has no back emf and then use a bedini circuit to convert it to a useful form. Anyway that is just a thought I had and wanted to share with you guys on the forum. I have learned much from you and I wanted to contribute something even if does not amount to much.

Thank you Nali2001

I really appreciate the info on getting cores. That is going to be a huge help.

[nali2001]

Cores

-=Edit=- they changed the site, use this link :Alpha-Core, Inc.

Hi there,
If you want U shaped cores, you can get them from Alpha-Core, Inc.
On the left choose: Magnetic cores, then at the bottom of the middle page choose: C-Cores Stock. They have lots of sizes and good prices.
Note, these are grain orientated cores which is a big plus.

Regards,
Steven

Where can I buy the motor

Hi, I was able to stop the you tube video in just the right spot to see it is a Howard Industries motor. I can't tell but I think it is a 2.5 hp or maybe a .25 hp with an rpm rating of 6200. I have searched and I can't find one for sell. Do you have any leads as to where I could purchase one?? Also, I would love to be able to buy some u shaped steel laminations instead of canabalizing MOTS for them. If you know where to easliy buy them that would be helpful as well. I want to build several versions of Peter's attraction motor and also try to see if the flynn flux effect will help at all with it.

Thanks,

George

You tube Attraction motor videos

I would like to get the exact motor used and if possible the information so I can duplicate that set up. Does anyone know how I can get that information. I appreciate the help.

[Aaron]

Patent 4019103

Thanks Peter, I thought that looked pretty confusing!

Here is a direct pdf download from Patent 2 PDF, one of my favorite patent sites. Patent 4019103

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I changed my post down below from the google patent to this one.