Multifilar Generator Coil - Lenz delay Experiments

[BroMikey]

The smaller 4" rotor seemed more promising, the speed up was very obvious and audible, though again, not much useable power with that version also.

Look at current handling at 1000ft. for 29awg it is 100ma. So let's say
the average small rig needs 200watts to run the dc drive motor that
turns the rotor and magnets. Using 100ma say at 100volts= 10watts
BUT each coil should have 3 channels of around 1000ft so 3X10watts=
30watts per coil at best case. This would require you have coils to
reach the break even point.

Chart showing current handling AWG wire for 1000ft and over.

Using 25awg I am targeting 333ma per strand X channels=1000ma
per coil so only 2 coil packs are needed to reach the break even point.

[BroMikey]

Hi all, Hi bromikey, ok here, just taking a break .........

I'm probably doing something wrong, just not sure what that is, so I wait for inspiration.

Hello Sky and Alex

I am changing things right now but I have to hurry because I am teaching
this in school this year to my son Jordan. I had to make out riggers to
accommodate the large diameter coils that are narrow not wide.

It is also important to make a cover for safety during operation. Jordan
and I are working together on his project during school hours. Still got
to cover readin, writin and rithmatick

[alexelectric]

"BroMikey " You asked me about my "C" core?
If so, and how good you are moving forward, and then show your project already finished.

SkyWatcher, you keep moving forward in the flywheel system, none of the projects is simple, material and economic inputs are required, and time to be assessing each change or improvement.
and if it is true in occasions, a break is taken to recover some strength and inspiration
but happy day companions

[SkyWatcher]

Hi all, Hi bromikey, ok here, just taking a break from it and maybe the rest will bring inspiration.

Thing is also, the results were not very good with my setup, not much useable power.

The smaller 4" rotor seemed more promising, the speed up was very obvious and audible, though again, not much useable power with that version also.

I'm probably doing something wrong, just not sure what that is, so I wait for inspiration.

Working on a flywheel generator project I never followed through with at the moment, similar to chas campbell device.
peace love light

[alexelectric]

thanks for the comment

[BroMikey]

One more sample that must be worked with great care and safety, I hope I have no problems with the generator at 2800 rpm, the work is slow because I had to put a 10 mm bar shaft, but it needs a larger diameter, and I have I have to change the bearings and brackets that I have requested, but the generator project goes ahead, it takes time

Yes that is what I use a ten millimeter separate shaft with it's own
two bearing then a coupler. You asked me about my "C" core? I use it
as a self centering arrangement. This way I get equal pull off the same
cylinder magnet on the rotor. Also there is a trading back and forth of
flux since each coil is hit with a north and south polarity at the same
time. Not saying it is better than doing it another way however each
design has it's application. Another benefit is the mechanical setting
of each coil. The large mass of copper sets a good ways away from the
rotors center allowing many coils to fit nicely around the outside.

This may not be as compact because of the large diameter needed yet
is a more narrow width similar to the pancake motor dimension. It is
something I wanted to try. Also I found out shielding magnets cuts
down on the cogging and is needed when magnets are very very close
together like a 24 or 20. Although when there are only 6 magnets
shields can be cut way exposing the cores to a small amount more of
flux. Sometimes every little bit helps.

[alexelectric]

One more sample that must be worked with great care and safety, I hope I have no problems with the generator at 2800 rpm, the work is slow because I had to put a 10 mm bar shaft, but it needs a larger diameter, and I have I have to change the bearings and brackets that I have requested, but the generator project goes ahead, it takes time

[BroMikey]

Hi all, the double drill chuck motor adapter works nicely, it runs very true.

Going to use this scooter motor now and remove the drill press monstrosity.

Now the motor can easily be swapped for anything with a shaft diameter of 1/2" or less.
And if it needs some pillow block bearings, etc., that can easily be implemented as well, as some are on my shelves.

Also, will be able to use the motor pulse controller I built to run this motor and we can see changes in rotor speed better.
peace love light

I hope you didn't get hit by flying magnets. Did you have an issue or
breakdown? Waiting for parts? I see you stopped working on this one.
Mine is coming slow too. Hope nobody got hurt. When you tighten the
gaps you are in for a big problem using paper wheels.I have
to use metal to feel safe.

Even the best builders here have has an embarrassing moment as they
all under estimated the mechanical engineering aspects. So far not one
practical build has emerged.

Rotor explodes here




[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEEDJiC8Jqc[/VIDEO]

[alexelectric]

interesting page the evolution of the transformer

[Quantum_well]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://edisontechcenter.org/Transformers.html&ved=2ahUKEwi_g8SmxYfkAhURtnEKHZmYAuEQFjAJegQIDxAL&usg=AOvVaw34PL8Wu77xhyaWP8z0HbM5

[alexelectric]

It's okay to offer material that can be useful to someone else. Let your proposal value.
For now I want to build it with what I have.

In summary it is to make a rotor with a diameter of 10 1/2 ”, and 1 1/2 inches thick, with magnets of 2" x 3/4, 6 magnets per side?

Fortunately I have the proposed magnets
With a coil that I managed to operate with results that you have obtained turion, it would be very satisfactory

[alexelectric]

ok, it would be better to build the rotor vertically, and the round magnets which would be measured?

[alexelectric]

thanks turion

in one of your writing you propose
"Attached is a picture of the little rotor I am using now 1" x 1 "x 3/4" magnets on the rotor. Eight of them. "

Remember me the size of the rotor please
thanks for your proposals
we will continue moving forward

[alexelectric]

regards
I tested the multifilar coil at an engine speed of 2400 rpm, obtaining average results, I'm going to get an engine that gives me 2800 rpm to test it with the recommended speed

[alexelectric]

Thanks BroMikey for commenting, and contributing your experiences also that here in the forum there is proof of your experiences.
If I wait for the tour guide, how well he has been giving so many details and data, and given data and videos of his achievements.
If Turion already achieved something functional, why not replicate it?
how good BroMikey you liked the winding machine, I built it when I made several bedini motors, since first, I manually counted the wire length, manually wound,
until I told myself I am going to build a winder, I started and yawned several ideas, and so it came out, I bought a digital lap counter, I put a 12 volt cd motor on it, I also bought the speed control.
It is a handmade version but very functional, it allows me to make the coils faster.
It can be improved, but as one is more hurried to do the projects, leave one side, make it more decorated, but as the purpose is already fulfilled to ebobinate
Thanks BroMikey, Turion, SkyWatcher for being active in this project, and the other users also for your comments