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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by bistander View Post
    Do you ever read what you post?
    No I have not read ALL of the material, DID YOU?

    I can tell you this, "YOUR HONOR" that superconductor
    processing has evolved beyond the history you read, since 1987.

    The point is not about who is the most knowledgeable
    about "SUPERCONDUCTOR" designs for cost effective
    manufacturing trade offs but rather has anyone read
    or observed the experiments and writing of one Thane Heins
    who replicators claim they have followed exhaustively.

    I am not a superconductor scientist but if I was I would'nt
    be able to relay everything with a simple figure such as "90K"

    Can you be more specific? Do you have a source for a 1987
    design for these special conductors? That would be practical.


    Here is what I have done. I bought some silver plated wire
    also teflon insulation of solid copper that qualifies as G2 HTS wire.
    Last edited by BroMikey; 04-01-2016, 06:46 PM.

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  • bistander
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    Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
    In 1987, materials were discovered that exhibited superconducting properties at temperatures as high as 90 K. This class of materials was called High Temperature Superconductors or HTS. While this is still very cold, it was a significant breakthrough. These materials could now be cooled by liquid nitrogen which is much easier to work with, more readily available without supply issues and, most importantly, considerably cheaper than liquid helium.
    Do you ever read what you post?

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  • BroMikey
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    Reading the patent to understand coil construction.

    The REGENX coil and the BI-Toroid coils are 3X-5X longer
    than a conventional motor coil. This affects resistance
    and since we know that the goal is to store voltage
    by using a greater length of wire to lower losses 2g hts wire
    or copper conductors (Wire) plated with silver or nickel
    will lower resistance.

    Winding configurations also play a part to lower resistance.


    In comparison to the conventional coil design which employs large gauge windings with the aim of minimizing resistive losses within the coil (q.v.) the ReGen-X coil can use relatively small gauge wire, and this leads to many more turns being used in a ReGen-X coil than in a conventional coil. A consequence of this design characteristic is to raise the inductance of the coil so that above a certain frequency the current flow is delayed until TDC while the self-induced capacitance is increased. The high inductance, high impedance, high DC resistance variant of the ReGen-X coil produces a large repelling magnetic field and useful increases of kinetic energy and motive force into the system but they do not deliver much useable electrical energy because it is primarily consumed by the high DC resistance of the coil itself.
    [0101]
    The same “acceleration under load” effects can be achieved equally well by employing the bi-filar coils as previously described without requiring small gauge wire, or a large turns ratio. This IP variation provides large additions of positive motive force/kinetic energy into the system with useable electrical power being delivered to a load.

    For example, an inductor often acts as though it includes a parallel capacitor, because of its closely spaced windings. When a potential difference exists across the coil, wires lying adjacent to each other at different potentials are affected by each other's electric field. They act like the plates of a capacitor, and store charge. Any change in the voltage across the coil requires extra current to charge and discharge these small ‘capacitors’. When the voltage changes only slowly, as in low-frequency circuits, the extra current is usually negligible, but when the voltage changes quickly the extra current is larger and can be significant.

    The coil of the present invention operates at a higher frequency than conventional coils, with coils of higher inductance and, in some embodiments, employs parallel wound series connected bi-filar windings which increase coil impedance and self-induced capacitance by 200% or more.

    Connecting the bi-filar coil into a series wound coil increases the coil's self induced capacitance and changes the on-load characteristics (when operated above the minimum critical frequency) from a counter-electromotive-torque producing coil to a complementary-electromotive-torque producing coil which accelerates the system rather than decelerating it.
    Last edited by BroMikey; 04-01-2016, 08:39 AM.

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by Iamnuts View Post
    Nice to see Thane's working at 77k.
    For the book worms 77k relates to QUANTUM EFFICIENCIES
    This value being directly related to super conductor processes.
    Thane has not confirmed any of these facts for me other than
    Thane has all of details listed in his patents.
    Look at the second link for discussion about 77K


    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...,d.eWE&cad=rja


    https://books.google.com/books?id=CE...%2077k&f=false


    4 Permanent magnets; M1, M2, M3, m4
    4 Type II High Temperature Superconducting Wire and
    Coils C1, C2, C3, C4

    As the inner coil C1 and C2, rotates around magnets
    M1 and M2, a current is induced in the wire/coil.

    According to Lenz’s Law an electromagnetic force is
    produced around the wire/coil which acts to stop the
    rotating action as shown in Figure 1.0 by Force 1 and
    Force 2 (The Conservation of Energy).

    The inner coil C1 and C2, which is surrounded by
    magnets M1 and M2, dictates the magnitude and
    direction of current flow, which in turn is determines
    by faraday’s Law;
    Last edited by BroMikey; 04-01-2016, 07:30 AM.

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  • bistander
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    Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
    What is 77,000 for? $$$???
    I think he meant 77K.

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by Iamnuts View Post
    Nice to see Thane's working at 77k.
    What is 77,000 for? $$$???

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  • Iamnuts
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    Nice to see Thane's working at 77k.

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  • BroMikey
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    It is also important to note that the direct drive wind turbine
    axial motor/generators not only use advanced core materials
    but use the G2 HTS Motor WIre.

    Here is the beginning for required reading to get started
    with any practical application.

    For those of you who have followed Thane Heins know that
    in at least one of his presentations Thane used a technician
    for a demonstration to show a corporation some progress.

    In the video the operator had some powerful heating of
    the REGENX coils. The wire coils are made from HTS A.K.A.
    HIGH TEMP SUPERCONDUCTOR materials. During this episode
    a wide range of functions were shown, such as regen/braking
    and other configurations for that review.

    HIGH TEMP wire that is a SUPERCONDUCTING material has
    been offered in the past in the from of copper wire plated
    with silver then a teflon coating.

    Other forms that are less expensive have emerged.

    Look back in the record in Thanes videos and you will
    see his coils were wound with teflon insulated wire.

    Thane has not come out and written all of the details
    on anyone persons forehead thereby given away years
    of work in a single expose, instead has sprinkled many
    bread crumbs for those of us who follow in his foot steps.

    Many other variations exist on out into infinity but unless
    a single experiment can be thoroughly researched/ properly
    following direction all of the other unlimited possibilities
    will probably not be realized either.




    http://
    www.superpower-inc.com/system/files/2011_0225+Barcelona+Wind+Seminar_Selva.pdf



    http://www.superpower-inc.com/content/hts-
    materials-technology



    AMSC





    Last edited by BroMikey; 03-31-2016, 08:18 PM.

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  • BroMikey
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    I would like to point out that I am a beginner in the
    regenx work of Thane Heins. Also that no one has ever
    pointed out an important detail needed to replicate
    Thanes coils.

    This shows me how little effort has been put forth
    by what we call serious experimenters.

    First a picture of type 2 HTS wire called for by the
    construction details and secondly the words from the patent.

    Hopefully this can show us why all of the test data offered
    by those who claim adept status in the art continue to
    confirm only failing results.

    This information is critical and equal to the type of core
    materials used to produce the effects.

    If anyone has a source for 2G HTS wire we could all get
    to work with the proper stuff. Bifilars wound parallel
    connected series is no problem but let's use the right wire.





    Because Type II High Temperature Superconducting Wire/Coils
    are employed there is no resistance in the wire and no loss of
    output due to the windings resistance in the exterior coils.

    Image 2 details what magnitudes and directions of torques are
    produced within the generator.

    The calculations show that by changing either the magnetic
    field strength B, or the length of the outer coil L, o the length
    of the lever are 3 or 4, the complimentary toque produced at
    the outer coil can be greatly affected and utilized to negate
    not only the negative emf’s but resistance in the bearings
    and the wire if a conventional generator design is utilized,
    i.e., copper or silver wire.

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  • BroMikey
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    Thanks Christian

    Originally posted by lorinrandone View Post
    hello everyone
    my name is Cristian Alba, and I'm the same of the thread >>Magnet Motor revelation< <. Today I bring my research on the effect commented on this thread. Few expenses, with common materials by hand of any people
    here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjoav6SwFvg and here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0_Z...ature=youtu.be
    please comment.
    Best regard.
    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjoav6SwFvg[/VIDEO]

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  • BroMikey
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    7 years ago Thane did these tests and these video's are
    no longer present on his channel.

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogLeKTlLy5E[/VIDEO]

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vX8Cxkrpqs[/VIDEO]

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpIdu1lWVW0[/VIDEO]

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q18eSaiKMyc[/VIDEO]

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WrzCRimtHc[/VIDEO]

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WrzCRimtHc[/VIDEO]

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  • BroMikey
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    Here is another example of AUL Acceleration Under Load
    using a monopole Motor and high impedance Generator
    coils. Whenever we have made Bedini coils following
    instructions we use a set length of 130 feet of twisted
    wire and if the generator coil length instruction is
    followed, you end up with a much bigger coil. It dawned
    on me that John bedini has been Accelerating his monopoles
    under loaded conditions using the high impedance generator
    coils, just like we see with the Thane Heins approach.

    It is my belief that John Bedini explains things differently
    than does Thane Heins but both are operating the same
    principle to extra energy.

    If anyone remembers how that the generator coils were
    much longer and thinner wire. This means that the more
    power that is extracted (To a Point) from the generator coils
    the more the rotor accelerates and the more energy is
    generated for output. It's been right under our noses
    all of the time and because very few people followed through
    with adding generator coils, little information is available
    on the similar effects Thane is reporting.

    Notice the 3 generator coils in the video.









    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOoKoKqeJsM[/VIDEO]
    Last edited by BroMikey; 02-14-2016, 01:24 AM.

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  • BroMikey
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    Testing for ReGenerative (ReGenX) acceleration using a wood
    rotor.


    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5cdhOmwofI[/VIDEO]

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  • BroMikey
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    In Thane Heins Patents he cites prior art and also uses the
    name of a device that was another man's name for using
    lenz law to assist rotor torque.

    "THE INFINITY MOTOR" remember?

    Again a motor that AUL Accelerates Under Load.

    His name is Mark Wesling Mark: weslingm@msn.com


    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-jI8ecXniE[/VIDEO]


    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAXQBpuLu68[/VIDEO]


    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrbEtXCsXiw[/VIDEO]
    Last edited by BroMikey; 02-07-2016, 02:08 AM.

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  • BroMikey
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    next is a world renowned entry right after Peter's (Dr. Peter L.)
    This entry reinforces the assumption that Thane Heins has made
    a mistake in his experiments and is not infact getting any excess
    power. In other words Thane is fooling himself.

    Calling him an incapable EE. Now who is the fool?

    Perpetual Motion Claim — If It's a Hoax, It's a Good One



    Nothing more than a hysteresis brake

    • On Feb. 6, 2008, DMBoss wrote:
    • Quote from: blindsangamon on Today at 02:45:23 AM
    • It appears that the Perepiteia Motor is nothing more than a
      hysteresis brake. Placing the steel rods (wound by coils) near the
      spinning magnets induces alternating magnetic flux within the
      rods, the resulting magnetic hysteresis causes drag on the rotating
      disk, and heat losses within the steel rods. Shorting out the coils
      effectively shields the steel rods from the disk's magnetic field,
      eliminating the hysteresis drag. This causes the motor to speed
      up - but not as much as it would if the steel rods were removed
      completely.

    • BUSTED!

    • Hi:
    • blindsangamon is correct. This is a common phenomenon
      regards "generators", but one often not commonly known about
      if you are not working with AC motors and generators all the
      time. So the professor at MIT may not have this practical
      engineering savvy to identify the issues at first glance.
    • An hysteresis brake is one way to describe the apparently
      anomalous increase in speed when you short the generator coils.
      What EVERY ferromagnetic core does when exposed to varying
      magnetic fields is to have it's domains rock or flip direction in
      accord with the magnetic field changes impinging on them.
    • This consumes power in the "friction" between domains as they
      sort of scrape past each other. It results in the material heating
      up. In addition to this hystersis "loss" is an eddy current effect
      within bulk steel from the very same time varying magnetic fields,
      also making heating of the core. These two effects combined are
      commonly termed "core loss".
    • Core loss produces a reaction torque in a generator, in that the
      domain "friction" resists their aligning with the external field - causing
      more drag torque. Eddy currents make magnetic fields which oppose
      the fields making the eddy currents too, making more drag torque.
    • Now "core loss" in any ferromagnetic core material is directly
      proportional to the induction, B. Put another way the higher the
      delta flux density, the more core loss you get. (it is also
      proportional to the frequency, but let's assume a constant freq
      here, even though it is not at a constant one - it speeds up and
      slows down, again a neophyte mistake - you must measure things
      here at common speeds/freqs to make comparisons accurately)
    • And the induction, B is then what produces the coil voltage
      via Faraday/Lenz laws. That is voltage is the time derivative of
      delta flux. So people, when you short a generator coil and it's
      voltage drops to near zero, you can be certain that the delta B
      within the coil's core is also near zero!
    • So if you started with a delta B of say 1,000 gauss at no load
      on the coils, and your core material produces say 15 watts of core
      loss per pound of core (solid steel is in this ballpark, which is why
      we laminate special steels for transformers which takes the core
      loss down to about 2 watts per pound) then you'd have some
      serious drag torque experienced by the drive motor with coils
      open circuit.
    • Now if you short the coils and drop the delta B down to say
      10 gauss, you have REDUCED the core loss by a factor of
      1000/10=100 times less core loss when shorted than when
      open circuited!
    • This means 100 times less drag torque felt by the drive motor!
      (therefore the common shaft speeds up when coils are shorted,
      duhhhh)

      [*]This is amateur hour gone mad - both in the videos and mostly
      in these lists! Which does nothing but hurt the cause of getting
      O/U to the masses in my view, as it simply reinforces to the
      powers that be in the scientific community that it is a bunch
      of flakes and idiots making these claims!

    • Now I will also say, that heavily loading certain geometry of
      generator, can produce some gain. I have several examples on the
      bench which do. But they are proprietary and I don't care to share
      this with lists. BUT you have to do proper energy/power balances to
      measure this gain. And you have to endeavor to reduce core losses
      to a minimum and account for core loss change when you heavily load
      the coils too.
    • I have one which gets a gain in excess of the entire core loss value,
      both eddy and hysteresis - therefore the gain cannot be from this
      artifact that plagues all coil/core systems. But it is a modest gain,
      and yes the rotor does want to speed up. But you have to manage
      this speed, and measure the loaded and unloaded condition at the
      same shaft speed, because friction and windage change too when
      speed changes.
    • Then you have to measure True power at the shaft input via
      torque sensing and speed, against True output power, including friction,
      core loss, coil heating and direct electrical output for a complete
      energy/power
      balance. In fact there is an IEEE protocol for doing
      a complete power balance on motors and generators, which includes
      all these things.


      [*]This person did few if none of these things properly and is
      delusional about the apparent speed increasing meaning it is O/U.
      There could be a small amount of gain in his sloppy and amateurish
      system, but it is completely overriden by mundane, conventional
      effects as "blindsangamon" correctly points out.
    • Sorry for being so terse with you folks, but it is very annoying to
      watch so many people do harm to the cause by spouting off without
      really having a grasp of conventional ElectroMagnetics. Both amateur's
      like in these videos, and indeed a large percentage of the armchair
      critics populating these lists! Do your homework before putting foot
      in mouth!

    • There's a few rational voices out there, blindsangamon being one,
      and most of you then deride these voices with nonsense and blind
      faith!
    • here's a simplified protocol for measuring a generator's complete
      power balance:
    • Pick or know the optimal final speed of the system. Use only this
      shaft speed for all measurements.
    • 1 Measure all parameters in a generator "no load" condition
      including: 2 Friction alone, meaning with no magnets or mag fields
      acting on the cores. 3 Then include the mag fields and measure the
      input drag power (torque times angular velocity).
    • The difference between 3 minus 2 is the core loss at no load.
    • 4 Measure the DC resistance of all coils as they would be connected
      in a loaded condition (i.e. series or parallel).
    • 5 Load the generator at the same speed as the no load tests.
    • 6 measure input power via torque times speed.
      (Newton-meters times RPM times 0.1047 = shaft power in
      watts)
    • 7 measure True output electrical power. Not with
      DMM's. but with appropriate True Power meters or analyzers.
    • 8 measure coil current, and calculate coil's "Joule heating"
      via I^2R.
    • 9 measure and compare coil voltage compared to no load
      voltage for a ratio with which to discount core loss.
    • Then take the loaded input shaft power in watts as INPUT
      to system.
    • Against this Input, you add the following:
    • a electrical output in watts
    • b friction in watts
    • c core loss via no load core loss times the voltage drop ratio
      (so if no load core loss were 37 watts, and no load voltage was
      125V and loaded voltage is 83V, then the ratio is 0.664. Multiply
      0.664 times no load core loss of 37 watts to equal 24.57 watts
      output core loss)
    • d coil heating via I^2R
    • Add up item a through d for the total system OUTPUT.
    • Now divide Output by Input for your COP. (Coefficient of
      Performance)
    • Note friction, core loss and coil heat are legitimate outputs....
      they heat the room! Useful output is an arbitrary distinction based
      on subjective criteria. If you want shaft power then heat is not
      useful. If however you want a heater, then shaft power is not
      useful! So to know in the absolute sense if a thing is over unity
      or not, you have to account for ALL outputs in a balance sheet.
    • That's another pet peeve of mine - those who dismiss everything
      they deem as "not useful"! Now suppose you had a system which
      routinely produces 200% more heat output in coil heating and core
      heating while it turns a shaft as in some newfangled motor. The
      shaft power COP is only 35%, but overall the system is 200% gainful.
      These persons I refer to would dismiss this as not being useful
      because the shaft power is under unity!
    • When in fact a home heating system would require a heat
      exchange mechanism to get heat from your machine to the air,
      thus it requires a pump - moving air or water or both. So you could
      make "use" of both the excess heating and the shaft power from
      said system!
    • My point is at these early stages it is imperative that you
      measure all aspects even if you may "think" they aren't useful.
      For complete energy balances and because overunity may not
      come in the form you wish it to!
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