7 years ago Thane started testing with 2 MOT
(Microwave Oven Transformers) one coil being 100 turns
of 14awg wire and the other he calls a high voltage coil.
In later work he calls normal hand wound coils high voltage
coils since the wire selected is a small gauge wire that is very
long sometimes 1000's of feet long.
I like these video's because this was one of his beginning
video's and shows me how to get started with a few simple
tests.
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaf9v0K-rZw[/VIDEO]
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yes, I agree, you are not alone, these others you talk aboutOriginally posted by TurionBroMikey,
You should understand.
I LUCKED into something with the 3BGS setup.
But then I think about how important it is that some of this stuff get out there. And the necessity of that is way bigger than any one of us.
Dave
have great gifts and are given to help. Their answers are way over
my head in most cases. It takes money to do anything but to
me money is the cheapest thing you and I will ever have. If you
can learn something, that's much better than just mounds of
gold.
Keep up the good work. Oh yeah, one more thing before I go. You
state that your system is a product of luck and how others gave
to you to help your work on the project.
This gift is called a "PROJECT MANAGER" the project manager is the
grease in the wheels of progress, without him the ship sinks.
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Exactly, you don't need much recirculated energy to keep
that battery up with all of the energy per stage. I can see
it getting clearer. You know what I think?
I think that anyone (such as yourself) who has given themselves
to motor gen setups, for any length of time will have their own
explanation about why but in the end we will see some common
denominators. Like longer coil winds and high impedance values
that facilitate/assist rotor torque when loaded at the proper
resistance values for optimum results.
I like listening to you in video and I have been thinking about
using some of these small magnets to check out an idea I have.
As you know we are building a MadMack rotor right now so other
magnet rotor trials will come in time, yet that doesn't stop me from
seeing clear.
The added 3 battery splitting the positive is a nice added feature
for these motor gen systems and I would love to try one with
a cordless drill motor and some small 3.5vdc Li-Ion batteries or
some other lead acid batteries I have rated at 5ah.
People should go with what they have and get themselves stirred
up, like you have been doing for the past decades. In the end is
like you say, the experimenters getting their hands dirty will get
all of the honey. Look at Thane.
I know how people view Thane, like he is some sort of simple Simon
parroting robot with monotone voice and mechanical limbs, i see the
way he comes off. Hey that is what he knows we need, we don't
need a rookie trying to make a name by dazzling displays of deliberate
confusion, Thane is right on with his method of teaching.
And so are you Dave, I don't detect an oz of selfish arrogance in
your delivery either, Marc B. same same. People may misinterpret
a message in the video form as heady only because they are and
this is what they expect others to do. You are a leader by example
or not one at all.
I am a good judge of character. Look at Gerard he can be a pain
to listen to but he still means well, trying to help and this can be
seen by those who look.
Now back to your beginnings. I picked that beginning video because
many will identify with it. Sure it was only one step in the evolution of
your designs. I think they all are worth repeating as a means to
get those on board who desire a system.
How many designs are there on youtube or the web with a DC brush
motor powering a rotor full of nice neo's right past some hand wound
coils? My My, literally hundreds. The people are advancing the true
science, they are tired of the tricks and fakes.
Your generator has super magnets, big rotors, nice coils all powered by
a tiny scooter motor, that should be an expected norm for a serious
experimenter, such as yourself. That's not to much to ask, and when
the rotor and bearings are mounted the fun begins.
I can't wait to try it in the future. Thane and guys like you have me
so cranked up that I can taste the success already. It's guys like you
Dave that inspire the majority. I am looking forward to greater things
from your new advanced rig.
The other guy helping you makes your team a winner too.
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Hello wantomakeOriginally posted by wantomake View PostBromikey,
Very interesting thread dude.
The only other material you will find to look at is THANE'S BiTT and
I am sure you know that this is a transformer. Look for the 90
degree phase shift that ia part of Engineering calculations
called power factor.
Reactive power is what we want.
Okay let me speak to everyone now. The chatter about BASIC COILS
and Free Energy Coils coming from the young boys is almost funny.
In one example the posing authority on running motors as generators
says that Thane has a small brain because his runs in phase on current
to voltage. Then later comes back and changes what he said stating
that the phase shift is an important finding of his when all of these
roads have been crossed long ago.
Yes what Thane is doing makes sense, yes Dave you are right to use
a conventional motor as the prime mover. Yes, Yes, Yes!!!! Yes because
all conventional devices using a motor are already setup to do a job
whether it be an electric car or an electric mixer.
What kind of a clown thinks that men like THANE are stupid and that
he doesn't have a self sustaining device worth a penny? You got it
a hard head who is out to prove to the world his is better than anyone
has ever dreamed and stops at nothing to steal another man's
invention.
John Bedini said that 30 years ago and he was right then.
Thane can run electric vehicles at multiple COP'S just like Turion
has done with his machines. AUL or Acceleration Under Load is
the opposite of deceleration Under Load or DUL.
It's that simple.
Anyone wanting to run a Motor Generator into a great COP, talk
to him as he has a model for a few bucks that proves out the
entire Mo/Gen thing.
John Bedini did the same thing, he used a conventional motor in
his beginnings doing high COP's and later the motor and Generator
coils worked as one, but whenever high COP's were realized separate
generator coils were placed all around his motor. So basically he
built a motor coil that was wired up to recover energy easily and
then the larger generator coils populate the remaining area around
the motor.
Always 2 separate systems.
I have considered doing Turion's experiment first as an inexpensive
proof that higher than 1 COP's are easily reached.
Dave is the only one on this forum that knows what he is talking
about first hand and has the machines to prove it. Plus youtube's
a video of it working.
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbEZuRTFZN8[/VIDEO]
Thane is the same way.
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYOD8H63I28[/VIDEO]
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTH23w7p1OA[/VIDEO]
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Bromikey,
Very interesting thread dude.
I missed the boat totally when Thane Heins came out with this. I want to study the replication of this coil, this regenx coil to test on a setup I have being working on lately.
The bifilar parallel part I get, but is this connected as the Tesla pancake coil is or am I still missing the boat.
Or if you can direct me to the earliest thread on the replication of the coil would be great.
Thanks,
wantomake
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Originally posted by Bertoa View Post@BroMikey. Thanks for this great thread. It is exactly the theme I am exploring in my test setup. I choose for a linear motor/generator to make the process more clear. I follow your claim 2: Parallel wound, series connected bi-filar wound motor (and generator) coil. The change I made was to use an assembled 'rotor' magnet. Which means I glue'd 2 magnets in repulsion together. The effect this has at the generator and motor coil I have still to investigate. Till now i have to note that with the repulsion magnet, the resonator 'falls' in a stable 'high' resonance of 20Hz; at the same time the input current sinks with a third.
This video of today shows the behavior of the magnet and pickup coil.
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCP3gDmouKY[/VIDEO]
WOW, yes much more to gain. Thank You also and please post all of
your work here. I thought I was the only one who wants to push
strong magnets together in cancellation to flip their polarity with a
small input. I like your way very much
What I have been thinking is to use some NEO's (Like you did) AND
some RUBBER magnets AND some CERAMIC magnets to stack them
also using spacers, also using thin pieces for shields to push the
field around to the pushing pressure is on the verge of flipping
the polarity so I can use a small coil spike to TRIP the magnetic
FLIP that would instantly return to normal after the spike from the
coil collapse.
The idea came from JOHN BEDINI the koolest guy on the planet.
Show me more, I love it, this is the right way.
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@BroMikey. Thanks for this great thread. It is exactly the theme I am exploring in my test setup. I choose for a linear motor/generator to make the process more clear. I follow your claim 2: Parallel wound, series connected bi-filar wound motor (and generator) coil. The change I made was to use an assembled 'rotor' magnet. Which means I glue'd 2 magnets in repulsion together. The effect this has at the generator and motor coil I have still to investigate. Till now i have to note that with the repulsion magnet, the resonator 'falls' in a stable 'high' resonance of 20Hz; at the same time the input current sinks with a third.
This video of today shows the behavior of the magnet and pickup coil.
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCP3gDmouKY[/VIDEO]
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In this diagram are 2 systems that are over charging the battery
while accelerating under a load.
The meters show excess recovery. The PWM drive also is a flyback
or a recovery upon coil collapse circuitry. The ReGenX coils are
doing their job also but it is interesting to note that the motor
coils energies are being harvested at the same time the circuit
powers them.

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPMSbMsYri8[/VIDEO]
The ReGen-X DC EV Motor/Generator provides 100% continuous battery recharging capabilities in ALL 4 modes of operation from greater than 0 RPM in Motor Mode, Regenerative Acceleration Mode, Regenerative Braking Mode and KERS Mode - battery recharging while vehicle stopped. It can be added to ANY existing EV to increase vehicle performance, range and battery life while reducing battery weight, cost and recharge times.
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In this diagram I have shown the full setup as always for
your understanding on the subject. The diagram and the video
are the creation of a man we all know and have come to
respect for his practical applications.
Many content that other ways of harvesting energy can be
accomplished, this is one of the many tests to be done in
the evolution of our understanding of the BASIC COIL
functioning in both modes.
Here you will see one of the 6 generator coils wound to a
high impedance, acting as a motoring coil with the other
5 coils left to function as usual.
I think this might be the first step away from using high
impedance coils strictly for generating and yet be harvesting
energy from the motoring coil while it powers the vehicle.
You might think of the single motoring coil as a boost coil that
accelerates the EV from 55 mph on up to 70 MPH, a sort of
passing gear mode.
Again another practical application to attract the people who
need something that is more than speculation. In other words
the big money wants to know what it can do, not so much the
terminology of a new idea that only the inventor sees.
It works, so let's work it and from there improve it by adding
another dreamed up idea. Don't underestimate the power of the
dreamer.
Many people around the world have no idea what the setup in
in this video is, I do, I understand the man perfectly.
One motoring coil along side of the main EV DC motor and the
rest of the high impedance coils (5) are acting as ReGenX coils.
Watch the meter as the switches are thrown.

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxGPUZudVh8[/VIDEO]
Powering a Scooter
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Here is another design where Regen coil impedance is set to
supply power to a charging circuit to send power back to the drive
battery while the vehicle accelerates down the road as usual.
The normal operation of the DC drive motor is not effected by this
form of coil recovery system. Instead of shorting the GEN coils and
simply assisting the rotor by adding speed and power directly, this
design sends power back to the battery.
Luc has done us a great service by showing the effects of high
impedance coils from A-Z. A random drawing of lots for selecting
coil impedance not based of a wide range of variables might leave
us with conflicting data.
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MPdylI0Ec4[/VIDEO]
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This is fine for testing but ultimately the shortest distance at the exact
impedance to manifest the critical minimum effect will lower over all
losses for the end produce.
But we needed LUC'S learning tool to get us years into the future
on this project. Quick and painless adjustments to show that in
every case the phase delay is not the only consideration though it
is the primary one.
The system principles never change, just the way you choose to use
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Thanks MJOriginally posted by TurionIs that the before or after picture you posted?
A special thanks to LUC for his work, great progress.
Also included is a calculation. This is a very important subject
and will be easy to use with DC motors such as a scooter has.
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVFXSZzUNmE[/VIDEO]
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr3x0xTqM_k[/VIDEO]
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Hello Dog-oneOriginally posted by Dog-One View Post
I think the term Tesla used was capacity, not capacitance. There is a difference and it appears Thane has stumbled upon it possibly by accident.
Originally posted by Armagdn03 View PostEvery coil, no matter how it is wound has two intrinsic inverse or reciprocal properties. Inductive / current / magnetic.... and .... Capacitive / voltage / electric.
When a frequency of electric, magnetic or electromagnetic impinges on the coil, the two aspects will react in two different ways. High frequencies will greatly "affect" the capacitive nature of the coil, low frequencies will greatly affect the inductive nature of the coil. At one particular frequency (the fundamental) they meet in agreement. At this frequency they both have the same "resistance" or impedance" they meet in harmony, equality, about an axis of symmetry etc. This line of equilibrium, fulcrum or whatever you want to call it is where the two inverse qualities meet in the realm of time (frequency). IF the coil was simply let to resonate (imagine a tuning fork) it would resonate at this frequency.
Turns out there are other frequencies of interest too, but the most interesting one, the most basic one etc, falls at the fundamental, the others are all variations on this.
Figure out how the most simple systems act, react, what the significance of each is. Then you can apply. Think of the progression of Euclids Elements, how do we construct a working model.
Thank you for your correction and I will contemplate your entry.
I think it is important to keep things on a simple level and keep
reminding one another that there are many experimental setups
built by Thane. We need to make clear in easy terms what each
video is about.
Here is another setup, one of many of Thane heins using his same
stumbled upon delayed lenz effect produced using high impedance
coils.
This one is a good next video in a progression of Thane's work
running motors with generator coils together. In his other video's
you will mostly see Thane using a conventional motor in his test
bed that the shaft connects to a magnet rotor with generator coils
to recover energy.
In this video he has 3 homemade coils for motoring and 3 hand
wound high impedance generator coils that could be used as
substitute motorcycle engine. Or scooter that runs 50 MPH.
One set of 3 convention motoring coils and one set of 3 coils
that have more copper mass (3-10 ohms) producing a delay in CEMF.
The conventional yellow motor only serves as a load of rotating mass
just like the large shaft and flywheel does.
Let's all keep in mind that these demo's are not made to address
a PHD professor but rather business men who look for the practical
side of the innovation. These business men are highly intelligent
individuals who have 1000's of details on their minds while at work
and to expect them to understand the depths of inter-dimentional
physics or any number of other dazzling speculative phenomena
over coffee would be fool hearty.
People are all different and should work together, not try to out do
one another with their gifts, that is the mark of adolescence.
Besides, the effect is so simple that a grade school student can
understand it. It is the simple things that always confuse
those who feel they are wise beyond belief.
Now let me keep reminding everyone what this setup is not
1 It does not use generator coils the way normal regenerative
generator coils do.
2 It does not include other electronic switching recovery circuits.
3 It does not use the yellow motor as a prime mover.
These generator coils are simply being shorted out. This is the
grade school level device.

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Originally posted by BroMikey View PostTesla always spoke about coils having
capacitance but what most miss is that the fields Tesla operated
were not always electromagnetic.
I think the term Tesla used was capacity, not capacitance. There is a difference and it appears Thane has stumbled upon it possibly by accident.
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