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  • BroMikey
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    https://patents.google.com/patent/US20140111054A1/en

    Unless you can cover this material honestly you can not make any
    judgements whatsoever. All you have is teacher told me it is impossible.
    Well nothing is impossible my friends to them that believe they can
    do it. That ability was instilled into mankind, this is why it is so
    important to live in a free country. Free to believe against all odds
    and the tyranny. You have no understanding.

    You can not tell the difference between coils shows that. Shows you
    that this is out of your league. Maybe try golfing?

    REGENX NOTES
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...Lr38VoCPhoD7ea

    Last edited by BroMikey; 06-16-2019, 07:35 AM.

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  • BroMikey
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    Come on you guys think. I am working one of three principles that
    Thane is using and it works. The Tesla patent is correct you
    gentlemen are incorrect.

    To reach the break even point you need two gen coils that are big
    enough to produce. This means magnets bigger than pennies. The
    bigger the coil and the bigger magnets have little to no bearing on
    the drive motor input. What does that tell you?

    When Turion uses around a 300 watt input on his drive motor gets one
    coil working, it eases the burden slightly on the drive motor and at the
    same time generates enough power to run lights at 130v X 1.5 amps
    are you going to call him a dern liar? Shame on you all.

    When Thane shows his E-BIKE circuit in the video it produces or collects
    back more power than it is taking to run the drive circuit, are you calling
    him a fraud? Shame shame. I guess you are skeptics.

    When Turion runs his drive motor at 300 watts and now connects two
    coils that further reduce drive input and at the same time generates
    130v X 1.5amp X 2 =390watts are you calling his a bare faced dog
    and a cheat? Shame.

    And so on as we add coils that generate and lighten the drive motor
    requirements up to 130v X 1.5 amp X 10 coils = 1900watts -300watt.

    Any coil that has the ability to generate current without effecting
    the drive motor power input should turn every bodies head. That is
    just not possible with a standard generator coil.

    Why are you this blind?

    What because you can't do it? You are not nice people at all.

    Here is one process. Very high voltage coil acceleration Thane calls it.

    It works and needs improvement but works fine.




    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXEYEomvlsQ[/VIDEO]
    Last edited by BroMikey; 06-16-2019, 07:09 AM.

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  • Gestalt
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    Originally posted by bistander View Post
    Hi Doogy,

    I was around a few years ago and participated on the thread to which Gestalt refers and was/am a fan of Gestalt's test. I hope Gestalt doesn't mind if I give you my opinion on his post.

    Since 2007 Thane Heins has promoted his method of winding a coil (bifilar) which in certain circumstances causes a motor driven generator to speed up under load from its no-load speed accompanied by a slight reduction on motor input power. Thane called it "Regenerative Acceleration" or "RegenX". He spent many years demonstrating and preaching this but, to my knowledge, never demonstrated anything useful.

    It has been my contention and then demonstrated by Gestalt's test, that the the use of the bifilar coil does in fact cause the rotor to speed up under load, as claimed, in some cases. However, this does not represent any improvement in performance compared to a standard coil at load.

    The speed up at load is only apparent compared to the speed at no-load with the bifilar coil. The reason is because the bifilar coil adversely effects the no-load condition. In other words: it does NOT improve loaded performance, it deteriorates the no-load condition.

    Overall, it makes generator performance worse. It is only an illusion that there is an improvement.

    Apparently Thane has finally realized this and ended his pursuit of bifilar generator coils.

    Regards,

    bi
    That is correct. Excellent synoptic rewrite!

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  • bistander
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    Plain English

    Originally posted by Gestalt View Post
    Maybe Thane finally watched my video showing why multifilar has unintended consequences. I posted the following before here back in 2015, and hopefully my experimentation can save you some time going down this path.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfRxsC9yumQ

    The Regen acceleration is REAL and gives the illusion of increasing performance

    My theory as to what is occurring is as follows. The high voltage (~1.2kV) on the open bifilar config causes an electro-static current to flow between the windings causing a substantial open circuit back-EMF. Then when shorting the coil the high voltage goes to zero and the artificially induced electrostatic back-emf goes away. As load is added regular back-EMF from actual current in the windings occurs demonstrated by the increasing Pin.

    The novelty here is that an OPEN coil can cause unusual amounts of back-emf under HIGH VOLTAGE circumstances. This is clearly seen when doing a comparison of power input numbers when the coil is NOT bifilar, and there is no bifilar in proximity to the rotor. This is something Thane has never shown and why he is in error.
    Originally posted by Doogy2Shoes View Post
    please restate this in plain English
    Hi Doogy,

    I was around a few years ago and participated on the thread to which Gestalt refers and was/am a fan of Gestalt's test. I hope Gestalt doesn't mind if I give you my opinion on his post.

    Since 2007 Thane Heins has promoted his method of winding a coil (bifilar) which in certain circumstances causes a motor driven generator to speed up under load from its no-load speed accompanied by a slight reduction on motor input power. Thane called it "Regenerative Acceleration" or "RegenX". He spent many years demonstrating and preaching this but, to my knowledge, never demonstrated anything useful.

    It has been my contention and then demonstrated by Gestalt's test, that the the use of the bifilar coil does in fact cause the rotor to speed up under load, as claimed, in some cases. However, this does not represent any improvement in performance compared to a standard coil at load.

    The speed up at load is only apparent compared to the speed at no-load with the bifilar coil. The reason is because the bifilar coil adversely effects the no-load condition. In other words: it does NOT improve loaded performance, it deteriorates the no-load condition.

    Overall, it makes generator performance worse. It is only an illusion that there is an improvement.

    Apparently Thane has finally realized this and ended his pursuit of bifilar generator coils.

    Regards,

    bi

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by Gestalt View Post
    Maybe Thane finally watched my video showing why multifilar has unintended consequences. I posted the following before here back in 2015, and hopefully my experimentation can save you some time going down this path.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfRxsC9yumQ

    The Regen acceleration is REAL and gives the illusion of increasing performance

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  • BroMikey
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    Unlike most of you Thane has produced regenerative acceleration
    many different ways and since he has chosen a path to success for
    the EV means he can only spread himself so thin.

    That leaves us at a fork in the road. Electronics fail quite often very
    rapidly so I would rather pursue the innovation that Turion has shown.

    Encoder wheels and high priced digital circuitry needing replacements
    every so many months or years is a small price to pay for a free ride
    to work yet I would rather go for a 20 year target. The Turion machine
    ladies and gentlemen is simple and effective.

    Let's put it another way. Turion's 300 watts in and 1200 watts out plus
    3 battery recovery would all easily fit into an E-BIKE with 1000watts
    of energy available to conventional dc motor, just pull the GENERATOR
    BOX behind on a tiny bike trailer. And that is wasting all the mechanical
    from his box whatever he calls it. Maybe we should name Turion's
    generator to be more clear.

    Turion's speed up genny? We can't call it regenX

    Just a little joke. How about Turion's basic FREE ENERGY MACHINE?
    Basic device? Naw, speed up under load box?

    Naw. How about............ let me think.




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  • BroMikey
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    Your 60 magnet rotor should have been a 200 magnet rotor, that is
    where you made your mistake. If you had the proper number of
    magnets (for you) then I would know you were a scientist of undeniable
    renowned.

    Those 60 penny size magnets glued to a board shows willful defiance
    to the the inventor because your replication is a disaster.

    When you get more grown up and are ready to listen I will be more than
    happy to explain where you and doggy-boy missed it. If you are here to
    learn, that is.

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by Gestalt View Post
    Maybe Thane finally watched my video showing why multifilar has unintended consequences. I posted the following before here back in 2015, and hopefully my experimentation can save you some time going down this path.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfRxsC9yumQ

    The Regen acceleration is REAL and gives the illusion of increasing performance

    My theory as to what is occurring is as follows. The high voltage (~1.2kV) on the open bifilar config causes an electro-static current to flow between the windings causing a substantial open circuit back-EMF. Then when shorting the coil the high voltage goes to zero and the artificially induced electrostatic back-emf goes away. As load is added regular back-EMF from actual current in the windings occurs demonstrated by the increasing Pin.

    The novelty here is that an OPEN coil can cause unusual amounts of back-emf under HIGH VOLTAGE circumstances. This is clearly seen when doing a comparison of power input numbers when the coil is NOT bifilar, and there is no bifilar in proximity to the rotor. This is something Thane has never shown and why he is in error.
    Like Matt said years ago and he is right. Sorry Charlie

    Originally posted by Matthew Jones View Post
    Yep I knew it. You can't show a thing. You learned nothing. Your so little your TINY.



    There is no need to defend yourself against this guy. He has no clue what your talking about. He has never even used a multimeter let alone built or replicated anything that he lays opinions on. He's a tiny little man with very small mind.

    Matt

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  • Doogy2Shoes
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    Originally posted by Gestalt View Post
    Maybe Thane finally watched my video showing why multifilar has unintended consequences. I posted the following before here back in 2015, and hopefully my experimentation can save you some time going down this path.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfRxsC9yumQ

    The Regen acceleration is REAL and gives the illusion of increasing performance

    My theory as to what is occurring is as follows. The high voltage (~1.2kV) on the open bifilar config causes an electro-static current to flow between the windings causing a substantial open circuit back-EMF. Then when shorting the coil the high voltage goes to zero and the artificially induced electrostatic back-emf goes away. As load is added regular back-EMF from actual current in the windings occurs demonstrated by the increasing Pin.

    The novelty here is that an OPEN coil can cause unusual amounts of back-emf under HIGH VOLTAGE circumstances. This is clearly seen when doing a comparison of power input numbers when the coil is NOT bifilar, and there is no bifilar in proximity to the rotor. This is something Thane has never shown and why he is in error.
    please restate this in plain English

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  • Gestalt
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    Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
    So it seems like Thane has abandoned the multi-filar coil work as set forth by Tesla.
    Maybe Thane finally watched my video showing why multifilar has unintended consequences. I posted the following before here back in 2015, and hopefully my experimentation can save you some time going down this path.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfRxsC9yumQ

    The Regen acceleration is REAL and gives the illusion of increasing performance

    My theory as to what is occurring is as follows. The high voltage (~1.2kV) on the open bifilar config causes an electro-static current to flow between the windings causing a substantial open circuit back-EMF. Then when shorting the coil the high voltage goes to zero and the artificially induced electrostatic back-emf goes away. As load is added regular back-EMF from actual current in the windings occurs demonstrated by the increasing Pin.

    The novelty here is that an OPEN coil can cause unusual amounts of back-emf under HIGH VOLTAGE circumstances. This is clearly seen when doing a comparison of power input numbers when the coil is NOT bifilar, and there is no bifilar in proximity to the rotor. This is something Thane has never shown and why he is in error.
    Last edited by Gestalt; 06-15-2019, 11:14 AM.

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  • BroMikey
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    So it seems like Thane has abandoned the multi-filar coil work as set
    forth by Tesla in favor of pcb computerized motor switching he calls
    Regen-Xtra using a single winding. Thane calling his motor a stepper
    motor. Any stepper motor should work then if true. The plastic see
    through stepper motor is for dramatic demonstration seminars.

    Personally I think staying with the multi-filar coil design has great
    potential for everyone and has not been exhaustively explored.

    Without digital circuits of any kind multifilar coils alongside magnetic
    cancellation will revolutionize the stand alone home generator. I for
    one do not consider digital circuit to be the only answer. Cars may
    not be a good goal for our device.

    The one thing I learned from Thane is the "C" core design yet the
    rest of his work is dead for me as he is only collecting coil flyback
    by digital means with a single winding. I am sure it is a much more
    compact unit not requiring large windings making it perfect for EV

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  • BroMikey
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    Read very carefully

    Thane is now getting 100 amps of intermittent current from a single
    coil connected in parallel (not series) using 18awg wire. This would
    require the HTS 2G Magnet wire and the computerized circuitry
    to toggle the collapsing fields back to the battery while in motor
    operation.

    However in Thane recent ebike video's he states that each coil or 2
    parallel wound 18awg wire target output is 5 amps and 10 amps for
    a few minutes or intermittent I am assuming. The 100 amp is a typo
    and should read 10 amps.





    Last edited by BroMikey; 06-15-2019, 10:19 AM.

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  • BroMikey
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    Amorphous cores from ribbon rpm = 3500-4000

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    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQyMdRMERaQ[/VIDEO]

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