Oscillating Reed Switch Pulse Motor.

[shylo]

Hi Allen, the quotes from Ossie ,are they recent or is this from the past?
The reason I ask, is because this is very similar to what I'm seeing with my test rig.
But my switches are mechanical, I don't use reeds (I don't have any).
I'm sure if I could switch more I could collect more.
Thanks for posting.
artv

[Allen Burgess]

Biasing magnet.

Quote from Ossie Callanan:

"Using a very small and weak magnet, you can now control and adjust the reed switch. This allows you to adjust the switching so that the circuit oscillates continuously but still powers the passing rotor magnet".

Rather then reposition the Reed switch and coil as I do, Ossie adjusts the Reed switch and controls the oscillation with a weak biasing magnet pictured below. Ossie reports a COP>10, collecting oscillating Reed switch radient backspike power in his charge batteries!

[Allen Burgess]

Protecting the SPDT Reed switch.

Below we see the "Simple Motor" schematic for the the Reed switch transistor motor:

This version uses a PNP transistor. The Reed switch triggers the PNP Darlinton transistor at the base and the switch is protected with a ZNR surge absorber. The SPDT Reed switch would require two ZNR surge absorbers, one between the input contact and each output contact, both connected to each base of the two PNP Darlington transistors. The circuit is also protected from high voltage power coil backspike by a tiny ceramic capacitor across the power coil electrodes. Two surge absorbers for the SPDT Reed switch and two tiny ceramic capacitors , one for each power coil would be enough to protect the Reed switch and the transistors. Ossie says the Reed switch oscillates 20 to 50 times per magnet pass! Ossie includes a diode and a charge battery in his oscillator circuit. This wouldn't be hard to include!

The conceptualized SPDT circuit is similar to Ossie Callanan's circuit above, because the oscillating Reed switch is triggering the transistor bases; But it's very different because the SPDT Reed switch would be running twin reciprocating power coils. This is a totally new concept, heretofore never attempted nor succeeded at!

[Allen Burgess]

Ossie Callanan.

Quote from Ossie Callanan:

"As you can see, the trick is to place the reed switch so that it runs along the length of the solenoid coil and so it's located in the coil's magnetic field. This couples the coil's magnetic field to the reed switch as well as the magnetic field of the passing rotor magnet. This provides a magnetic feedback and turns the reed switch into an oscillator. So when the magnet passes the reed oscillates with the coil's field and causes very many pulses, typically 20 to 50 pulses per magnet pass. Amazingly, unlike the clamping diodes in the SSG, this is not wasteful. This reed switch oscillation actually reduces the input current. Instead of the reed remaining closed for the whole of the pulse duration, it switches on and off and so, less input power is drawn from the driving battery. I run the motor so that when the coil is energised, the magnet is attracted to the coil. Here is a trace across the charging battery":

[Allen Burgess]

SPDT Reed Switch.

This SPDT Reed switch has a normally closed position, unlike the SPST Radio Shack Reed switch which is simply normally open. This SPDT is very easy to burn out if you're not extremely careful. It's on all the time on one side untill the south pole of a magnet disengages it. I burned a handful of these switches up in no time before I realized what I was doing wrong. The contact will weld shut in short order if it's allowed to act as a continuous conductor with 12 volts of input power for any length of time.

This switch can run the twin coil magnet motor at a reasonable speed if positioned away from the power coil. A variable resistor, or potentiometer can be installed between the battery and the switch to help protect the contacts. Probably best to give the twin reciprocating power coil and magnet rotor a test run in the conventional mode before trying the high speed coil attachment oscillator configuration.

[Allen Burgess]

SPDT Reed switch schematic.

Look at the SPDT schematic below. There's one input and two outputs. Instead of turning off, this switch directs current to a seperate load in the otherwise "Off Position". Two reciprocating power coils would allow us to widen the diameter of the magnet rotor. The larger rotor would generate additional magnetic flux. Both coils would be hot wired through this switch. A hot wire would need to travel between the SPDT Reed switch second contact and the second coil. Both coils would share the same battery and negative electrode. Positioning of the two coils would need to be adeptly controlled to maximize precision timing and performance. This "Oscillating Reciprocator" version should really sizzle with the frictionless bismuth axle!

[Allen Burgess]

SPDT Reed switch video.

SPDT Reed switch demonstration video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIciePaDY4U

10x Reed Glass Magnetic Switches N/O N/C SPDT 300DC 10W normally open closed b8

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[Allen Burgess]

(SPDT) twin power coil "Reciprocating Oscillator":

A "Single Pole Double Throw" (SPDT) Reed switch can handle that job for a "Twin Reciprocating Power Coil Oscillator":

[Allen Burgess]

DPDT Reed relay.

You can see how a DPDT relay can energize a second load in what would ordinarily be the "Off Position" for the single pole switch in the schematic below:

The DPDT relay could energize a second power coil, instead of just shutting off, to add a reciprocating pulse to the motor rotor, doubling the torque!

[Allen Burgess]

DPDT Reed Switch.

Yeah I suppose that’s right...

I have always thought that of those gravity wheels, if someone did ever get one to work, it would be something to look at, but if any power was ever attempted to be derived from it, then it would simply stop.

Back to the reed switch device, I was thinking to myself that there is space on the opposite side of the coil for a second coil, wired in reverse polarity to the first. Which may add to the overall system? And if that wasn’t feasible then I thought at least a secondary reed switch(es) could be installed to provide additional switching for something.

The additional reed switch could be used for example to switch capacitors from series to parallel or other things. Or for example, switch the main coil from bifilar series connected to bifilar parallel connected, back and forth. Congratulations on

This would provide parametric variation of both the inductance of the coil and the self-capacity of the coil, but this would also alter the resonant frequency of the coil. It would be complicated to work out but that’s experimentation…

Not sure if anyone has ever tried that?

@Sputins,

I initiated an entire thread on this subject on the Overunity site. Rather then two Reed Switchs, one DPDT Reed switch may be able to do the same job. Congratulations on more incisive thinking!

Look at this "Hybrid Reed Bedini" schematic below:

[Sputins]

@Sputins,

When the magnet rotor RPM reaches the self resonating frequency of the bifilar power coil, the unit appears to no longer require input. The problem with the "Reed Oscillator" in resonance is the same as with all the other various tank circuits; Any attempt to harness output alters the resonance and kills the oscillation! What we're left with is perhaps a unique "Kinetic Sculpture", running at close to unity, with no real practical application. After that, a customary Pi/Po equilibrium would follow.l

[Allen Burgess]

Resonance.

@Sputins,

When the magnet rotor RPM reaches the self resonating frequency of the bifilar power coil, the unit appears to no longer require input. The problem with the "Reed Oscillator" in resonance is the same as with all the other various tank circuits; Any attempt to harness output alters the resonance and kills the oscillation! What we're left with is perhaps a unique "Kinetic Sculpture", running at close to unity, with no real practical application. After that, a customary Pi/Po equilibrium would follow.l

[Allen Burgess]

Bifilar resonance.

Your analysis is spot on!

[Matthew Jones]

No Carroll we're on his permanent ignore list now. He can't read us anymore.

At some point the switching speed of the reed switch (and the rotational speed of the magnet) might begin to approach the coils self- resonant frequency. The speed of the magnet would rapidly increase. As resonance is achieved the magnet speed would be spinning at its maximum as would the discharge flux from the coil also be at its highest potential.

At this point one might see something odd (OU)? beginning to emerge?

NO Mr Sputins, its not self resonants, its self generating. "The Magnet is the motor". Find that quote and you'll find your answer. Good luck.

Matt

[citfta]

The spinner design now contains close to thirty or more magnets and two levitators, but so far, nothing's spinning outside the "protective housing". The rotor's not pushing the additional encumbrance of an axle like Matthew Jones's (Half Fast) retrograde version. The scam artist produced a "Big Nurse Quack Test".

Allen,

Every time you badmouth Matt or Dave you are making yourself look like an even bigger idiot. Both of those guys have built more projects than you could even think of. And Matt is recognized by very many people on this forum as an excellent designer and builder. You of course will probably go right on with your ridiculous rants against Matt. But each time you do more and more people will write you off as a clown who doesn't have a clue what he is talking about.

You really do need to get help.