Oscillating Reed Switch Pulse Motor.

[Sputins]

Bi Axle

I'm not interested in provoking or entertaining conflicts.

Fire, meet Gasoline.. is a good analogy for you two..

Anyway, bismuth as an axle for the magnet, is just an idea and I figure that's what the forum is about, sharing ideas and stuff, not bickering..

I remains to be seen if the idea actually works, or partly works which can be developed into something that does work. If so, well then that's great.

I have the diametrically magnetized magnet, (from a previous experiment) and also some Bismuth metal and rod. So I'll lathe up some of the Bi rod to fit inside the magnets.


In my mind, the magnet may only start float around the Bi axle once the magnet is spinning at speed. So the Bi axle may yet need bearings and or additional surrounding of Bi metal or other methods that encourage the magnet to start floating which allow it to begin to rotate at an outrageous speed.

[Matthew Jones]

All it would take to levitate the neo tube rotor if the axle alone was too weak, would be to position a block of bismuth under the rotor.

The 2nd most problem here is you can't prove that will work, bismuth that is you keep your stuff in a storage bin. The first problem is you are a sick neurotic personality disorder and you need help. You need lithium and much re-education on how to interact with people. This won't be let go. You need help.

[Allen Burgess]

Go on allen with small "a" take the test, then you can just blame it on mental illness. .

@Matthew Jones,

QUACK!

[Allen Burgess]

Bismuth axle.

All it would take to levitate the neo tube rotor if the axle alone was too weak, would be to position a block of bismuth under the rotor.

[Matthew Jones]

@Matthew Jones,

Put me back on your ignore list you worthless crud!

Go on allen with small "a" take the test, then you can just blame it on mental illness. . I think you would like that but due to your illness I can no longer see fit to let you talk about me behind my back. You have to be corrected. Tolerating a mental illness is as bad as having one. Your sick my friend grow up
and do something about it.

[Allen Burgess]

You ever noticed how people disappear after you start talking this way. Your making up a story that is very far from the truth to make sure everyone but yourself looks like an idiot.
Here's a test for ya.

As long as you keep this up no one will replicate your project. As it is, if a person cannot get the results you expect you probably blame them for your misinformation. But thats OK people are seeing your behavior and walking away. Soon you will have no one. Get help, Get medication, grow up.

Matt

@Matthew Jones,

Put me back on your ignore list you worthless crud!

[Matthew Jones]

Matthew Jones stared building this motor and wound up with a set of bearings that were too large to run inside the "Protective Housing". What would happen if somthing dislodged on his version? I've gone to great lengths to stress the importance of safety with this motor due to the very high rotor speeds it attains. Matthew really started working stupid on me! The rotor and the bearings both need to be enclosed for safety.

You ever noticed how people disappear after you start talking this way. Your making up a story that is very far from the truth to make sure everyone but yourself looks like an idiot.
Here's a test for ya.

As long as you keep this up no one will replicate your project. As it is, if a person cannot get the results you expect you probably blame them for your misinformation. But thats OK people are seeing your behavior and walking away. Soon you will have no one. Get help, Get medication, grow up.

Matt

[Allen Burgess]

bismuth bushings.

ZLX Tech | Bismuth Target

Grade: 99.99%, 99.999%
Shape: round, square, or customized
Diameter: 1", 2", 3", 4", 5", 10" or larger
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Thickness: 1/8", 1/4", 1/2", 5mm, 10mm, 20mm...

This cinches it: Two 1" bismuth discs, with 5 mm holes in the center; One glued to each end of the axle to keep the neo tube centered.

This looks like a real winner Sputins! A bit costly, but well worth the investment for a permanent frictionless levitating bearing! Thanks for the "brilliant idea"!

[Allen Burgess]

bismuth repulsion video.

Good video demonstrating the repulsive behavior of a bismuth rod to neo magnets:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUoUSz-hD8A

[Allen Burgess]

long tube magnet.

Super Magnet Man

Here's a long thin diametric neo tube magnet that has a better chance to levitate on the bismuth rod:

N45SH. 0.50" (12.7mm) OD x 0.25" (6.35mm) ID x 3" (76.2mm) long, magnetized across the diameter.

6 mm = 15/64". The tube ID is 1/4". That thickness would leave 1/64", or 1/128" all around. Maybe enough to seperate! That would require a 4" rod, and a larger 3 1/2" PVC coupling.

A 5 mm rod would be 13/64". This would leave 3/64" or 3/128" all around inside the 1/4". I think tight enough! A hundred millimeters is 3 15/16" long. 5 mm thick and 100 mm in length should work well with the 3" long 1/2" OD, 1/4" ID neo tube pictured below. All we need now is some bismuth ring disc bushings!

[Allen Burgess]

@Sputins,

By Jove Sputins; This really looks doable!

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[Allen Burgess]

Bismuth axle.

@Sputins,

Your idea of a bismuth axle to spin on the horizontal plane is sheer genius. It might help to reduce the diameter of the neo tube and increase it's length. On the vertical plane, (CobraKiller2000's) magnetically attracted overhead steel ball bearings could help suspend a neo tube over a bismuth block with a bismuth axle, combining all three of the approaches.

Bismuth bushings on each end of a bismuth axle would help keep the neo tube magnet rotor centered. Great idea!

[Allen Burgess]

Bismuth axle.

@Sputins,

Adding an upright bismuth axle rod like you described to the thick rectangular bismuth base (CobraKiller2000) demonstrates, would not only levitate the magnet rotor rings, but act as a frictionless positioner to help keep the rotor on station. This combination would certainly attain the "Highest State of the Art" for high speed spin bearing, if you got it to work. This kind of bearing could easily install inside a "Safty Housing", complying with our essential personal hazard protection criteria.

Adding a few steel washers to the base of the diametric neo tube magnet, then attaching a stronger axial polarized ring magnet of larger diameter would help levitate the tube rotor, with a mono-polar field facing the bismuth block.

[Allen Burgess]

Okay I’ve caught up on the design now with some further inquiry.

I’ve drawn a quick picture of what the basic arrangement is but I’ll have to wait till I’m at my home PC to post it.

So it’s the diametrically magnetized magnet that spins at high speed and why the magnet shaft must be strong and have superior bearings supporting it.
The coil and reed switch are at right angles to the spinning magnet, which is fixed at the optimum distance.

Because the magnet and shaft spin at super high speed, a protective case is required around it, but access is momentarily required to start it spinning.

Okay I think I understand the general physical arrangement.

Just thinking out loud - I wonder for the magnet shaft if that rod was made of bismuth metal of slightly smaller diameter than the hole in magnet, whether then magnet would then tend to “float” around the bismuth rod? (I’ve never tried it)? - If that did work, you would have the inside hole of the magnet become the “magnetic bearing” surrounding the bismuth rod.

If not, then the diametrical magnetized magnet could be suspended between two pieces of bismuth, and the coil/reed mounted 90 degrees on the top. A shaft of smaller diameter could be passed through the hole in the magnet just to roughly hold it place when it wan't spinning / operating or aid in getting it to spin. Once spinning, it should float and likely spin at incredible speeds! The switching ability of the reed switch would be the speed limiting factor..

With the reed switch opening and closing at very high speed inside a vacuum together with the collapsing flux of the (Tesla) series connected bifilar air coil, does make this little motor device interesting indeed.

@Sputins,

Check this CobraKiller2000 video out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNAC0NbsHRE

[Sputins]

@Sputins,

Go back and look at comment #3 on the first page of this thread. I'll help guide you through the replication if you accept the challenge. The kind of bearings I recently suggested are new ideas, but the important point is that they would fit inside the protective PVC coupling pictured in comment #3.

Just thinking out loud