ENLIGHTENED MAGNETISM (The Full Proof of Ken Wheeler's Theories)

[SisMika]

A real book about magnetism.

https://archive.org/details/magneticcircuit00karagoog

A book for those that don't want to waste their time on wild theories.

[bistander]

Conflict

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Hey Ufo,

I have been studying Albert Roy Davis' book and find a conflict between the vortex rotation direction for the magnet. The bottom two images are from his book and the top image is from you or Ken. Are they showing the same thing but in opposite directions? When trying to understand this theory, contradictions like that don't help. Any clarification is appreciated.

And another thing which maybe you can help me understand.

Quotes from Ken Wheeler...1

magnetism has but one movement not two, ..... a singular movement of the magnetic field itself. There are no static fields.

So in your experiment (post #1), if the magnetic field of the magnet is not static, it must be moving, or changing all the time. Why doesn't this changing magnetic field induce a voltage in the coil all the time, not just when you drop the iron slug on it?

Thanks,

bi

[BroMikey]

Hey Mikey,

I will like to start my post here with a very well known phrase from Nikola Tesla:

Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality.

Nikola Tesla



I also have no issues with math equations.


Actually Michael Faraday Math only reached Elementary School...and look at his discoveries and contribution to humanity...


Concluding this "rant"...LOL...That if they start by wandering from equation to equation...well, read what happens from Master Tesla above...

yes that's correct and I could go pull out all my old books and dazzle
folks making it look like I can really crunch those cookies.

When i say endless equations I don't mean to confuse that with
good ole quadratics, stuff that gets you where you need to be
with a large set of variables so you get close in the ball park then you
may have a starting place.

Instead these equations may have so many additional values put into
the mix you will lose all sense of reality. For instance an engineer doing
coefficients to allow for stress or measurements of electrical units, I don't
mean that stuff this is normal good sense.

I have watched the soap for years where high paid engineers think
they have all the answers and begin throwing out all of the past
common sense lower math. Exchanging the old math for a more
advanced.

It got so bad at General Motors in the 80's that the only way they could
build a car was to first bring in the layout mechanics who saw through
the new engineering models. Computer graphics were just coming in.

The Japans were doing circles around us.

It is bad today in the electronic circuit design field to the point that
Maytag completely lost they entire net worth in a 10 year period. The
math models said one thing, reality was another.

Like you say, for a practical design use the KISS formulas or die
a financial death in the long run.

All those old books with an infinite set of variables taking 50 pages
to solve is the stupidest thing I ever read. In fact I knew it was the
first 10 pages.

[Aaron]

counterspace, time, dimensions, etc.

Thanks Ufopolitics!
My problem with counterspace is not just the word itself. I could, and would, easily get over that if there were a valid concept behind it. I have read EPD's theories where he explains the concept of counterspace and redefines the word dimension.
The problem I have here is that the word dimension was perfectly well defined and the math behind and surrounding it is too. By redefining this word you cripple the math.
Now, even that could be acceptable if it would lead to a deeper understanding of things or point out errors or overlooked facts. But following EPD's theory, I can only say that this is the point where he loses me and I see him dashing off in fairy tales.
His mathematically constructed concept has no meaning in the sense of space or anything spacial. It is nonsensical.
Compare it to time, then 'per second' would be the measure/unit of countertime. If I give you 1 dollar per second, do I give you money in countertime? No, every second in real time I would be giving you a dollar. The concept of countertime does not make any sense.
Exactly the same goes for counterspace.
Calling it the vacuum makes it even worse, because a vacuum is a perfectly well defined concept, it is a space devoid of matter. By calling it counterspace only adds to the confusion.

How is Eric redefining the word dimension? That appears to assume that space having "3 dimensions" is original somehow if he is defining it different from that. Or, are you talking about dimensions in general?

Eric is not redefining anything but is actually showing and clarifying the original and intended electrical engineering uses of these words in their proper context.

"Electrical Engineering has four primary dimensions,

Metrical
1) time, t, second
2) space, l, centimeter

Substantial
3) magnetism, , Weber
4) dielectricity, , Coulomb

...The electrical-dimensional RELATIONS are derived from these primary dimensions, but the relations are not new dimensions. There are no others than 'the four'."

And x,y,z coordinates within the SINGLE dimension of space are relations and are also not dimensions. You and I are not in different dimensions in space or we couldn't type back and forth. We're in the same singular dimension of space but are at different coordinates.

The conventional theories of magnetism, etc. that you talk about explaining things just fine do indeed seem to do a job of explaining things within a limited ability but they don't allow us to actually get to the root of what is what. And just because those theories can make sense out of some of what we see does not make them correct. Those conventional theories you subscribe to are the one that are actually doing the redefining of the original language and not the other way around.

Vacuum is not perfectly well defined because being devoid of matter does not necessarily mean it is empty of everything and is misleading if going just by that. Therefore, vacuum should be called a plenum, since it is filled with infinite source potential by whatever name you want to give it.

The only true vacuum to me is a void that has no existence of aether. If it comes down to you simply not believing there is an aether, then not sure there can be a fruitful conversation or argument about any of this with you. Not arguing with you, but if you have your mind made up, even if you claim to be open to the evidence, then chances are, you won't agree with any of it no matter what.

The aether is proven to exist many times over the experiments that say it doesn't by many scientists over the years and the most important is probably Dayton Miller. The claim that Michelson-Morley disproved the aether is a mere .22 air rifle pellet next to a mountain of 50 caliber rounds.

This is not to put words in your mouth that you are making those exact arguments against, but they do go hand in hand with the arguments against these topics.

If there can be pressure, there can be a vacuum (suction) not talking about "vacuum space". Then there can be space and counterspace. If space IS the aether, which has distance and therefore time, then a void or lack of space is the inverse and is counterspace where there is no distance and there is no time. This is my own take.

Eric's Lone Pine Writings does show an example of a volume of space without the aether, but I'm not sure that an area without aether can be considered space at all. It's interesting that these topics are being discussed right now, because I'm working on mathematically analyzing the topic of this exact paragraph using what Eric is teaching to see if it actually is contrary to my own belief or if it actually does agree with it and is a matter of using different language.

Countertime, if that is time going in reverse, then it makes total sense, but you have to realize that your disbelief in such an idea is only based on your personal understanding of time.

Ken Wheeler says he is the only one that ever actually explaining what magnetism is - I don't have an opinion of that claim yet because I haven't studied his work enough, but I did see a few things that makes a lot of sense and I'd like to look into it more when I have time.

But similarly, it appears I'm the only one that has ever defined what time actually is - not just as a metrical dimension to measure things by but what time actually is. Sounds like a bold claim, but it is like commons sense when looking at the whole picture and it is so simple a child can understand it.

So when we believe or disbelieve something, it is only as valid as the limits of our own understanding, which is always subject to reality.

[BroMikey]

By redefining this word you cripple the math. SO what

But following EPD's theory, I can only say that this is the point where he loses me and I see him dashing off in fairy tales.
Who Eric?


His mathematically constructed concept has no meaning ................... So what



The concept of countertime does not make any sense.
Exactly the same goes for counterspace.

What about US military crafts turning what looks 90 degree

corners at 10,000 mph? These craft have been in use since the 50's

and they operate into the future or when they get back from their

little ride they are 1 hour older sometimes, than you and I are or that

they would have been had they never took that ride.

This explanation is well documented. Many folks use all kinds of

analogy but where the rubber meets the road, I just told you.

Now maybe you don't believe that either? Or never heard this?

Take a listen to Stan Deyo he tells it like it is.

Maybe you think he is a liar also? How many more liars will I need

to dig up? The list is very long, you know?

If that is what you think. 2X the speed of light? More.

Listen to Stan D. speak about technology 30 years old.

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsagEYfxPgs[/VIDEO]

[Ernst]

Hello Ernst,

Well...if you are so opponent to counterspace, like many more around here...then you guys could try to "digest it" better as Vacuum...maybe this way it would be better accepted...

You are right, this test "lingers" in between both theories...and there is a simple reason why...always a new theory is not accepted by the "audience"...since they will have to put behind another one which "history" dates back to two centuries plus.

You are completely right again...except that I do NOT have a "long way to go"

I do have that Theory proof(s) otherwise I would not have opened a Thread just to show this simple experiment-video...and may as well responded to Microwatt in his failed testing attempt to "disprove" Ken's Theories.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Thanks Ufopolitics!
My problem with counterspace is not just the word itself. I could, and would, easily get over that if there were a valid concept behind it. I have read EPD's theories where he explains the concept of counterspace and redefines the word dimension.
The problem I have here is that the word dimension was perfectly well defined and the math behind and surrounding it is too. By redefining this word you cripple the math.
Now, even that could be acceptable if it would lead to a deeper understanding of things or point out errors or overlooked facts. But following EPD's theory, I can only say that this is the point where he loses me and I see him dashing off in fairy tales.
His mathematically constructed concept has no meaning in the sense of space or anything spacial. It is nonsensical.
Compare it to time, then 'per second' would be the measure/unit of countertime. If I give you 1 dollar per second, do I give you money in countertime? No, every second in real time I would be giving you a dollar. The concept of countertime does not make any sense.
Exactly the same goes for counterspace.
Calling it the vacuum makes it even worse, because a vacuum is a perfectly well defined concept, it is a space devoid of matter. By calling it counterspace only adds to the confusion.
Anyway... I am glad to read that you DO NOT have a long way to go, and you believe you indeed have full proof.
I'll be following your video's then, asking clarification where needed. You do have a long way to go to convince me , but that can't be your goal, can it?
Don't worry about it, maybe I am too old to learn


Ernst.

[bistander]

Apology

Vauge?...what is that?...maybe you meant "vague"?

Insults me?...what about you trying to belittle me...to set me in the ridicule by writing that "They were 21 and 8 years of age respectively in 1936."

There are many sites where the same exact statement I wrote here and on my video is displayed.

Cure Zone

BiomagneticsUSA

Your main job around this Forum is to underestimate everyone around here basically whenever you are running out of arguments or proof...the problem is that you rush so much to do it...that you make this kind of STUPID mistakes very often.

And finally, I could really care less if you do or don't wanna "recognize" the MAIN Domain Walls in Magnets...that is your complete and solely choice and problem, not mine...some people remain being stupid throughout their lives til they die...and that seems to be your case.

And am sorry...but I don't need your negative opinions/comments nor your purposely "blind" status related to facts shown and proven throughout history of magnetism development by many, I mean many bright Scientists of recognized names...that compared to you...well you do not even reach the level nor compare to even their used toilet paper.

Now you are free to go to your "Open Discussion Thread" and keep crying out your problems with me there...

Yes, I made a spelling error. And your statement was in fact correct. Albert Roy Davis established the Albert Roy Davis Research Laboratory, Green Cove Springs, Florida in 1936 to study magnetic effects. Quite remarkable for a 21 year old immigrant who was also naturalized as a US citizen in 1936. I just thought 21 was young to be researching magnetism.

I apologize to you. But I am not convinced of the theories of Albert Roy Davis. I intend to read some more of his work.

bi

[Ufopolitics]

You made a vauge statement and I made a statement of fact. Clarification comes from you with insults. Typical.

bi

Vauge?...what is that?...maybe you meant "vague"?

Insults me?...what about you trying to belittle me...to set me in the ridicule by writing that "They were 21 and 8 years of age respectively in 1936."

There are many sites where the same exact statement I wrote here and on my video is displayed.

Cure Zone

BiomagneticsUSA

Your main job around this Forum is to underestimate everyone around here basically whenever you are running out of arguments or proof...the problem is that you rush so much to do it...that you make this kind of STUPID mistakes very often.

And finally, I could really care less if you do or don't wanna "recognize" the MAIN Domain Walls in Magnets...that is your complete and solely choice and problem, not mine...some people remain being stupid throughout their lives til they die...and that seems to be your case.

And am sorry...but I don't need your negative opinions/comments nor your purposely "blind" status related to facts shown and proven throughout history of magnetism development by many, I mean many bright Scientists of recognized names...that compared to you...well you do not even reach the level nor compare to even their used toilet paper.

Now you are free to go to your "Open Discussion Thread" and keep crying out your problems with me there...

[Ufopolitics]

Let's rant together Bro...

Now that's the way to go, I like equations don't get me wrong yet
all of the endless/meanless math that I have pursued over the years
thinking It was going to put me on top of things, left me with only
more number crunching. I thought it would make me the smartest
man on earth? I was wrong.

What I like math for is to get me into the ball park so I can begin
experimenting as we see with UFO's work. Most excellent UFO, not
boring at all. Right on Que. A big thumbs up!!!

Hey Mikey,

I will like to start my post here with a very well known phrase from Nikola Tesla:

Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality.

Nikola Tesla

I also have no issues with math equations...however, they mean absolutely nada if they are not backed up by scientific testing, material evidence, physical proof...then they will fall in the same old and full vault of old theories that were never proven...

Actually Michael Faraday Math only reached Elementary School...and look at his discoveries and contribution to humanity...

If We read back in time...we realize that whenever Faraday presented to the Royal Society of London his findings related to EM Induction...All Mathematicians at the time refused his theories just because they could not explain -by equations nor formulas- his "imaginary lines of force"...AND, if it wouldn't have been because of James Clerk Maxwell interest on this material...well, I could tell you we all would still be lighting our houses with propane and mineral spirits lamps...

If You search about every single main scientific contribution to mankind...you will always find that it originally started by a simple physical experiment, while none started with just a formula except the "One Stone" head of Einstein...however his was never any "contribution" to mankind but just some "entertainment" to distract from the real deal...which up to now is still unknown.

There is a very basic but strict "chronological" law, when it comes to scientific discoveries...

First a Physical experiment is shown with the respective results...and then, afterwards...as the "second plate" comes this guys known as the Mathematicians...trying to "prove" with formulas the results are accountable for...based on numbers. So, it seems if this guys will not be able to "prove" your work...even if it is very real, reproducible and observable...they will deny it.

Look at the way Hendrik Lorentz FUC**D up Maxwell Quaternion Equations...Oliver Heaviside Giant Magnetic Curl Equations...The Aether existence...and more and more...just to replace them with rigid Tensors and Vectors...as if all the magnetic fields would be that way...straight, rigid and not curved at all.

However, the "Scientific Community" at the time Lorentz presented his BS work...everyone applauded him...

Concluding this "rant"...LOL...That if they start by wandering from equation to equation...well, read what happens from Master Tesla above...

But then again...that is the simple reason why ...while the development of very high technologies related to communications...cybernetics, electronics,etc...have escalated sky high levels...we are still transporting our As*** with the stinking farting machines every where we go to...and the main energy available that feeds this planet...depends upon the stinking Oil, Gas and Diesel...

Regards


Ufopolitics

[bistander]

You are disappointing me every time more Bistander...

Your "Analysis Capacity" shown by your comment above is really all the way to Zero.

If You would have only care to read, just the beginning of that Book...in page 7 and 8 (Acknowledgements)...:

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You would've realized that it meant their Scientific Investigations started from Literature written since those years...

I doubt very much your "Intellectual and Mental Abilities and Capacity" would allow you to even start discerning all the upcoming material following this simple experiment as only the "Aperture".

It is very difficult to deal with STUPID people...

You made a vague statement and I made a statement of fact. Clarification comes from you with insults. Typical.

bi

[Ufopolitics]

That quote of Ken's you posted I believe is right on and is the basic premise of the first chapter of Eric Dollard's Lone Pine Writings, which is very foundational and everyone should study it. The attempt at standardizing those basic electrical terms was censored years ago, but its all laid out in that book.

You might find the last 1+ month of of Bedini's posts here interesting in relation to these concepts as well as specific focus on the Bloch Wall for anyone interested: The 3d Monopole Coil How To Build

This image is in relation to the disclosure on John's Zero Force Motor.

Hello Aaron and many thanks for your response,

Yes, I know...Ken continuously mentions and credits Eric Dollard's work on his book...and on the main thread about the book.

Now, about being able to fully discern it by everyone who reads all this material is where I really doubt it...that a high percentage of the "Human Animals" (paraphrasing Ken Wheeler's words) would be able to fully understand them...


Sincerely


Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

Davis-Rawls Scientific Investigations date back to 1936...:

They were 21 and 8 years of age respectively in 1936.
Albert Roy Davis and Walter C. Rawls, Jr. wrote the book Magnetism and its Effects on the Living System copyright 1974. This is where you will find the image you posted above. And no, I do not believe that is an accurate representation of a magnet.

bi

You are disappointing me every time more Bistander...

Your "Analysis Capacity" shown by your comment above is really all the way to Zero.

If You would have only care to read, just the beginning of that Book...in page 7 and 8 (Acknowledgements)...:

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You would've realized that it meant their Scientific Investigations started from Literature written since those years...

I doubt very much your "Intellectual and Mental Abilities and Capacity" would allow you to even start discerning all the upcoming material following this simple experiment as only the "Aperture".

It is very difficult to deal with STUPID people...

[Ufopolitics]

Counterspace=Vacuum...?

As an opponent to anything counterspace,

Hello Ernst,

Well...if you are so opponent to counterspace, like many more around here...then you guys could try to "digest it" better as Vacuum...maybe this way it would be better accepted...

I am very interested to see your proof of Kenny's theories. The experiment shown and its results can be explained with current theories as well as with Ken's. So they do not distinguish one theory from the other.

You are right, this test "lingers" in between both theories...and there is a simple reason why...always a new theory is not accepted by the "audience"...since they will have to put behind another one which "history" dates back to two centuries plus.

To prove Ken's theory you should show an experiment that does.
In other words, an experiment that shows a result that can not be explained by current theories but can be explained by Ken's.
Then you have proof.
Now you still have a long way to go.


Ernst.

You are completely right again...except that I do NOT have a "long way to go"

I do have that Theory proof(s) otherwise I would not have opened a Thread just to show this simple experiment-video...and may as well responded to Microwatt in his failed testing attempt to "disprove" Ken's Theories.


Regards


Ufopolitics

[BroMikey]

Seeing a plane of null-point inertia sucking in light. FIRST TIME EVER SEEN

Bloch wall, differentiating magnetism from a magnet.


Al

Thanks AL and most of all thank you Ken for your very personal
sit down video in the form of a rebuke to a bunch of non scientific
almost brain dead leaders who don't know.

And I thought my head had a good shine. Pop in now and then and
blow some more smoke when you want Ken. Just funin.

I need to hear you talk so i can learn to think more clearly on magnetism,
I am still trying to shake the kindergarten level explanations.
Taught at the college level. Can you imagine?

Oh wait, I see another video, goodie.

[aljhoa]

Seeing a plane of null-point inertia sucking in light. FIRST TIME EVER SEEN

Bloch wall, differentiating magnetism from a magnet.


Al