ENLIGHTENED MAGNETISM (The Full Proof of Ken Wheeler's Theories)

[Ufopolitics]

I was referring to currents or moving charges in the liquid solution. Like a motor with a liquid armature.

[bistander]

Liquid armature

Why currents flowing through any kind of static, rigid shape object... will ever cause the liquid (plus debris) to generate such high speed turbulence?

I was referring to currents or moving charges in the liquid solution. Like a motor with a liquid armature.

[Ufopolitics]

Hi Ufo,

Did you notice this?
The images of magnetic fields are particularly interesting to me. I don't see a vortex and do not see the field behavior at the equator that you claim (ie. dielectric plane).

Hello Bistander,

You will not see a Vortex in a Stationary picture...ever.

Like I have shown on the Magnetism Particle Dynamics video...the Higher Pressure Lines traveling from N to S and from S to N are located in the Outer "Shell" of Magnetic Field...It is also shown on Ken's Book...understand that up to here?

Well, if you cover up the Magnetic Field with ferromagnetic Filings/Powder, in the immediate space where it is located...like a piece of paper on top of magnet...then this particles will actually Stick to this outer shell, freezing, pausing any vortexing activity...As well as blocking Visibility of the Internal Structure of Field, where the Mid Pressures which are the ones who defines the Equator or Inertial Dielectric Plane would be completely occluded by ferromagnetic filings.

Can you visualize/understand that part so far?.


Could You visualize a 3D Layer over a 3D Shaped Object?...Then Imagine the whole Field as that object...imagine the field does have "internal components" defining its inner moving parts/vortexes...while having an outer 3D Layer where the HP lines Fluctuate/Travel...Now dust it up with ferromagnetics...like spray painting the "Invisible Man"...now what do you see?

If You paint with a solid color paint (like the iron particles are, very solid) the outer 3D Layer of Field....you will never, ever see its internal components.

WRT the swirling liquid in your video: Have you considered it is due to the currents flowing in the stationary magnetic field?

I do not think so...

Why currents flowing through any kind of static, rigid shape object... will ever cause the liquid (plus debris) to generate such high speed turbulence?

I believe we could even set inside there a Turbine Propeller...static...with the most aerodynamic fins design ever conceived/constructed....and still...there will be no turbulence created.

That is the reason why I tested a piece of iron cylinder with the same exact shape and mass...but non magnetized...nothing happens...Calm.

On another question to you...Why does the direction of Turbulence changes when I flipped Magnet?...If that "Static Field" is so Symmetric, and so evenly distributed straight lines from N>S...then why fluid vortex reverse directions so radically?

Nice research.

bi

Thanks


Cheers


Ufopolitics

[bistander]

Really big magnetic field

Hi Ufo,

Did you notice this?

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/1214

The images of magnetic fields are particularly interesting to me. I don't see a vortex and do not see the field behavior at the equator that you claim (ie. dielectric plane).

WRT the swirling liquid in your video: Have you considered it is due to the currents flowing in the stationary magnetic field?

Nice research.

bi

[Sputins]

Mhd

Hello to All,

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65SaRqdcdng[/VIDEO]

The set up is very simple...a glass container, a strip of copper surrounding the inner mid section and connected to positive. The Electrode was a brass rod connected to negative.

The reason why I chose to connect the electric field developing inside electrolyte to be that way is simple...a Magnet Vortex is Centrifugal, meaning it evolves from center to outer space...so I wanted to reproduce the E-Field that same way in order not to be opposed which case could mess up reading in directions of vortexes for each polarization. So, if Electrode is at very center of container, electrons will travel outwards (centrifugal as well) towards the positive closed copper plate.

The main chemical to add to water is the Potassium Hydroxide (1 Tablespoon). However, the only available concentrated drain cleaner I found had also Sodium Hydroxide (kind of a salt, but very caustic)...but it worked out just fine.


WARNING: PLEASE DO NOT HANDLE THIS ELECTROLYTE WITHOUT RUBBER GLOVES SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO WORK WITH THIS TYPE OF CHEMICALS!!

This chemicals will eat your skin, making it first very soapy like...as it will damage any plastics or electronics like a Camera.

As you could realize...non of this additives to water is Ferromagnetic, therefore, there is absolutely no magnetic influence to any of the observed floating/moving/spinning particles, which majority are debris from reactions to the copper strip plate catalyzed by the E-Field (Electron Bombardment) action.

I believe spinning direction is clearly observed for each polarization....I used an HD Cam...and tried that all the video formatting process did not affect viewing details in high quality.

I am not that happy with illumination though...I wanted to be able to observe bubbles much brighter...and you noticed when I am moving a front light trying to...

Original tests supposed to have all power connecting metals to be 100% Stainless Steel, I did not had those at the moment...so debris was created with copper. And instead of a strip...it was a whole stainless bowl as container and positive conductor...but then camera could only have a top view, which is not what I wanted.

Also, 12 Volts is the recommended voltage...

I hope you enjoy seeing a Vortex on a Magnet...since Lorentz disregarded this possibility many years ago, since it does conflict with his mathematics...However, Vortex is there...and clear.


Regards



Ufopolitics

[ldrancer]

im jsut gonna double post here. youve not shown a vortex. you have not prove the concept of a vortex. there is no vortex in that video. you got it? now my point is that its not real.. your just, well.. i dont know. theres no such thing as a vortex and you dont know how a magnet works. like the claim you made that its a vortex. a vortex is a concept

[ldrancer]

this video is completely mine, i made it, mine...mio, me, myself and i did it.. Understand that retard?

So, you could not have seen it "a long time ago", tard.

ive seen it before if you knw what it is. its a magnet swirling water. i can find it but im not going to. where did you get your idea from or did you copyright it tard your not even doing any functions yourself, who gives you you orders? wheeler? are you his cheerleader?

i dont get it, you dont get it, ever like you know it never ends with you. did you originally make the video? ive seen a magnet in a tank of baking soda before with energy stuck to it. interesting but nothing is shown. anyway do you get it? its been done, ive seen it was my point. dont you get it? did you make the first video cause i just said that. I SEEN IT. are you just intentaionly pissing people off? how about well the fact i just explained it and didnt mention me watching your recent video you linked to. how about getting the idea from my explanation of it that its been done once before. this conversation cant go nowhere you dont get past present. or if somethign isnt there or is. i think your just hallucinating

i guess being fanatic enough does that to you? huh?

[ldrancer]

Idrancer,

DID YOU WATCH THE VIDEO ABOVE?!

stupidest topic ever. ya i seen it like, before. when i see a magnet in a fish tank of water i know what the videos about..

Not going to explain yur religion to you. yea i seen these videos a long time ago. why is it you keep repeating the same video over and over? and you have not took the responsiblity of answering my question to you after being debunked. so i owe you and noone else nothing. a rope explains it, its one thing and boom. you keep repeating the same video and why dont you explain the middle there, but you make some vortex claim. im really tired of thsi topic you have been told 5 times how your debunked, and showed 2 different working debunking models of your theories, destroying it both ways. your gone dude bye. religious fanatic.

you just dont pay attention your shown and you just refuse to take your responsiblity to answer questions.

why do you say video what does it mean ANYWAY? you don't, see a vortex. and you keep saying it, but your the one who makes the videos. so. easy for you to say when you try to force someone to answer all the frames of your movie as questions. its a ****ign magnet swirling water, youve done it before too and it does not have a vortex in it. the worst drawings of vortexes arent workign models.

its been made in 3d what is yoru major malfunction!? it doesnt work, a CONCEPT VORTETDX = NO WORK. It doenst FUNCTION. IT PERFORMS NOTHING. LIKE YOUR VIDEO AND YOUR CLAIM IT PEFORMS NOTHING.

there is NO evidence.
and quit spamming to me your stupid ****ing theories also.

ive debunked you 5 times shown 2 working models debunking you or 3 or more.

[Ufopolitics]

a model of a vortex has already been made. the concept was imagined probably from a person who seen a magnet. your not doing nothing new then in that case. can you explain where a vortex concept came from? you act like its proved but then again you act like you invented the damn idea, then go off on me about it. but you never explain it like i asked. you cant prove it, you use the same thign what started the concept of that vortex and claim a non-working model, is how a magnet which actually does work, works. no cause the work is actual real physical and affects the world. a vortex is a concept and cant be used in science. it is 100% and ive proved it 4 or 5 times now its a concept and does not belong in science, your not doing science. when you do this, stuff, your doing religion

thats what this whole thread is is a religious thread. knew when i heard the word vortex i should of ran, wait i did. i never stayed around for wheelers next buy from me stuff buy stuff from me pitch.

debunk one of my actual proofs beofre you go calling me names you nut

or let wheeler do that. he is the one who is supposed to.

here ill give you an idea. you say, you flip the magnet then it switches the rotation direction. ok heres something that acts exactly like that. guess what it is. ... ROPE.

Idrancer,

DID YOU WATCH THE VIDEO ABOVE?!

[ldrancer]

a model of a vortex has already been made. the concept was imagined probably from a person who seen a magnet. your not doing nothing new then in that case. can you explain where a vortex concept came from? you act like its proved but then again you act like you invented the damn idea, then go off on me about it. but you never explain it like i asked. you cant prove it, you use the same thign what started the concept of that vortex and claim a non-working model, is how a magnet which actually does work, works. no cause the work is actual real physical and affects the world. a vortex is a concept and cant be used in science. it is 100% and ive proved it 4 or 5 times now its a concept and does not belong in science, your not doing science. when you do this, stuff, your doing religion

thats what this whole thread is is a religious thread. knew when i heard the word vortex i should of ran, wait i did. i never stayed around for wheelers next buy from me stuff buy stuff from me pitch.

debunk one of my actual proofs beofre you go calling me names you nut

or let wheeler do that. he is the one who is supposed to.

here ill give you an idea. you say, you flip the magnet then it switches the rotation direction. ok heres something that acts exactly like that. guess what it is. ... ROPE.

[Ufopolitics]

About the magnetic Hydro Dynamic Vortex Video...

Hello to All,

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65SaRqdcdng[/VIDEO]

The set up is very simple...a glass container, a strip of copper surrounding the inner mid section and connected to positive. The Electrode was a brass rod connected to negative.

The reason why I chose to connect the electric field developing inside electrolyte to be that way is simple...a Magnet Vortex is Centrifugal, meaning it evolves from center to outer space...so I wanted to reproduce the E-Field that same way in order not to be opposed which case could mess up reading in directions of vortexes for each polarization. So, if Electrode is at very center of container, electrons will travel outwards (centrifugal as well) towards the positive closed copper plate.

The main chemical to add to water is the Potassium Hydroxide (1 Tablespoon). However, the only available concentrated drain cleaner I found had also Sodium Hydroxide (kind of a salt, but very caustic)...but it worked out just fine.


WARNING: PLEASE DO NOT HANDLE THIS ELECTROLYTE WITHOUT RUBBER GLOVES SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO WORK WITH THIS TYPE OF CHEMICALS!!

This chemicals will eat your skin, making it first very soapy like...as it will damage any plastics or electronics like a Camera.

As you could realize...non of this additives to water is Ferromagnetic, therefore, there is absolutely no magnetic influence to any of the observed floating/moving/spinning particles, which majority are debris from reactions to the copper strip plate catalyzed by the E-Field (Electron Bombardment) action.

I believe spinning direction is clearly observed for each polarization....I used an HD Cam...and tried that all the video formatting process did not affect viewing details in high quality.

I am not that happy with illumination though...I wanted to be able to observe bubbles much brighter...and you noticed when I am moving a front light trying to...

Original tests supposed to have all power connecting metals to be 100% Stainless Steel, I did not had those at the moment...so debris was created with copper. And instead of a strip...it was a whole stainless bowl as container and positive conductor...but then camera could only have a top view, which is not what I wanted.

Also, 12 Volts is the recommended voltage...

I hope you enjoy seeing a Vortex on a Magnet...since Lorentz disregarded this possibility many years ago, since it does conflict with his mathematics...However, Vortex is there...and clear.


Regards



Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

No Vortexes Uh?

so your not testing anythign at all whatever, none. zero. Your trying to prove a concept, a vortex, with Nothing. There is nothign to test.

Vortex, fake. Anything related to a vortex is fake. Fake vortex hard drives- Fake vortex grass cuttting fueling with burned grass vortex- both of these, where spewed with this idea, of a magnet works with a vortex by Wheeler.

Really where is this you guys think vortexes are real coming from? see i just proved everythign you've hyeard about them are fake. there is nothign real about a vortex. you cant even see it. ive never believed in them.

I said a vortex is a concept. I've proven this now. You can't do science with concepts.

a magnet is a vortex? and you know HOW magnets work which is what the topic is, and your saying its becuase its a vortex.

you say a magnet works by cause it IS a vortex, then after I say a vortex is a concept you say a magnet works by using a concept vortex. again the entire vortex is a concept. if a magnet works its not by a vortex. a vortex is a concept. maybe, you since you seen all these thigns and all this, crap maybe you should look at it different what makes you think your so right?
bye.

for real. evidences proving magnets are a vortex ...come on you guys need to respond to me. show me a picture that shows it going round and round..

Idranter,


I will show you not just "a" picture...but 10 minutes of video with thousands of frames/pictures...where Magnet's vortexes are spinning round and round and reversed when flipped...and then forward to then reverse it again and again and so on and on...

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65SaRqdcdng[/VIDEO]

MAGNETISM HYDRODYNAMIC VORTEXES


Enjoy it...


But then again...that video may not be enough proof to you.


Hope you are taking your medicine...


Take care


Ufopolitics

[ldrancer]

tornado=swirl. do you telling me that if i have a 2-liter and do that tornado, thing right its a tornado? no argument? no objection no comment? fine. then, i have a ? in your words a vortex? a vortex in a 2 liter bottle?
..noo

ive seen the picture. are you guys asking me to give my opinion? i dont really.. have that much an idea here but im just telling you to look at it different. im not attacking everybody else unless you blindly follow, but just to the theory here.

I said a vortex is a concept. I've proven this now. You can't do science with concepts.

Im not going to .. give...my opinion on what is happening here, but you guys shouldlook at it a differnet way, just cause wheeler said it dont mean nothing. he also said, vortex hdd's, and a vortex feeding itself its own fuel lawn mowers. no it wouldnt be a vortex if thats even real;this vortex lawnmower, it would be a vacuum. like a vacuum cleaner. guess why you never seen it.

ive gave 3 proofs that vortexes are concepts. yuo guys havent gave one. and thats the topic here, though isnt it? a magnet is a vortex? and you know HOW magnets work which is what the topic is, and your saying its becuase its a vortex. which that isnt science if you use concepts. the magnet still works without your idea.

3 proofs, bill gaede, the website link to the pdf, and the 2-liter bottle example. i just wonder why you guys continue plodding along some religion for. freedom of religion guys so i can say what i believe here, i believe real things not fake so i can talk. if you guys can answer my question. then you could quit talking.

you guys cant even define what your talking about going back to my point about a tornado 2-liter. your trying to prove a concept to be real, youcant be consistent with your word.
you say a magnet works by cause it IS a vortex, then after I say a vortex is a concept you say a magnet works by using a concept vortex. again the entire vortex is a concept. if a magnet works its not by a vortex. a vortex is a concept. maybe, you since you seen all these thigns and all this, crap maybe you should look at it different what makes you think your so right? wheeler? ! that guy insults me and cant answer one of my questions. hah. maybe he should respond to this vortex and his magnet theory. not you bunch of guys

and as for them pictures you have the middle blanked out ive explained this before like at least once ? ok. fine. or if you dont blank out the middle the side lines go out into nowhere. your drawing an infinity symbol and thinking its an object. infinity another concept.. edit: and wouldnt you know after wirting that i searched for it, infinity concept, Infinity Is a Beautiful Concept ? And It's Ruining Physics
also, too you couldnt draw an infinity cause everybody knows it wouldnt work. thats the plain truth right there showing you it dont work. everybody knows an infinity symbol doesnt show, infinity working. it breaks. and thats exactly what your trying to draw using a vortex. thats why it dont work and yuo see it doesnt work. thats good reason.
ive played with magnets and crts since i was a kid. dont do that yuoll, freeze the tv

for real. 4 evidences proving magnets arent a vortex or an infinity symbol. come on yu gus need to resond tome. show me a picture that shows it going round and round.. and working without just ending up creasing itself.

it was made an object of this, concept, but it locks in the middle, it cant spin. you guys seen it right? the metal ball that he had in the one video. actual thign but it doesnt function. hes siting there with it in his hand and cant come to the idea hes wrong.wtv it doesnt matter.

is there not one part of a car that doesnt spin to work? the pistons spin round round the crankshaft. the wheels spin round round the bearing. the balls in that spin round round the races. the axels spin round round the transaxle. trans shaft spins round round the flywheel. you spin the wheel round round. the wheel son the busssssssssssssssssssssssss goooo come on this is 5 year old stuff. some guy playing with tvs and magnets your going to believe? a vortex? no vortexes are not real.

[j dove]

Irdancer

WOW dude you got issues .

Apparently the observation of nature is not your strong suit . You have never seen a tornado or hurricane let alone experienced one . If you did I think you will change your thinking on the NATURE of the vortex . And would be convinced it is very real . Yes sir I question your powers of observation .
So you think this topic should be shut down because you believe it's fake ? So no one else can question your superior intellect with obvious observations of nature .
Science is the study of nature and it's functions , that is ie....
It's natural laws.

Did you even care to look or try the experiments ?
I think not !! If you find this topic so offense to your
Intellect ; your free to never return . I think non here would suffer greatly without your scientific incite and surely we could do without your verbal abuse and insults .
And with that I wish you well ; good bye to you !

@ UFO Thank you for your work in the study of this most interesting subject . Also for you efforts to make and post your videos . But mostly for your well thought out experiments . Though it seems some are not able to draw usable conclusions from them . I see where your going with this in your design of generators and motors .
I look forward to seeing what you will present .

I do not post often but have been reading your threads for years I much appreciate all of your efforts .
Am glad that you find the time and effort to make this info known to others .

A fellow researcher ,

Jeff

[Michelinho]

Hi ldrancer,

Another fool who believes that:

THE DOUBLE VORTEX
WITH THE SPINS ALONGSIDE
Noticing the last illustration, it is evident that the "whirlwind" or "tornado" effect
is present and that there are two vortices present at each "pole".
An interesting and important piece of in
formation, though, is that these vortices
are not all the same, as is shown in pr
evious illustration for clarity. Notice the
distribution of the spins:

Howard Johnson The Secret World Of Magnets

It's illustrated too.

Take care,

Michel