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[Rl2003]

UFO's Motors

Carol,
I just read your last post and wanted to respond.
I have rewound and made a few of these designs by UFO.
Funny he still does not use his real name?? Anyway I am still working with
this idea in hopes that it will lead to something worth while, but allways aware that it may not be as wonderful as some may hope.
I have gained some more insight to how this is working and can see if pulsed properly and with a large mass
for a motor we may be able to run to independant generators from one motor.
But this makes me ask,, why not just build a large window motor using the
Bedini Cole circuit.
No brushes and no drag?? I think time may tell.
But one thing I have learned from these forums is, if you don't build some of these
idea's and keep up, by the time someone does verify it works, you now have to go back
and try building it. In the meen time, others are going to new levels and most won't understand the"why" it works.

Never the less it would be nice to use our existing motors in this way.

Mark

[citfta]

3bgs

Well the 3 battery generating system thread has come to life again with some promising results. It seems the kind of battery used in battery position 3 is the real secret as Dave has said all along. And most of us have been trying to find the right kind of battery. It looks like Dave and Matt have found the secret. According to the results Dave is now getting the battery in position three has to be an AGM or absorbative glass mat type of battery. Dave is now able to run his load and watch the primary batteries go up and up in charge. Congratulations Dave and Matt. I only have one of those batteries and it is too dead to work so I WILL be looking for some more at the local salvage yard.

Later,
Carroll

[citfta]

Hi all,

Well things have gotten pretty quiet on this thread for a while. There is still a lot of enthusiasm on the assymetrical motor thread though. It has been over a month now since that thread was started and we still haven't seen any real evidence of an improved motor. We have seen a lot of people replicating and most of them have gotten them to run with a lot of torque. What seems to be missing is a basic understanding that any motor can be rewound with larger wire and fewer turns and you will get a lot more torque. Larger wire and fewer turns equals more current which is also what all the replicators are seeing. I really had my hopes up that this design might be the secret to some real power, but so far I have only seen more power generated by more current which is really nothing new.

Later,
Carroll

[LutherG]

Take a look at Paul Babcock's Video posted here on this forum.

I think a lot will be understood from a better vantage point by everyone if you all take a look at Magnetic Energy Secrets by Paul Babcock. I'm kicking myself for not being able to make it to the Conference... hopefully I won't miss another one...

No, I'm not selling this video, just highly recommending it! If you want to see the energy being tapped into by UFO, Bedini, Matt's charger, the 3BGS system, etc., then you will see a fine and very simple example in this video.

You can get it either here on this forum or on the new Bedini forum called Energy Science Forum.

Best regards to all,

Luther

[citfta]

Here's another "magical" circuit. This circuit is posted I guess because it lit some Christmas LED lights in a way that was not understood by the originator of the circuit. It is pretty easy to see what is going on with simple electronic concepts. As stated by one of the posters about this circuit it works just as well with a capacitor in place of the coil of wire and brass rod. Of course it does. The coil of wire and brass rod IS a capacitor. And capacitors easily pass AC current. If you use a larger capacitor it will pass more current. They are used for this purpose all the time in motor circuits. As also stated by one of the posters if you put a cap across the output of the bride rectifier the output voltage goes up. That is also perfectly normal. When you are using a meter to measure the DC voltage coming out of the bridge you are only getting an average because of the pulsing of the DC voltage. If you add a cap to the output the cap will charge to the peak voltage if the load is small enough. So it appears the voltage is higher when you add a cap to the output.

Also you should be aware connecting the hot side of the AC circuit back to the ground instead of the neutral is not a good idea. If you have a ground fault circuit breaker it will trip out. And if there is not a good connection all the way back to the main panel your whole circuit could become energized posing a serious shock hazard.

Respectfully,
Carroll

[shylo]

To MJN sorry

Hi Mike, sorry about that I'm not very good with computers, since I don't know how to use the quote feature,I just type your words in a short form version.
I only started on this journey a couple years ago,and have read alot.
I have a hard time with ohms law.
Does it apply to all situations, such as the so called" cold electricty"( the equal and opposite reaction to hot)
The higher the resistance , the lower the amps , the less watts.
Is there no way to reduce the R to 1 to use the full potential of the voltage
I've read many of your posts' and realize you have alot of knowledge in regards to these topics and respect what you say, that was the reason for the question.
shylo

[Michael John Nunnerley]

read what I said!

Overunity is possible but you can't use it???
shylo

Do not change my sentance, quote what I said and do not change it. I said USUALLY IT IS TOO LOW IN POWER (watts), and then I went on to say that if you can add in real power in the form of current then you can have a usable gain. Power (watts) = current (amps) X EMF (volts), 100 watts = 100amps X 1volt, 10kw = 100amps X 100volts.

If you can charge a battery over a period of time with very low current, you can then use that battery at high current output for a lesser period of time than it took to charge it, BUT, the time power factor shows a gain to what was used to charge it.

Mike

[jpolakow]

Hi Carroll,

I just want to commend you for starting a thread where ones opinion can be shared, while still being respectful of other people with differing opinions. Far too often in this forum and in this world someone who holds a different opinion than another person is taken, as a personal attack, and people get defensive, peoples' egos come into play, and the situation quickly degenerates. It is refreshing to see a thread such as yours, where peoples ideas can be shared openly, and still be treated respectfully. I am happy to say that if more people acted with the patience, genuineness, and respect as you do, everyone's common goals might be realized much sooner. Of all the time I have seen your posts on this forum, I have never seen a disparaging remark by you. Also you have been more than helpful in helping others(including me) with their projects. Good job, your example has not gone unnoticed.

John

[Matthew Jones]

Are you talking about resonance ? I think this term is comprehend in very narrow sense while it can be extended to circuit running almost of itself recovering most of power to power itself so a very tiny amount of additional energy from outside is required to make it self-sustaining. Danger is in runaway situation if external bit of energy is to much

Actually when you find it it is opposite of that description. It takes alot of outside energy to sustain it, and runaway situation or even a running situation is almost impossible.

Matt

[shylo]

to MJN

Overunity is possible but you can't use it???
shylo

[boguslaw]

Are you talking about resonance ? I think this term is comprehend in very narrow sense while it can be extended to circuit running almost of itself recovering most of power to power itself so a very tiny amount of additional energy from outside is required to make it self-sustaining. Danger is in runaway situation if external bit of energy is to much

[Michael John Nunnerley]

To show how OU is achieved to really power things

Hi All

Good thread to vent a few things.

Over unity can be achieved but usually it is so low that you can't use it. This is how OU can be used but you need to use power to gain power e.g.

You can extract say 100v at micro amps, so your usable power is nearly nothing, "using plain language". Now you take 1v @ 100amps you will have 100watts of power, this is your input you have to use. Now add your motive free force of 100v you will have 101v @100amps plus your micro amps which we will discount, and so what do you have? W=A*V therefore 10.1kw. Now I know someone is going to say you can't do that, but oh yes you can, not only that you can do the same thing in a mechanical form, e.g.

A bolder of 1ton at the top of a hill has 1 person pushing it and it does not move or very little (100 amps @1v), 99 other people come to push it and it moves (100v @ no amps), the bolder now moves, but not only that it now has gone over the hill and is running down hill using it's 1ton.

Now the trick is the way you add these two things together to create more power than you used to start with.

I hope I have explained myself albeit in a very simple form "simpler the better".

So what I am saying is it is all in how you make a circuit to do what I have said, John Bedini has been saying this for years in the form of don't kill the dipole "the current you use to start with".

regards to all

Mike

[citfta]

Use the search function

Hi Ernst,

Thanks for your comments. There are several threads on this forum for almost every subject you named plus many many more. For specific threads about those subjects you need to use the search function. Or if you can't find a thread about the subject you are interested in you can always start a thread for it. However some of those threads have made it very clear they do NOT want the thread cluttered up with discussions about whether the subject of the thread is realistic or not. So that is why I started this thread. It is for the technical discussion of any of those projects.

Respectfully,
Carroll

[Ernst]

A thread like this is like a safe haven in the wild-west forum outside of here. For that reason it is a good thing.

Yet I think we all joined this forum for the same reason: we want free and clean energy.
With that in mind we should allow others to boldly go where we would never go. No matter how ridiculous we think it is. No one of us knows all the laws of nature.

The problem that I have with this thread is that it is a mix of everything and there for it reduces the searchability (is that a good word?).
Suppose I would like to know about receiving energy from EM radiation. It would be great to be able to see in one thread who has tried which methods and with what results.
Or telluric currents, or longitudinal electricity, cosmic radiation, Schumann frequencies etc.
Or you would like to see your idea verified by others, or you need help on your project.
For those things it is great to have a forum like this, but if everything of value ends up in one thread there is no more overview. And that greatly reduces the value of this forum.

Isn't there a better solution than to start this thread?

Ernst.

[shylo]

The magnetic field is of equal strenght around the whole sphere. The poles are evenly spaced, and you end up with 8 poles(thats with 4 magnets)
The problem is, at the poles the field closes in on itself.
shylo