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  • scratchrobot
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    I tried to compare the pulse with different cap's but don't see much of a difference

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  • Matthew Jones
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    I don't know what Rick F did... I'm sure someone else has something similar.

    I just stumbled up on it trying to make a simple motor attract. When I couldn't get the recovery from my simple motor I wired like monopole to see what would happen. And that was the result. A full inverted H wave.

    At the time a couple of us were looking at conditioned capacitors, Electrite. So that what I did with it.

    Its something I have wanted to play with but I have not had the time between my big TS, the garden, and my shop I am trying to build.

    Matt

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  • nvisser
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    Wasn't it what Rick F has done with the north , south arrangement magnets and the seq. bipolar switch where the trigger actually change each time? The way I understood it was that the north magnet would be pushed away and the next south one attracted.

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  • Matthew Jones
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    NO a MOTOR version will not run as it is meant to push the wheel away. But A joule thief or oscillator should.

    A but looking at my plan and realizing what I told ya. There is a little more to it then just switching the coil. You should be able figure it out from the schematic.

    It worked really well as motor.

    If you can't get it let me know I'll try to put something together from my monopole version.

    Matt

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  • nvisser
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    A SSG would not start with the drive coil the wrong way round.
    I have never tried it the way you suggest with say 2 drive coils on the ssg or ss ssg.
    Let me try it.

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  • Matthew Jones
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    Originally posted by nvisser View Post
    Any circuit ideas on how to do that?
    Just switch the position of the power wire. So that you would create a South field out of the coil.
    The wire that is now hooked to the battery will be hooked to the collector and the wire hooked to the collector will now be hooked to the battery.
    Follow me?

    If its just an oscillating circuit (IE a joule thief) then the trigger should still work the same but maybe not. I haven't tried it as an oscillator only a straight monopole. With a Reed to trigger.
    Both Pole Monopole

    I would try to get this half running and then see what the effect is with both halves running on one coil. I am not sure how it will act. I used 2 coils with mine.
    I wouldn't want to set you up for a fire or anything.
    It would fill a 100v cap up, as a monopole, in about 4 seconds to 140 -150 volt easy.
    Technically if you get it to work you'll be creating a scalar wave. (Tom Bearden's definition of a scalar).

    Cheers
    Matt

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  • StevanC
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    yes, Yes, YES

    Originally posted by scratchrobot View Post
    (snip)
    To me it than seems more we are compressing an amount of energy in a smaller amount of time, not time itself
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    scratchrobot
    Yes,
    You are correct:
    We try as hard as possible to reduce the amount of time the rise is delivered to the load.
    this reduction in the duration of time, i believe, JB (, JB any time soon back with us? ) calls "time compression" in his works?
    This is how i get it ATM , so I thought it would help if I use it in this fashion here, to further help us understand his (invaluable ) works better?

    Stevan C.

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  • nvisser
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    Originally posted by Matthew Jones View Post
    You might try to set 4 of them inverted so the radiant charge hits the caps on the negative. It will increase the potential in the capacitors. Or at close double the voltage in your caps. That is if higher voltage will make a difference.
    Matt
    Any circuit ideas on how to do that?

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  • Matthew Jones
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    I still would love to know how JB gets that ammeter to pulse at 10A with what we think is a parallel to series cap pulsar.
    More!

    I might be wrong but his input amperage is higher indicating more draw on the initial power source.

    As I drive this circuit with a 8 transistor Bedini sg coil
    You might try to set 4 of them inverted so the radiant charge hits the caps on the negative. It will increase the potential in the capacitors. Or at close double the voltage in your caps. That is if higher voltage will make a difference.

    Matt

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  • scratchrobot
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    Originally posted by StevanC View Post
    We want the innitial rise of the voltage to happen as sudden as possible (deltaV/deltaT).
    This is known also as dI/dt (as the current rises also) but let's not tooth pick now okay?

    We want the _slope_ to be *sheer*, it's the *T* we try hard to compress here okay?

    And i found out:
    The shorter the climb lasts, the bigger (2x 4x) the hump follows, no matter how high the initial spark was!

    we compress *TIME* here.

    Stevan C.
    Thank's very useful information

    I now understand why you wanted me to zoom in on the spike.
    I will test to see if get the same results and can influence them.

    To me it than seems more we are compressing an amount of energy in a smaller amount of time, not time itself

    I really really appreciate you sharing all this info

    scratchrobot

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  • nvisser
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    Originally posted by Matthew Jones View Post
    Vissie
    Whats the incoming power source. I know you said 1 amp but whats the voltage coming in? Regular 12 volt like the SSG's use?
    Good work buddy, I hope you can get your testing done. I would love to see the numbers.
    Cheers
    Matt
    YouTube - radiant ser par charger.avi

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  • StevanC
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    Originally posted by Matthew Jones View Post
    Doesn't seem to high. The Solar panels I have put out 24-26 volt. I never did understand the 18 volt thing.

    Cheers
    Matt
    Matt,
    try measure a 24V one on dusk or dawn

    Stevan C.

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  • StevanC
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    Originally posted by scratchrobot View Post
    So then we want that hump to last as long as possible?
    On the scope shot of John Bedini's device I see a different hump, like It's more divided over time, or am I talking nonsense here
    Maybe the pulse is different because he is using a DC power clamp probe.

    Batt:[ATTACH]5414[/ATTACH] vs Bulp:[ATTACH]5415[/ATTACH]

    scratchrobot
    We want the innitial rise of the voltage to happen as sudden as possible (deltaV/deltaT).
    This is known also as dI/dt (as the current rises also) but let's not tooth pick now okay?

    We want the _slope_ to be *sheer*, it's the *T* we try hard to compress here okay?

    And i found out:
    The shorter the climb lasts, the bigger (2x 4x) the hump follows, no matter how high the initial spark was!

    we compress *TIME* here.

    Stevan C.

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  • Matthew Jones
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    Doesn't seem to high. The Solar panels I have put out 24-26 volt. I never did understand the 18 volt thing.

    Cheers
    Matt

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  • nvisser
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    No ,I tried to get as near as possible to a solar array. All I had was a notebook power supply of 20V!!. A bit high

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