Barbosa and Leal Devices - Info and Replication Details

[wantomake]

Still here

Clarence,
Woke up to rain here. Very much needed. Grass is brown. Noticed some cows lounging around on chairs sipping lemonade next to a pool cause there's nothing but hay to eat.

I did try some different loop and coil configurations yesterday just to test some ideas. Nothing worthy to post happened. Placed the primary only toroid(call it"B") in the loop with the coil ("A")and noticed the amps (on the loop)drop to zero if there's no load or short across "B". With "B" loaded or shorted the amperage reads 65~70 Amps in the loop. Big question mark there.

Hope all goes well with your tests and trials.

Coffee in hand, sipping on rainy front porch,
Life is good.
wantomake

[clarence]

Progress made with two toroid method

Clarence,
Woke up to rain here. Very much needed. Grass is brown. Noticed some cows lounging around on chairs sipping lemonade next to a pool cause there's nothing but hay to eat.

I did try some different loop and coil configurations yesterday just to test some ideas. Nothing worthy to post happened. Placed the primary only toroid(call it"B") in the loop with the coil ("A")and noticed the amps (on the loop)drop to zero if there's no load or short across "B". With "B" loaded or shorted the amperage reads 65~70 Amps in the loop. Big question mark there.

Hope all goes well with your tests and trials.

Coffee in hand, sipping on rainy front porch,
Life is good.
wantomake

Wantomake,

Did make some progress and gain some noteworthy knowledge at the same time using the two toroid opposing face to face method.

With the two wraps strictly around the primary windings and NOT around the
open CORE body at all (that's a NO! NO!) using # 12 gauge stranded wire
I got a reading of Twenty AC volts from either end of the wraps back to toroid Line input. It didn't make a damn which end you measured from back to AC line input it always measures the same. That is because the two toroids are opposite faced making each of the ends IN PHASE with each other.
So no problem hooking both ends together and using that joint connection as the neutral for a load terminal with the hot lead to the two toroids as the
line input for loads.
made the loop connection as the schemo shows but haven't got into that yet.

Since the two wraps only produced 20 volts that means each of the wraps gives 10 volts AC neutral output. In a nut shell I have to redo and make a total of 12 wraps on each of the toroid primary winds - this will give me 120 volts to work with and get on with trials involving the ground connection.

Busy farm day today moving bulls back to their separate pasture zones, their entertainment of the ladies is over till next summer!

Off and on rain here and hot.

Later J,

Clarence

[clarence]

A pot of gold --hopefully

[QUOTE=wantomake;

Hope all goes well with your tests and trials.

Coffee in hand, sipping on rainy front porch,
Life is good.
wantomake[/QUOTE]

Wantomake,

After four years of work now I am almost speechless. I really don't know how to put it all into words. NOT joking Brother!

I re-worked the two single primary only toroids in their face to face confrontation and did the 13 wraps with the #12 AWG stranded wire as I said I was going to do, and put the setup together again. I thought that many wraps would give 120 volt output but it didn't - only increased up to 50 + AC volts. Turns out that was plenty enough. Hooked everything in place and took
the ground return into consideration this time.

Bro, to save a whole lot of time and words, THE WHOLE SOB DOES WHAT IT WAS SAID IT COULD DO!

I have Had it pulling energy from the ground up tp 9.8AMPS. all of this while the KAW meter only shows 0.07 amps supplied from the mains and at 5.4 watts. At first I thought it was a faulty KAW so I dug out the others and tried
Four more of them - they all read the same. I have run a floor fan, my microwave, my smart charger charging my battery banks, all at the same time - still NO CHANGE ON THE INPUT FROM THE MAINs- 0.07 amps at 5.4 watts. I was just standing there dumbfounded.
All this time the # 12 wraps on the toroid only showed .5 amps with never changing!.

Couldn't find any more things to run at one time so I just left it running my Smart Charger and came and sat down,

To shocked to take any Photos for now but may get to it tonight .
Drink some for me,

Clarence

[clarence]

Trials

Wantomake,

After four years of work now I am almost speechless. I really don't know how to put it all into words. NOT joking Brother!

I re-worked the two single primary only toroids in their face to face confrontation and did the 13 wraps with the #12 AWG stranded wire as I said I was going to do, and put the setup together again. I thought that many wraps would give 120 volt output but it didn't - only increased up to 50 + AC volts. Turns out that was plenty enough. Hooked everything in place and took
the ground return into consideration this time.

Bro, to save a whole lot of time and words, THE WHOLE SOB DOES WHAT IT WAS SAID IT COULD DO!

I have Had it pulling energy from the ground up tp 9.8AMPS. all of this while the KAW meter only shows 0.07 amps supplied from the mains and at 5.4 watts. At first I thought it was a faulty KAW so I dug out the others and tried
Four more of them - they all read the same. I have run a floor fan, my microwave, my smart charger charging my battery banks, all at the same time - still NO CHANGE ON THE INPUT FROM THE MAINs- 0.07 amps at 5.4 watts. I was just standing there dumbfounded.
All this time the # 12 wraps on the toroid only showed .5 amps with never changing!.

Couldn't find any more things to run at one time so I just left it running my Smart Charger and came and sat down,

To shocked to take any Photos for now but may get to it tonight .
Drink some for me,

Clarence

Wantomake,

Went and added a lot more Items to some multiport heavy duty AC three way adapters.

Got the amperage draw from the ground up to 18.8 amps with still only 0.07
amperage AC input A 5.4 watts.
The Wind output from the # 12 AWG wraps was still only .5 amps - no heating on toroids at all.

What I want to do is get the amperage draw from the ground Above 20 Amps
which is all the wall plug is rated for and see if it trips or hangs in there. if it doesn't trip and the extension cord powering the toroids is not hot or heated
then that will verify the KAW meter readings of 0.07 amps and 5.4 watts.

EDIT: 18.8 amps out for .07 amps in is quite an increase!

Later,

Clarence

[digits10]

Cool!

Clarence,
Congrats! Glad to hear the success! I'm looking forward to giving it a try myself - after I know how to. Sadly, I wasn't even born a coffee lover

[clarence]

Glad to hear

Clarence,
Congrats! Glad to hear the success! I'm looking forward to giving it a try myself - after I know how to. Sadly, I wasn't even born a coffee lover

Hello digits10,

Glad to hear from you!
Seems like every one else just looked in - said HO HUM! and left.

I just loaded my setup with loads equaling 26 + amps on a wall plug outlet only rated for 20 amps MAX - no breaker trip - no heat in the extension cord from the outlet to the setup at all. Al of the unit parts remained cool cool cool.

So the reading on the Kill-A-Watt meter is valid.
The total energy input is only 0.07 amps @ 5.4 watts.
For that little bit in I just got 26 + amps of actual being used working energy.
That's a lot of difference.

Thanks again for your support!

Respectfully,

Clarence

[BroMikey]

Wantomake,

Went and added a lot more Items to some multiport heavy duty AC three way adapters.

Got the amperage draw from the ground up to 18.8 amps with still only 0.07
amperage AC input A 5.4 watts.
The Wind output from the # 12 AWG wraps was still only .5 amps - no heating on toroids at all.

What I want to do is get the amperage draw from the ground Above 20 Amps
which is all the wall plug is rated for and see if it trips or hangs in there. if it doesn't trip and the extension cord powering the toroids is not hot or heated
then that will verify the KAW meter readings of 0.07 amps and 5.4 watts.

EDIT: 18.8 amps out for .07 amps in is quite an increase!

Later,

Clarence

Hallelujah MY MAIN MAN

Alright looks like a dead ringer Clarence. I hope everything checks out with
no trickles from the grid. I thought you had it last year but that is the
way research goes plus the fact you NEVER give up. You are amazing.

You just get in there with both hands and dig, a winner.

I would be easy to lose that connection diagram with so many tries.



@wantomake
You have been a good follower, hope yours does as well.

[clarence]

Photos tomorrow pm for those who care

Hallelujah MY MAIN MAN

Alright looks like a dead ringer Clarence. I hope everything checks out with
no trickles from the grid. I thought you had it last year but that is the
way research goes plus the fact you NEVER give up. You are amazing.

You just get in there with both hands and dig, a winner.

I would be easy to lose that connection diagram with so many tries.



@wantomake
You have been a good follower, hope yours does as well.

Hello BRO,

Yes , it finally happened. At times today when I would just keep adding load after load to bring the amperage from the ground return up as high as I could get it and all at the input of about a NIGHT LITE in V/A I would just look and stare in amazement. At times I was excited enough to start some small trembling. It's really amazing.

When I was running a floor fan, the microwave heating water on the high setting, a large shop vac, A Tripplite PR 30 powering an inverter with a 100 watt light, and also powering my Xantrex True Charger 2 and it charging my two battery banks - all with only 0.07 amp input at 5 watt and the Amperage coming from the ground reading 26+ amps - OMG!

I had to go and sit down for awhile and just be still.

All the components in the setup ran very cool also.

Thanks for your kind remarks BRO!

EDIT: Also bro I could tell by the items that were being used as loads that it should be no problem to use this setup in a battery inverter form. (IMHOP)

Respectfully,

Clarence

[fer123]

Congra

Hello Clarence, congratulation again, after reading your success post I have run to tell my wife about you and how hard you work for It and how proud I am of you, hope you open a good champaign bottle for celebration. Best for you .

[BroMikey]

My My, get some rest we got to have you in one piece to verify
the long slow process. Nice work. When you can let us know how
many ground rods it took on this new setup.

[FRANKLIN]

very well done Clarence!!!

Hello BRO,

Yes , it finally happened. At times today when I would just keep adding load after load to bring the amperage from the ground return up as high as I could get it and all at the input of about a NIGHT LITE in V/A I would just look and stare in amazement. At times I was excited enough to start some small trembling. It's really amazing.

When I was running a floor fan, the microwave heating water on the high setting, a large shop vac, A Tripplite PR 30 powering an inverter with a 100 watt light, and also powering my Xantrex True Charger 2 and it charging my two battery banks - all with only 0.07 amp input at 5 watt and the Amperage coming from the ground reading 26+ amps - OMG!

I had to go and sit down for awhile and just be still.




All the components in the setup ran very cool also.

Thanks for your kind remarks BRO!

EDIT: Also bro I could tell by the items that were being used as loads that it should be no problem to use this setup in a battery inverter form. (IMHOP)

Respectfully,

Clarence

Hello Clarence!

I understood you got a new set up for this device
Congratulations!!
hope you can share with me also your results

thanks

[wantomake]

No internet!!!

Hello BRO,

Yes , it finally happened. At times today when I would just keep adding load after load to bring the amperage from the ground return up as high as I could get it and all at the input of about a NIGHT LITE in V/A I would just look and stare in amazement. At times I was excited enough to start some small trembling. It's really amazing.

When I was running a floor fan, the microwave heating water on the high setting, a large shop vac, A Tripplite PR 30 powering an inverter with a 100 watt light, and also powering my Xantrex True Charger 2 and it charging my two battery banks - all with only 0.07 amp input at 5 watt and the Amperage coming from the ground reading 26+ amps - OMG!

I had to go and sit down for awhile and just be still.

All the components in the setup ran very cool also.

Thanks for your kind remarks BRO!

EDIT: Also bro I could tell by the items that were being used as loads that it should be no problem to use this setup in a battery inverter form. (IMHOP)

Respectfully,

Clarence

Clarence,
There's been no internet because of the storms today. This is first I've seen this great news!!!!

And who are all these people all of sudden?

I think all i need is to rewind the coil to match the untouched primary only toroid. The loop around the two will be no problem.

So what made it happen? You said pulling amps from the ground grid? Crap I missed all the excitement today.

Anyway to get any pics tonight or early am? I'll get caught up then help you here cause posters will have many questions I'm sure.

Sorry ole friend this wasn't me this time,
wantomake

[clarence]

[QUOTE=clarence;

Clarence[/QUOTE]

Hello @ Wantomake,
&
Hello @ ALL,

Had to un-litter my cart setup with all the load items I was running at one time so I could clear the way to take some photos tomorrow afternoon.
It won't be until the afternoon till the new correct GDT's for the safety - over voltage lightning protection feature come in. that was also a part of this devise. The patent issue requires such a feature so you may as well have it in yours also.

The whole thing is really VERY simple and follows one of their basic patent illustrations.
You will notice a difference in the method I connected the ground returnto the setup also. Basically the same and surely works so that's the way I will keep it.

Cooked my supper in the microwave using this system and that was a real thrill this time. 0.07 amps used to cook with 16.5 amps doing the real work! NICE!

Wantomake - I mentioned earlier that this same system can be used as a battery/inverter system - however I believe there will be a need for a one rod voltage input from the inverter to be able to receive any and all energy from the ground. If I remember right I believe you already have that done.
And then maybe it won't be necessary at all. That's your department.

Enough for one day.

Goodnight to All,

Clarence

[clarence]

Already knew you were having problems!

Clarence,
There's been no internet because of the storms today. This is first I've seen this great news!!!!

And who are all these people all of sudden?

I think all i need is to rewind the coil to match the untouched primary only toroid. The loop around the two will be no problem.

So what made it happen? You said pulling amps from the ground grid? Crap I missed all the excitement today.

Anyway to get any pics tonight or early am? I'll get caught up then help you here cause posters will have many questions I'm sure.

Sorry ole friend this wasn't me this time,
wantomake

Wantomake ,

Dear ole friend , I already knew that you were having trouble of some kind - so don't fret.

No pics until late tomorrow afternoon. The setup is completely different from what you have seen before - BUT - it is exactly like the patent illustration.

When you see the pics I will EXPECT you to get right back on the horn and ask as MANY questions as you want and need.
Not only will the answers help YOU but also ALL the other members too.

You talk about a NICE grown up toy to work with - this thing will blow your mind away!

I had even considered going to my sons shop and dragging his small AC welder over to my house and adding it to the loads I was running. I wanted to get to 30 amps or more to push the limit but I only reached 26 + amps from the Ground.

Lots more I could say ole friend but I have wore this day out for now.

Later J,

Clarence

[FRANKLIN]

hi

Wantomake ,

Dear ole friend , I already knew that you were having trouble of some kind - so don't fret.

No pics until late tomorrow afternoon. The setup is completely different from what you have seen before - BUT - it is exactly like the patent illustration.

When you see the pics I will EXPECT you to get right back on the horn and ask as MANY questions as you want and need.
Not only will the answers help YOU but also ALL the other members too.

You talk about a NICE grown up toy to work with - this thing will blow your mind away!

I had even considered going to my sons shop and dragging his small AC welder over to my house and adding it to the loads I was running. I wanted to get to 30 amps or more to push the limit but I only reached 26 + amps from the Ground.

Lots more I could say ole friend but I have wore this day out for now.

Later J,

Clarence

good to hear,
we look forward to hear your results clarence

great
thanks