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  • sucahyo
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    Originally posted by Aaron View Post
    That sounds almost exact to some of the posts in those old websites I referenced that talk about "nitrogen hydroxide."
    I guess I miss your link .

    Taken from different page:
    ORBIT: FUEL SYSTEM NOTES


    Originally posted by Aaron View Post
    They say they brought it out of the closet, from what? WWII German technology, original understanding of Meyer's, etc...?
    It is not what Slovania explain?

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  • Aaron
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    nitrogen hydroxide

    Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
    Interesting .

    With only 12V cell we can achieve molecule cracking !
    That sounds almost exact to some of the posts in those old websites
    I referenced that talk about "nitrogen hydroxide."

    They say they brought it out of the closet, from what? WWII German
    technology, original understanding of Meyer's, etc...?

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  • sucahyo
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    Originally posted by tutanka View Post
    Casually I have read today D18 pdf and joe cell.. My attention has gone on these words on D18 pdf...
    Interesting .

    The truth of the matter is that nobody really knows why this system works, it just does. This is a totally unconventional system . It shouldn't work but it does. The more vacuum pulled on the chamber, the more fuel gas output. The more vacuum pulled on the chamber, the more nitrogen is needed and it is drawing into the chamber through an air inlet valve on the end plate as needed. Something about the electrolytic action on the water and salt mix, magnetic action of the wire coil and vacuum serve to speed up the reaction process. These various actions are reacting on the water and salt mixture which is causing outside nitrogen from the atmosphere to want to enter the cell and react with the water and salt mixture forming nitrogen hydroxide, the fuel gas referred to here. The magnetic wire wrap helps strip gas bobbles from the anode and cathode of the chamber so that more gas bubbles can be produced. As I said, we don't know why this works, it just does. We did not invent this technology but we have brought it out of the closet again, so that it can be enjoyed and replicated if desired.
    With only 12V cell we can achieve molecule cracking !

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  • Aaron
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    process

    Originally posted by tutanka View Post
    what is the sense of that configuration? and final chemical reaction?? Merlino I'm only Regards
    There are quite a few steps to the reaction I think and needs
    enough time to take place.

    Different people with results have different view of reaction but everyone
    with results have one thing in common, ammonia is eventually created
    as a part of the process.

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  • Slovenia
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    D18 pdf and jo cell..

    Originally posted by tutanka View Post
    Casually I have read today D18 pdf and joe cell.. My attention has gone on these words on D18 pdf...

    " Let me remind you that during the initial testing, the air intake needle valve is closed completely and it is not eased open untlil the engine is running satisfactory. In the engine acclimatisation period, the engine should be run on it's normal fuel and the cell just used as a booster"

    And I have understand, from these words, that car using that cell run every thanks to NH3 not N(OH)2 or orgone..

    In fact hydrogen produced trought electrolisys is absorbed from SS316L internal cylinder and ONLY after "acclimatisation period" air valve is open.. positive field and electromagnetic field start an reaction from air (nitrogen) and hydrogen on metal reacts creating NH3.. These cells are old's but inventor had good intuition and use SS316L similarry to metal hydride for absorb hydrogen.. No orgone .. no N(OH)2 only NH3+ FUEL. That's all
    Tutanka,

    A group of us worked with Oz Nitro Cell / D18 for about three or so years and were unable to get it to work. I've always been convinced that it was a working system but some fact must have been left out because we were never able to get it to work satisfactorily. My original contact in Australia worked for a small factory that sold them in Oz until they were told by the government to stop selling them. Also, my contact said he was always being harassed by government types each time he responded back to my posts. He was a great guy but I'm convinced he left some details out so as to insure his well being. I'd be happy to tell you anything you want to know about them. If you think you can figure out what details were left out so that we can get them to work, that would be great. Thanks. When we couldn't get the D18 to work we went on to the Joe Cell. I finally got my cell to run ice cold but was unable to get it to help run my motor. I did notice some very strange qualities about the Joe cell however. It seemed to have a mind of it's own and could make you feel very sick if the polarity of the plates was wrong. I learned a lot about them too. When I finally got one to run cold on the bench, it made a difference in the way I felt. It seemed to energize me and make me feel very well and happy. I seemed to have a lot of energy too. When I would walk by the cell I could feel some sort of energy coming from it to me. It was a very strange thing indeed.

    Best Regards,
    Slovenia

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  • tutanka
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    Originally posted by Aaron View Post
    I'm not saying this is 100% accurate, just general idea of
    air + water into intake and possibly some exhaust recycling.

    what is the sense of that configuration? and final chemical reaction?? Merlino I'm only Regards
    Last edited by tutanka; 02-16-2010, 10:35 PM.

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  • tutanka
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    D18 pdf and jo cell..

    Casually I have read today D18 pdf and joe cell.. My attention has gone on these words on D18 pdf...

    " Let me remind you that during the initial testing, the air intake needle valve is closed completely and it is not eased open untlil the engine is running satisfactory. In the engine acclimatisation period, the engine should be run on it's normal fuel and the cell just used as a booster"

    And I have understand, from these words, that car using that cell run every thanks to NH3 not N(OH)2 or orgone..

    In fact hydrogen produced trought electrolisys is absorbed from SS316L internal cylinder and ONLY after "acclimatisation period" air valve is open.. positive field and electromagnetic field start an reaction from air (nitrogen) and hydrogen on metal reacts creating NH3.. These cells are old's but inventor had good intuition and use SS316L similarry to metal hydride for absorb hydrogen.. No orgone .. no N(OH)2 only NH3+ FUEL. That's all
    Last edited by tutanka; 02-16-2010, 10:32 PM.

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  • pengrove
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    Tutanka is throwing curve balls. The electrons are ejected during the water splitting process. The UV light is causing a hydrogen bond shift.

    The hydrogen must pass through the UV light to bond with the nitrogen.

    And yes I am enlightened literally

    He is using both polarities to create a back flash suppressor, much like Tesla's magnetic disruptor.

    If Tutanka wants to tell me that I am wrong he can do so, but he can not lie, because he is righteous.
    Last edited by pengrove; 02-16-2010, 06:03 AM.

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  • Aaron
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    gas processor

    The gas processor should be the same in concept but I think that only
    strips electrons. Tutanka's uses both polarities in some arrangement and
    may not be exact to the diagram I posted below - what he posted in the
    other thread.

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  • pengrove
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    I would like to see someone make a flash back arrester with an electromagnet.

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  • pengrove
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    Aaron, look at Dynodon64 video at about minute mark 5:40. I would say that the gas gun uses the same principle as the gas processor. I see three electromagnets and tons of Led's. Use your imagination on that one and see what you come up with.

    YouTube - Dynodon64's Channel

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  • Aaron
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    basic idea of water fuel system

    I'm not saying this is 100% accurate, just general idea of
    air + water into intake and possibly some exhaust recycling.

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  • Aaron
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    Steam Electrification

    Thanks, looks different than whats going on here but found whole doc
    in pdf format on this:

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  • Aaron
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    4 stroke with gasoline timing

    This animation is perfectly suited to this thread because for example,
    it can work in a 4 stroke engine with normal gasoline timing and that is
    what this animation is. 4 stroke with typical timing x degrees before TDC.

    So we have waterfuel/air mixture going into intake, piston comes up and
    compresses and then plasma ignition ignites the mix and pushes piston
    down. Of course the exhaust won't be the gray smoke color like in the
    animation but suits the purposes.



    Here's 2 stroke:

    Last edited by Aaron; 02-15-2010, 10:02 PM.

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