Ionization & Water Fuel

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Hi Alex and Aaron

This a little bit difficult to explain on a public forum as Alex has said, he is commited not to give an exposure and I am also under the official secrets act that I signed back when I worked for Marconi in England, once signed it is like a death warrent, it is with you all your life.

@ Aaron, Alex is working on a new engine which creates very high torque which is what is needed to run on this type of fuel. All I can say is as far as a jet engine is concerned, it works, but heat is needed to start the chain off. Now in a piston engine there are a lot of problems such as Alex has said with hydrogen leakage into other parts of the engine, so most of the fuel has to be made in the moment of use in the engine and not before

@ Alex, hope you do not mind me making this post as we both have an interest in this

Mike

[tutanka]

p.s., I'm not interested in high volume hho. I'm interested in high QUALITY
water fuel.

HI Aaron,
I know that

[Aaron]

quality not quantity

p.s., I'm not interested in high volume hho. I'm interested in high QUALITY
water fuel.

[Aaron]

ionization

"HI Aaron,
First of all ... I'm an italian researcher and engineer and sorry I can't have an my thread, I have signed an NDA about that.. However I can explain my idea. Some peoples, including Sebosfato, don't consider that; all are oriented to create an great amount of gas but the gas formed with hydrogen is very volatile and have little molecules, after some tests on standard engines the same result is that gas is lost trought piston rings and valves if send normally trought manifold inlet. For that more companies like BMW was oriented to create direct injection of hydrogen in chambre of combustion. And you have to consider other important point, water gas interact a lot with metals parts inside engine, for that, to peoples orientend to use that gas, I suggest treatment of ceramization of cylinder, head of piston and chambre of combustion. However my studies are oriented to the creation of new molecular mixture that can be used normally inside standard engines. In part is the same concept of Meyer. If you analyze injector you found that in fact is an compact WFC minicell. Air treatment with GP, as previously written, is necessary to start the chain reaction for obtain thermal explosive energy. But method explained from h2opower for me isn't correct .. you have to anaylize the words " thermal explosive energy".. For h2opower only oxygen ionized and destabilized is necessary, mixed with water fog, to create thermal explosive energy.. For that I suggest to all peoples to demand an video that prove that first to spent other moneys for an doubt project."

Just read that,

I have the best oil additive in the world - the only undersurface lubricant
known to man - I'm not worried about wear and tear with water or
anything.

Anyway, "Air treatment with GP, as previously written, is necessary to start the chain reaction for obtain thermal explosive energy."

Yes! That is what I'm saying... ok, so you're using the GP to simply ionize
the air - or maybe not so simple.

So with HHO + ionized air = my preference is the plasma spark ignition.

With a lawnmower test Peter and I did, we started to move to steam
injection and we could advance timing.

Anyway, what is your opinion on the combination of hho and ionized air?

Are you ducting the ionized air before or after the carburetor butterfly?
I don't know if it makes a difference because when in the chamber under
compression, I'm guessing it would be homogenized.

[Aaron]

gas processor

Hi Tutanka,

I'm talking about ionizing steam or moisture in a "gas processor" or maybe just
ionizing the air and mixing that with HHO.

You mention a copper pipe - is the processing of gas happening inside the
pipe then? Between plates or points?

[tutanka]

Tutanka, you yanked your youtube vid. Why?

I have it copies, do you mind if I post it? Others have copies
too as it is easy to copy youtube vids.

You're making hho somehow and are ionizing air and water mixture and
adding them together.

If you're not using copper concentric tubes to produce hho, then
you're using the copper tube for something else.

I have open video for an friend and I have forget to close. Video isn't public, with request I can add friends to see that..

You wrote:

You're making hho somehow and are ionizing air and water mixture and
adding them together.

No, the procedure isn't correct.. as written you don't need more water ..

[Aaron]

video

You're making hho somehow and are ionizing air and water mixture and
adding them together.

If you're not using copper concentric tubes to produce hho, then
you're using the copper tube for something else.

[Aaron]

ionization

Tutanka, you are ionizing water vapor and adding it to hho.

[Aaron]

gp

Tutanka, gp as in the after cell processor of what to do with the
gas after it has been made?

[Aaron]

gp

Does ozone have anything to do with what you're doing?

[tutanka]

Beautiful motor Tutanka...
YouTube - mammasat's Channel

Any diagrams or schematics?

I looked back at some posts. You mentioned copper tubes.
Are you using 2 concentric copper tubes? If so, what is
the gap?

HI,
About copper tubes.. you refer to GP?
About engine.. I cant divulgate anything... Sorry

[Aaron]

Beautiful motor Tutanka...
YouTube - mammasat's Channel

Any diagrams or schematics?

I looked back at some posts. You mentioned copper tubes.
Are you using 2 concentric copper tubes? If so, what is
the gap?

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