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  • tutanka
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    Originally posted by Vickers
    [url]http://kiwiingenuity.org/2009/09/23/the-smitkin-engine/
    Only description.. photo isn't available...

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  • tutanka
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    Originally posted by Oneminde View Post
    Then use this tread, Puharich's patent and also Meyers Canadian Injector patent in relationship. Reading up on the Air Gas Processor should also help to get a general understanding - not to copy, but to understand, not that these are the only method to manufacture ammonia, but it is a start and should soon be obvious what is going on and why.

    Yes yes, there are more then just ammonia, ammonia is part of the so called fuel mixture but not the only "molecule" that perform during combustion.

    PS; What do you see now?
    Last edited by tutanka; 03-30-2010, 12:34 PM.

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  • aljhoa
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    Tutanka,
    once there were claims that Tetrazine C2H2N4 formed under plasma discharge.

    In post 90243 you are stating that
    Originally posted by tutanka View Post
    THERMAL EXPLOSIVE ENERGY is effectively released from final reaction..
    In the following post you are implying that deflagration is taking place thus formed fuel heats nitrogen and combustion byproducts.
    Originally posted by tutanka View Post
    The angle of ignition is the same of gasoline, problem is energy discharge
    On a small budget it is not possible to confirm what reactions occurred inside the cylinder therefore, do you have and are willing to share the crank angle versus cylinder pressure chart as a function of your variables?

    Thanks
    Al

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  • Oneminde
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    Originally posted by HairBear View Post
    Ah! Puharich! Very interesting! I thought that molecule drawing looked familiar...
    Then use this tread, Puharich's patent and also Meyers Canadian Injector patent in relationship. Reading up on the Air Gas Processor should also help to get a general understanding - not to copy, but to understand, not that these are the only method to manufacture ammonia, but it is a start and should soon be obvious what is going on and why.

    Yes yes, there are more then just ammonia, ammonia is part of the so called fuel mixture but not the only "molecule" that perform during combustion.

    PS; What do you see now?

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  • HairBear
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    Ah! Puharich! Very interesting! I thought that molecule drawing looked familiar...

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  • Oneminde
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    Originally posted by tutanka View Post
    Now are two the mysteries You are incredible... and for your info.. I don't need to read you.. you have to read me when all is ready...
    I do actually write to other members also but it is nice to know that you are ready with your system.
    So what is the "mysteries" in my post? and no, you do not need to read my post's.

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  • tutanka
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    Originally posted by Vickers
    Tutanka? Smitkin engine?
    Smitkin engine? Sorry explain better....

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  • tutanka
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    Originally posted by Oneminde View Post
    Thank you for that kind insult, but no, that was not the intention with that image, but something entirly different. There is more to it then just a refferance patent - but if you (members) read this, you will be closer.
    There is also another reason why I posted this... let's see if anyone besides Tutanka can mention this.
    Now are two the mysteries You are incredible... and for your info.. I don't need to read you.. you have to read me when all is ready...
    Last edited by tutanka; 03-29-2010, 02:41 PM.

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  • Oneminde
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    Originally posted by tutanka View Post
    WOW.. Congratulations oneminde with that you have solved the mistery
    Thank you for that kind insult, but no, that was not the intention with that image, but something entirly different. There is more to it then just a refferance patent - but if you (members) read this, you will be closer.
    There is also another reason why I posted this... let's see if anyone besides Tutanka can mention this.

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  • tutanka
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    Originally posted by Oneminde View Post
    Look @ this image.
    WOW.. Congratulations oneminde with that you have explain the meyer secret

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  • tutanka
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    Originally posted by chasson321 View Post


    Can you spell it out for us the reactions as they take place and how you are achieving thermo explosive energy? This shouldn't give any secrets away for we wont know the process but it will show how you think Stan system works for us all to view.

    Again just trying to understand your point of view.

    Tim
    Tim,
    Sorry I can't ... If I write chemical reactions in fact I explain system.. You need to wait an little .. we are working hard on that.. some news about that

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  • Oneminde
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    Look @ this image.
    Last edited by Oneminde; 04-10-2010, 12:53 AM.

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  • tutanka
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    Hello,
    The angle of ignition is the same of gasoline, problem is energy discharge that must be not low and plug can be destroyed if you don't use tungsten. Maybe exist other method for obtain same result with low energy and normal plugs .. Regards
    Last edited by tutanka; 03-29-2010, 05:58 AM.

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  • sucahyo
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    Originally posted by chasson321 View Post
    Second question is given such a short time frame can any of you show the events as they take place for all of us for I am sure I am not the only one with questions so I can see what you are purposing works?
    I am not that good of calculating energy. The closest answer I can provide is this graph:
    source is a document from http://www.energy.iastate.edu/renewa...ia/ammonia.htm


    The input electricity will ionize the ambient air and the water. There is additional "free" heat input from exhaust temperature or radiator. From the graph the power should be close to gasoline.

    Originally posted by chasson321 View Post
    He added in NH3 fuel.
    NH3 was once a fuel for vehicle too even if it half energy according to h20power. The problem is if we can make it on board in the range of 15% to 25% ratio with air.


    for cracking temperature:
    Philippe B. de l'Arc - Histoire de la voiture electrique
    Last edited by sucahyo; 03-29-2010, 08:32 AM.

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  • sucahyo
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    That is gold .

    Originally posted by Vickers
    Alcohol flame = CO2 + Nitrogen. Hydrogen flame = H20 + Nitrogen. I cant see a water drain. If your trying to make a gas safer than natural gas y use one non combustable when u can have two?
    Wrong, alcohol flame also produce water.

    Ethanol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Complete combustion of ethanol forms carbon dioxide and water:
    When people talk about water in the WFC system, it not need to be in liquid. Water often take form as vapor when form as result of flaming. Do not need water drain. Normal car produce water vapor too.

    From what I read so far, WFC need carbon as lubrication, not as ethanol maker. If you use it as part as the fuel, you don't call it water fuel.

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