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  • gmeast
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    oscillator.

    Originally posted by jstadwater View Post
    Thanks Greg for the info.

    I also used a IR laser for temp, I got about 118 degrees F at the hottest spot on the sinks. No where near the 200 C, but I was only firing one plug in the pressure chamber at that point. The little gold 180 ohm resistors got about 145 F, the spec on the package says they are good to 2,500 C. The rest of the components never went above 90's F, including the transformer. I am using 4 of the 3055's instead of just two. I have only digital meters to measure the circuit, so I don't know how close I can get on current draw and watts and such. If I go QUAD on my voltage multiplier, I won't even be able to tell how many volts I will have. My meter only goes to 600VDC, I'm 10V under that now! Tomorrow is another day for testing, later......................Mike


    That's all very great news. I have not had as much as a burp or f_r_ from my oscillator. It's performed flawlessly. Yours will do the same. I have ordered the plugs from the site you linked to. Thanks.

    Peace,

    Greg
    Last edited by gmeast; 12-01-2008, 03:02 AM.

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  • jstadwater
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    Thanks Greg for the info.

    I also used a IR laser for temp, I got about 118 degrees F at the hottest spot on the sinks. No where near the 200 C, but I was only firing one plug in the pressure chamber at that point. The little gold 180 ohm resistors got about 145 F, the spec on the package says they are good to 2,500 C. The rest of the components never went above 90's F, including the transformer. I am using 4 of the 3055's instead of just two. I have only digital meters to measure the circuit, so I don't know how close I can get on current draw and watts and such. If I go QUAD on my voltage multiplier, I won't even be able to tell how many volts I will have. My meter only goes to 600VDC, I'm 10V under that now! Tomorrow is another day for testing, later......................Mike


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  • gmeast
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    heat sinks

    Mike,

    I read the temp of the heat sink...not the transistor. I think the shininess of the transistor gives a false reading. The heat sinks are black ... good ? bad ? ... don't know.

    Greg

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  • gmeast
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    transistor sinks

    Originally posted by jstadwater View Post
    Hey Guys,

    Tested the new power supply. 192VAC output on it's own, voltage tripler circuit charges caps to 590VDC. I now have an even stronger plasma spark than using 450VDC before the new power supply. I will post more data as I obtain it. I'm thinking about making the Voltage tripler into a QUAD and lowering the capacitance even further than the 2.5uF I'm using now. I had the circuit hooked up to the lawn tractor a few minutes ago and noticed a higher rpm increase and even smoother running than with yesterday's 450V output. SO, that says the higher voltage is releasing more usable energy in the cylinder. The testing continues.........................................

    @ GREG

    Could you give me a few temperature readings from the transistors and resistors in your power supply box for comparison? I didn't have anything to use for heat sinks on the transistors except for computer processor sinks, I ordered 12 of the ones you said from Mouser. They should be here soon.

    Thanks............................................ ..Mike

    Hi Mike,

    The spec sheet says you're allowed 200 Deg C. Mine run at 60 - 80 C reading with an Fluke 561 IR thermometer. As the power draw goes up, the 3055's cool down #@&*% ... ?. As they get hotter their efficiency drops and they'll really heat up and pop. So go for short runs or closely monitor the temp. It's no biggie ... those transistors are cheap but it's the time to swap them out. If you're like me, you have plenty on hand. Glad you got your oscillator working ... pretty cool!

    Greg

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  • jstadwater
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    Hey Guys,

    Tested the new power supply. 192VAC output on it's own, voltage tripler circuit charges caps to 590VDC. I now have an even stronger plasma spark than using 450VDC before the new power supply. I will post more data as I obtain it. I'm thinking about making the Voltage tripler into a QUAD and lowering the capacitance even further than the 2.5uF I'm using now. I had the circuit hooked up to the lawn tractor a few minutes ago and noticed a higher rpm increase and even smoother running than with yesterday's 450V output. SO, that says the higher voltage is releasing more usable energy in the cylinder. The testing continues.........................................

    @ GREG

    Could you give me a few temperature readings from the transistors and resistors in your power supply box for comparison? I didn't have anything to use for heat sinks on the transistors except for computer processor sinks, I ordered 12 of the ones you said from Mouser. They should be here soon.

    Thanks............................................ ..Mike

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  • jstadwater
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    Hey Greg,

    Yes, the Champion L76V plugs are non-resistor type. I was quite......surprised (I won't say "shocked", you know.....bad experience) at how much better the plasma event was when I swapped to these plugs.

    I think you are onto something there with the "real-time" hydroxy gas production. I have been thinking along those lines for a while, and have also been working on a steam injection system for our Suburban. There is NO reason to think that this plasma ignition couldn't split the molecules instantly and easily from a steam state, and any hydroxy produced would instantaneously ignite in the cylinder.

    Well, I'm about to test out the new power supply, with the "tripler" to supercharge the event. Later............................Mike

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  • gmeast
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    Hydroxy

    Originally posted by ashtweth View Post
    Man..all the GEET guys now are doing the plasma thanks to you Rev Over at the Vortex heat exchanger group. We are welding the GEET pipes for the Brigg's tomorrow. So will try you circuit on there. Man Greg that is awesome will up date you guys PDF

    imagine the whole of Indonesia with these GEET/plasma ,. zero emission!!
    Hi Ash,

    Now that I've come down from my 'high', I've had time to think some.

    There is a very high probability that I have been producing an appreciable amount of Hydroxy Gas in real time. That would be one factor that could account for the drastic mileage benefit. You mentioned this in an earlier reply here and it makes allot of sense. I know many have mentioned huge gains with Hydroxy. The combination of Hydroxy coupled with complete combustion by plasma spark could be what's accounted for my test results.

    You might consider including the latter speculation in the update.

    Peace,

    Greg

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  • gmeast
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    plugs

    Originally posted by magnetO View Post
    Hi,

    Champion L76V is NONE-resistor spark plug, and would be a right choice!

    bye
    magnetO
    Hi magnetO,

    Thank you for taking the time to verify this. Thanks for your interest.

    Peace,

    Greg

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  • magnetO
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    L76V is NONE-resistor plug

    Originally posted by gmeast View Post
    Hi Mike,

    These are resistor plugs, right? Do you have trick / tips for making the resistorless?

    Thanks in advance,

    Greg

    Hi,

    Champion L76V is NONE-resistor spark plug, and would be a right choice!

    bye
    magnetO

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  • ashtweth
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    Thank Bro...i would of blown up circuit other wise

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  • revizal
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    Originally posted by ashtweth View Post

    We are welding the GEET pipes for the Brigg's tomorrow. So will try you circuit on there.
    Thanks Ash,

    Do not forget to add diodes string infront of your original ignition, because it won't work like a distributor equipped. I mean, just use Tero's Plasma Circuit (like done on my Motorcycle circuit) for one cylinder engine which switching by magneto instead of distributor equipped.

    Goodluck,

    Rev.

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  • ashtweth
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    Man..all the GEET guys now are doing the plasma thanks to you Rev Over at the Vortex heat exchanger group. We are welding the GEET pipes for the Brigg's tomorrow. So will try you circuit on there. Man Greg that is awesome will up date you guys PDF

    imagine the whole of Indonesia with these GEET/plasma ,. zero emission!!

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  • revizal
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    GEET+Plasma Catalityc Converter Setup

    All,

    I just made a series test introducing plasma (as catalityc fuel reformer) into GEET engine. My genset supply with 100% gasoline from a carburetor and runs on original ignition (magneto). I used two kind of setups:
    1. Plasma is introducing infront of the reactor (after the carburetor).
    Result ==> Plasma didnot worked caused of mist gasoline from carburetor make spark plug wet (only about 5 sparks appear from discharging 47 uF Cap)
    2. Plasma is introducing after the reactor (before fresh air mix valve).
    Result ==> Plasma still didnot worked with the same reason.

    Here below are some pictures.
    I think it need to increase current injection to the Cap (and increase the capacitant also) to make it work at more wetting situation.

    Thank you,

    Rev.

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  • gmeast
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    resistor

    Originally posted by jstadwater View Post
    Hey Greg,

    The plugs I use are also M14 X 1.25! Here is the Champion part number, L76V. Here is also the link to the Champion website to order them:

    One bad sparkplug

    I attached a pic of my plug beside a tape measure, if the reach of your plug is about a half inch..........problem solved! It looks like the same number of threads in your pic. I think you'll like the better plasma these things make.

    ...............................Mike
    Hi Mike,

    These are resistor plugs, right? Do you have trick / tips for making the resistorless?

    Thanks in advance,

    Greg

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  • gmeast
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    spark plug

    Originally posted by jstadwater View Post
    Hey Greg,

    The plugs I use are also M14 X 1.25! Here is the Champion part number, L76V. Here is also the link to the Champion website to order them:

    One bad sparkplug

    I attached a pic of my plug beside a tape measure, if the reach of your plug is about a half inch..........problem solved! It looks like the same number of threads in your pic. I think you'll like the better plasma these things make.

    I heated the deisel fuel to 125 degrees F and it made MUCH more fog than at 75 degrees! Now let's semi-GEET this thing and make some SERIOUS fog!



    @JETIJS

    Nice box dude! Cool vid too, that's ALLOT more fog with gasoline than water! I had a similar idea, push the fog to the intake. I can position the tube close to the intake at a point to only get "vacuum-pull" at higher throttle. At lower throttle, I'm letting my HHO booster push the fog to the intake. More tests coming....................................Mike
    Hi Mike,

    Thank you very much. You have save me much time and frustration !

    Mine looks just like the picture.

    Thanks again,

    Greg

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