Bedini Ferris Wheel Regauging Motor

[John_K]

Brent,

Yes, this is what I'm seeing and you are in the right track.

And no, the Ferris Wheel does not use superpoles.

Now you have done the experiment, try and map out the fields. Also think about where the energy comes from to charge the magnets.


John K.

John K,

I just tried it, but with a ceramic magnet and a neo magnet...

Interesting!

S (ceramic) to S (neo) it goes right in the middle and dislikes the edges, but S (cermic) to N (neo) it pushes to the edges and doesn't like the middle.

Strange! Is this what you are seeing?

My question is this: Is a super pole magnet the same as a scalar magnet? My understanding is that scalar is two north poles forced together to create a north beam. And what we are discussing on the "Bedini Ferris Wheel" is super pole magnets, right?


Thanks, Brent

[BrentA929]

John K,

I just tried it, but with a ceramic magnet and a neo magnet...

Interesting!

S (ceramic) to S (neo) it goes right in the middle and dislikes the edges, but S (cermic) to N (neo) it pushes to the edges and doesn't like the middle.

Strange! Is this what you are seeing?

My question is this: Is a super pole magnet the same as a scalar magnet? My understanding is that scalar is two north poles forced together to create a north beam. And what we are discussing on the "Bedini Ferris Wheel" is super pole magnets, right?


Thanks, Brent

Hi All,

I had an interesting observation last night. I was working on placing the small neo on the back of the ferrite magnet. After double checking the polarity of each magnet I found that the neo did not want to sit in the middle of the ferrite. If I let it sit where it wanted to, it would move to the edge of the ferrite.

I think I know why it does this. Anyone else want to take a stab at the answer? The answer will tell you why John B did it this way. And confirm what he is trying to teach us.


John K.

[Aaron]

magnet

If I let it sit where it wanted to, it would move to the edge of the ferrite.

Looks like it knows where to go.

[Turion]

Got to be because of the shape of the magnetic field of the super magnet. The neo alters that shape somewhat because of it's own strong magnetic field

[John_K]

Interesting Observation

Hi All,

I had an interesting observation last night. I was working on placing the small neo on the back of the ferrite magnet. After double checking the polarity of each magnet I found that the neo did not want to sit in the middle of the ferrite. If I let it sit where it wanted to, it would move to the edge of the ferrite.

I think I know why it does this. Anyone else want to take a stab at the answer? The answer will tell you why John B did it this way. And confirm what he is trying to teach us.


John K.

[Turion]

Found a place just north of me in Alameda, CA that makes aluminum wheels for those crazy bicycles that have the huge wheel in front and the tiny wheel in the back. They are called high wheel bicycles. They come in 48, 50, 52, 54, 56, 58 and 60". I talked to one of their shop guys and told him I just want the wheel. They are supposed to call me back and I will let you know pricing when I have it. Their number is 510-769-0980. Update: price for the 60" wheel is about $800.00. It comes with two 5/8 bolt stubs, one on each side of the wheel to secure it to the frame. It means you would need bearings with 5/8 center hole. He also sells just the rim, which would be about $200. I guess this isn't the way most will go because of price, but at least you have the info.

[Turion]

John,
When I replicate something, I try to build it exactly. Change nothing. Not the gauge of wire or even the COLOR. That way I can follow pictures and not worry about mistakes. When I get it done and running perfectly, THEN I can incorporate all my brilliant (?) ideas one at a time and see what difference they make. The only reason I asked about size is that my basement shop is about 8 by 10 feet (It would make you laugh, all the crap and tools I have crammed in there) If I could replicate your wheel to size, I absolutely would, regardless of time or money. But with the space I have, I cannot. So I want to make it as big as I NEED to make it. With that said, I will shoot for a four foot diameter wheel as I can get two of those out of a 4x8 sheet of acrylic or plywood, and have room to construct the framework. I am actually going to bolt the bottom of the frame to the cement floor and attach the top to the floor joists of the room above me, so the wheel will be right up against one wall and take up little space, except wall space. Thanks for your help and for all the contributions you have made here. They are valued beyond measure.

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

John K
Was that your kitchen table top? Brilliant idea. My wife has one in my garage that she wants to mozaic. It is made out of some dark expensive wood I think and it's only taking up space. I will have to negotiate with her!
Vissie

Vissie, paint the magnets Red and Blue, then create a klidascope image on the table. Tell her you'll be able to produce an additional effect by getting it rotating. This will allow you to get all of the additional parts such as coils, bearings, etc. She'll understand.

Jeff

[John_K]

John K
Was that your kitchen table top? Brilliant idea. My wife has one in my garage that she wants to mozaic. It is made out of some dark expensive wood I think and it's only taking up space. I will have to negotiate with her!
Vissie

Hi Vissie,

No it was a table I bought on eBay for $10 a while ago. I was saving it for the right project to come along. I had a thicker one but my wife sold it on me


John K.

[nvisser]

John K
Was that your kitchen table top? Brilliant idea. My wife has one in my garage that she wants to mozaic. It is made out of some dark expensive wood I think and it's only taking up space. I will have to negotiate with her!
Vissie

[John_K]

I'm still quietly working away in the evenings and re-reading the what John has already posted on this thread. There is a lot to take in, but having said that my head has stopped spinning and I think I "get it" now. I have learned enough that I can confidently build this and know what I am building, at least enough to get some good results before figuring out the next step.

I think I have figured out how John is dumping the cap without any external power. I'm not going to give it away easily because I haven't figured out exactly how I'll do it but I'm pretty sure I know where he is getting the power from to do the switching. John gave away a great clue in an earlier post that I re-read today. Hint: he made a DVD of it. So I hope that makes some people go and re-read what John posted already.

If time permits I will have something presentable by the end of the weekend that is running and charging the heck out of the batteries for very little input. It will be a 4' 16 pole monopole rotor, single coil with steel plate to shape the fields, 1/2 bipolar Bedini/Cole switch, cap pulser (hopefully with free switching).
John won't mind if I go digital on him for the cap pulser, because it doesn't take much power to run a 555 or a PIC. Even a SG3524N or similar PWM doesn't chew up much if you want to stay analog. When you can get free switching it doesn't really matter how you do it, there are many ways - now where is that cat?

Let's show John that he has taught us something and we have not wasted his time. I'm pretty sure everything we need to know has already been posted. Time to get to work and post some progress.


John K.

Turion,
Yes I did say that, what did I say, That your not going to do this with a roller-skate wheel. The machine is very big I would have liked to make it much bigger. The batteries I used were equivalent to 9v transistor radio battery on that machine.

No body is stopping anybody from building this machine. I let everybody take all the pictures they wanted to I answered what I could. I'm not going to do the work for everybody I encourage people to think for themselves because it's the only way to learn anything.

I have tried many different ways to state what the energy is here and what the machine is. Everybody can see the geometry of the machine. On a small scale I do not think you will get the same results. The monopole always worked like this but it was on a small scale. The coils are what the difference is. Big Coils big output. The machine does not need to go that fast to do the work 20 rpm's is fast enough here. I also encouraged everybody to look at the meters since that is what they want to see, but I guess everybody missed that.

So I will state it again, what it was, 36v 1.8 amps input. output batteries charged to the pin, limit on 2.8 amps float 36 volts. I could have swapped the batteries anytime I wanted to or just plugged an inverter in and sucked off all the power and sent it back to the primary but I ran out of time building the machine I almost did not finish it.

I also warned Rick to not grab the shaft as it would rip the skin off your hand. Forty six foot pounds on that shaft can run many things so you did not even consider that power it all adds together.

Take the big leap of faith and just build it with the knowledge you have it will work like all my toys do. See the way I see it is, it is just a hobby for most people and it does not mean anything, but this is a job to me building machines and chargers and switchers.

The time is coming when we may find everybody without power, that is why I said I'm running out of time. Since it used something like ED's L , Radus type arrangements you need to build small scale to understand how it works, that is why I wanted to test the output switching as Mathew and I-Ron did and they did make it work because of the youtube video's they posted, and I did watch them 5 or 6 times to make sure it was working.

John K also stated you can skin that cat many ways, he is right, what works for me may not work for you. Jerdee has done a wonderful job posting all those drawings, we are all lucky to have him here. He has almost everything right to the "T" in documentation on this machine, Great drawings. I will do my best to keep going on here.
John B

[nenergy]

closed core generator effect

I don't know about you guys but there's tons of videos already made using closed core coils.

A transformer is an easy obtainable closed core coil.
YouTube - Ottawa University Regenerative Acceleration PART1
This video shows a generator running 2 MOT transformers with the difference when the 2 coils are under load. You can clearly see the Lenz less effect when both coils are under load.

I had also posted a video earlier utilizing 4 transformers as a magnetic current amplifier.

This video shows the self excited effect when the generator is spun over 2000 rpm, Ed Leeedskalnin also said to spin your generator above this speed.
YouTube - MICHAEL FARADY - "Nothing is too wonderful to be true" VIDEO.mov

An excess energy machine producing copious amount of energy in kilowatts per hour can be build utilizing anti lenz design and a high efficient prime mover. And the only prime mover that will fit the bill is a Newman Motor. You can obtain 2000 rpm with gearing at minimal input expense with a few watts producing real usable power. kw/hr.

Isn't it time me move up from lighting a few lights bulb?.

I will post a video as soon as my parts arrive.

@John Bedini,
How much time do we have ?. With the Koreans War looming that was prophesied as the beginning of WW3, please elaborate on how Everyone will be left without electricity as you seem to be in the know.

[John_Bedini]

Big Bedini Motor

Turion,
Yes I did say that, what did I say, That your not going to do this with a roller-skate wheel. The machine is very big I would have liked to make it much bigger. The batteries I used were equivalent to 9v transistor radio battery on that machine.

No body is stopping anybody from building this machine. I let everybody take all the pictures they wanted to I answered what I could. I'm not going to do the work for everybody I encourage people to think for themselves because it's the only way to learn anything.

I have tried many different ways to state what the energy is here and what the machine is. Everybody can see the geometry of the machine. On a small scale I do not think you will get the same results. The monopole always worked like this but it was on a small scale. The coils are what the difference is. Big Coils big output. The machine does not need to go that fast to do the work 20 rpm's is fast enough here. I also encouraged everybody to look at the meters since that is what they want to see, but I guess everybody missed that.

So I will state it again, what it was, 36v 1.8 amps input. output batteries charged to the pin, limit on 2.8 amps float 36 volts. I could have swapped the batteries anytime I wanted to or just plugged an inverter in and sucked off all the power and sent it back to the primary but I ran out of time building the machine I almost did not finish it.

I also warned Rick to not grab the shaft as it would rip the skin off your hand. Forty six foot pounds on that shaft can run many things so you did not even consider that power it all adds together.

Take the big leap of faith and just build it with the knowledge you have it will work like all my toys do. See the way I see it is, it is just a hobby for most people and it does not mean anything, but this is a job to me building machines and chargers and switchers.

The time is coming when we may find everybody without power, that is why I said I'm running out of time. Since it used something like ED's L , Radus type arrangements you need to build small scale to understand how it works, that is why I wanted to test the output switching as Mathew and I-Ron did and they did make it work because of the youtube video's they posted, and I did watch them 5 or 6 times to make sure it was working.

John K also stated you can skin that cat many ways, he is right, what works for me may not work for you. Jerdee has done a wonderful job posting all those drawings, we are all lucky to have him here. He has almost everything right to the "T" in documentation on this machine, Great drawings. I will do my best to keep going on here.
John B

John,
I want to try and replicate your device, and have been following this thread from the beginning. I was also at the conference, took video, notes and pictures. There are a lot of things I am still unclear on, so I haven't begun yet, but intend to start tomorrow. I have a question I believe is very important.

One of the first things you said in this forum is that: "you can't do it on a small scale." which I took to mean that the size of the wheel makes some kind of difference. What would you say is the smallest size this could be built and still be successful, or did I misunderstand. I have a 22 inch steel rim I was going to use as my basis for the build and was wondering if that is too small.

[nvisser]

John,
Your comment makes it seem like you are switching somewhere else and im loosing confidence in my idea. Ill give it a try though, it will take me a while to get it set up. Will post results when i get them.

Cody

Cody.
I read carefully through your and John's posts about your setup. If I look at John's post 329 it looks like you have to mount your wheel vertical to position it the way that John suggested.
Quote:
"Take an I iron bar, set the wheel east west then spin the wheel while the iron bar is facing north and south see if the iron bar charges."

Vissie

[Turion]

John,
I want to try and replicate your device, and have been following this thread from the beginning. I was also at the conference, took video, notes and pictures. There are a lot of things I am still unclear on, so I haven't begun yet, but intend to start tomorrow. I have a question I believe is very important.

One of the first things you said in this forum is that: "you can't do it on a small scale." which I took to mean that the size of the wheel makes some kind of difference. What would you say is the smallest size this could be built and still be successful, or did I misunderstand. I have a 22 inch steel rim I was going to use as my basis for the build and was wondering if that is too small.