Bedini Solid State Oscillators

[Slinky]

Stunning stuff everyone, massive thanks again for documenting all experiments, so, so helpfull.
Got some 6v 2.4ah and 12v 1.2ah doing stunningly well after only 6 charges from 9v 100ma input, only 60 to 80ma actually getting to the batt.

Can batteriesalso get conditioned when on the input side?
Is there any advantage to using a psu input over a battery

Awesome doc you put together there smw1998a, really enjoyed the read last night, gave me sweet dreams indeed. Grabbed some 7555 chips today although they read ts555, any good?
Although, if bridge of the h wave is my base voltage, my scope must be way off. So much for all my data records

If a self oscillating ssg isn't realeasing all it's energy each collapse, could this read higher than the ssg input voltage?

Thank you.

[phishy]

[Martin B]

Dave,

Put a led in series with a 330ohm resistor between terminal 1 of the H11D1 and the ground terminal 1 of the 555. You can also use a 2N3440 instead of the 2N3584.

Martin B

[sucahyo]

I check the 555 by using it to lit a bulb (replacing the coil). Replacing the capacitor with 20uF or so would slow the oscillation and allow us to see the light pulasting if the 555 is working. Don't forget to add resistor in between transistor base adn 555 output.

[phishy]

can you confirm the 555 circuit is functioning?

[Sephiroth]

To be honest, I'm not familiar with the spec in the book... the MJL21194 is an epic transistor and I use it for all my bedini projects as the main power transistor.

It sounds like the oscillator itself is working, but there may be a problem with the cap pulser circuit... can't really pin point the problem from here though I doubt the caps are the issue and the SCR you are using should be able to handle those kind of currents comfortably.

can you confirm the 555 circuit is functioning?

[phishy]

If it is reading 200v constantly then is it possible the cap isn't discharging?

[Sephiroth]

If it is reading 200v constantly then is it possible the cap isn't discharging?

[sucahyo]

Maybe because there is not enough current?

Try with very high voltage low capacity or very big capacity low voltage.

Either way, I prefer direct charging over cap dumping method because I could get cold charging even with 6 hour of 200mA direct radiant charging.

All my attempt to get cold charging with capacitor dumping or capacitor in paralel ended up failed.

[phishy]

There are many many factors with batteries. Check out the battery bible pdf for a lot more info.
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Read the experiences of other replicators you will see they had dips in their charging of the batteries as well.
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If the battery was discharged and allowed to sit for any period of time a day or two, you are looking at prime condition for sulfation.

thanks, i already read all that... the battery charges up normal/good when i put it on the ssg or bedini/cole-bipolar... (verified!) i know my batts pretty well.

Do you know what voltage the cap is discharging at?

[theremart]

RE: never seen conventional charge.

There are many many factors with batteries. Check out the battery bible pdf for a lot more info.

But if you goto
Directory:Bedini SG:Replications - PESWiki

Read the experiences of other replicators you will see they had dips in their charging of the batteries as well.






If the battery was discharged and allowed to sit for any period of time a day or two, you are looking at prime condition for sulfation.

[Sephiroth]

Do you know what voltage the cap is discharging at?

[phishy]

[theremart]

I agree with Seph

If you watch Energy from the vacuum 2 video a sulfated batteries that he shows climbs high then drops in voltage.

The theory is that that spikes dislodge the sulfation and make more room for energy in the battery so the electricity now needs to fill the hole that has just been added. sorta like adding another capacitor to a battery the battery will drop, but... when it climbs back up it will have more amp hours than before.

The process is slow, ( deepending on size of batteries ) but over time if you have good batteries the amp hours increase, I think after 20 cycles I gained 10 amp hours on my golf cart batteries.

The same thing does happen without radiant charging, if you have a broken plate it can drop down and arc inside the battery and you will see all kinds of weird voltage readings. Electrolyte can do strange things as well if it gets contaminated. Several different factors.

[Sephiroth]

Hi phishy, Welcome to the forum!

I saw something similar when charging a an old car battery.... where this charger would charge any one of my batteries normally, the voltage on this battery just kept dropping.

I put this down to the battery being desulphated by the charger. It is just a theory, but my thoughts are that as the battery's internal resistance drops (quickly relative to the charge rate), it would show a lowering voltage across the terminals instead of an increasing one...

but that might not be what's happening in your set up... what voltage are you discharging the cap?