3 Battery Generating System

[velacreations]

Had the same idea about the mess of bad batteries in parallel as in the Ossie Callahan idea, which I have read by the way. Diidn't work. Primaries lost voltage

in that photo, you have your batteries hooked together with fairly thin jumper wires. Is that what you normally connect them together with? I would assume that proper battery cables would be better

[Turion]

Those jumpers are new, and actually a little thicker than what I normally use. As for regular battery cables, I'm usually working with just the AGM batteries, and they don't really have a connection for standard battery cables. I do have an entire set of #6 wire cable connectors I can use with alligator clips on the end, but I can get the setup to work with these simple jumpers. If I ever put a permanent setup together, it will probably be with much larger wire.

Dave

[velacreations]

what size are those jumpers? I think I have some that are #10, so that's what I will be using.

[Turion]

The jumpers are probably #18 wire. Radio Shack specials.

[velacreations]

one more question, has this been attemping with just one bad battery and one good one? The reason I ask is that the higher voltage from the 2 batteries in series might be what is making the bad battery revive (melting sulphation). If we had just one good battery, it might make the bad condition of batt 3 last longer.... maybe

[Turion]

velacreations

I personally have never tried it with just one good battery. Mostly because my goal has always been to run an inverter off battery thee. To do that I need the higher voltage of the two batteries in one direction vs the one battery in the other direction. If you have a motor that will run on lower voltage it might work and the effect may last longer. Worth a try.

[velacreations]

velacreations

I personally have never tried it with just one good battery. Mostly because my goal has always been to run an inverter off battery thee. To do that I need the higher voltage of the two batteries in one direction vs the one battery in the other direction. If you have a motor that will run on lower voltage it might work and the effect may last longer. Worth a try.

Once I get the basic configuration to work as you describe, I will play with that. I do have a few do motors that will start at 3 volts, and go up beyond 30 volts, so they might be candidates for that. That might help prevent batt 3 from charging much.

[Matthew Jones]

The best thing you can do is make sure to short out your dead battery when you shut the system down. That is almost sure fired way to keep it from fixing itself.

Matt

[Duncan]

I hope I'm not teaching granny to suck eggs (or pi's)

Had the same idea about the mess of bad batteries in parallel as in the Ossie Callahan idea, which I have read by the way. Diidn't work. Primaries lost voltage

Hi David I think your memory may be playing you false, unless you are thinking of some other circuit of Ossie's . Here is the PDF I think you have in mind

http://www.fluxite.com/WorkingRadiantEnergy.pdf

I was looking for Infinity
The Battery - YouTube

[Turion]

Duncan, you are absolutely correct in your memory of what Ossie had. I was afraid to put bad batteries in series because of the small amounts of voltage in each battery that add up and eliminate my potential difference. So I put them in parallel. What I failed to remember is I could increase the number of batteries in my primary stack at the same time. So I will give that a try sometime this weekend. I have 24 bad batteries and a number of good ones, so this should be possible. I have already taken voltage measurements on each of my bad batteries, so I should be able to control the potential difference.

[Duncan]

Great .. another snowball rolls!

great stuff David .. exciting times !

[Turion]

Duncan,
Got that setup up and running right now. Will let it go for thirty minutes and check voltages on primaries. I'm running a second motor as a generator as load on the motor. Total voltage on my bank of bad batteries (added at rest) is around 12 volts and 36 volts in the primary stack. I did have to short across the series of bad batteries (continuous short) to get the motor to run, so who knows what will happen. Will keep you posted.

EDIT:
After a 30 minute run and some rest time my primaries are up .05 above where they started. I ran no loads on anything except the second motor as a load.

Dave

[Duncan]

Duncan,
Got that setup up and running right now. Will let it go for thirty minutes and check voltages on primaries. I'm running a second motor as a generator as load on the motor. Total voltage on my bank of bad batteries (added at rest) is around 12 volts and 36 volts in the primary stack. I did have to short across the series of bad batteries (continuous short) to get the motor to run, so who knows what will happen. Will keep you posted.

EDIT:
After a 30 minute run and some rest time my primaries are up .05 above where they started. I ran no loads on anything except the second motor as a load.

Dave

NT
so please go find a sulphated battery and a brushed motor let Tesla speak for himself! You really wont miss this if it visits your little experiment its like a gas turbine on steroids.
even gog and magog your children have to live in the future too !

[Turion]

I will approach it one infinity device at a time. LOL. See what I get. May not get to it today, but will be on it tomorrow.

Here's video of the run I did with all the bad batteries in series in position 3. Will edit this to include ending voltages in just a few minutes.
Battery bank 3rd position - YouTube
Here is the ending voltages of the three batteries after resting all night. After posting this, I load tested each battery and these were the voltages I got under load. I also put all three batteries on my battery charger and it couldn't charge them any higher. It indicates they are fully charged These are old batteries that have been abused, so these standing voltages are as high as these batteries go.
Battery bank 3rd position final - YouTube.
The motor WOULD NOT START with these batteries connected in the third position so I used a coil to short from the beginning of the series of bad batteries to the end of the series of bad batteries.


Thanks to all of you who have tried this and for your contributions on the thread.

A day or so ago Matt told me that the first time I explained this setup to him (in his rental car on the way to the airport in Idaho) he thought I was full of crap. I could tell by the look on his face that he didn't believe me, and I didn't push it because I understood WHY he didn't believe me. This whole thing is just a little unbelievable....that such a simple setup could produce so much energy. But if you try it, you will be pleasantly surprised.

Those of us who have tried it, who HAVE seen it work (And not everybody does, because you MUST have the right battery in position 3 to get any results) know this is for real, and the only thing that stands between an incredible source of unlimited energy and where we are now is figuring out how to keep battery three from gaining that charge. Or replacing it with something that acts the same but doesn't charge up.

A couple folks already believe they have something that works, and are in the testing process before they share with the rest of the thread. When that day finally comes, how many of you will have a build already in place that you can adjust and make work? Will your friends and neighbors have one? We don't need hundreds of folks to replicate this, we need thousands. I thought this forum was a way to get this info out to the masses, but from the looks of things it's a few die hards like me, and a bunch of folks who want to discourage everybody. Not what I had in mind at all. But something like this will find its way out there if we come up with a solution. There are just too many folks too widely spread around the planet for this to go away now. At least i hope so. Anyway, keep trying guys. The future of the planet depends on YOU, because who else is gonna figure this out? You have to know about a problem before you can fix it, and only the folks who have been viewing this thread know what this problem is. Keep working. We have a new year coming up, and it is my hope that before the end of it we will have this thing figured out and 2013 will INDEED be the beginning of a new era, not the end of the world, just as the Mayan calendar predicted.

Dave

[ewizard]

I think everyone here appreciates your work a lot. For myself and I'll bet many others we jump on the Internet and like so may Internet surfers you jump from one new excitement to the next to the next and unless something has been shown to be:
1. easy to replicate
2. affordable
3. actually real world useful
4. 99% to 100% certain to work

many people will just jump to the next promising idea. The Internet has it's way of promoting 'instant gratification' and so anything that doesn't fit that gets put on a long list of priorities. I'm not saying this is right but I think it's human nature and most people have their tables full just getting through everyday life. So a few of us keep on experimenting knowing that at some point we will have all the pieces of the puzzle and the 'lack of belief' factor will be blown away. It's at that point that I think there will be thousands of replicators and when others learn of it probably millions. I often think of BruceTPU who I know has dedicated years of his time and a lot of money to diligently research and build TPU's but still doesn't quite have it. He still shares his work openly despite the lack of many replicators and sometimes a lot of skepticism.
I believe you have a good and valuable idea and at some time I'll probably jump back onto this to try my 4 pole 12 volt DC motor made by Siemens (a car radiator fan motor) which I have reason to suspect might have some special properties - possibly similar to UFOpolitics designs. I've got lots of bad batteries although I'm not sure which are the AGM types. I'll have to take a look at how Matt describes the way to find the difference.
I'm sure a lot of people are still checking in here but I think you and Matt are so far ahead of anyone else in the research on this that a lot of us won't want to duplicate your trials and errors. Some others are happy just to be experimenting regardless but that's a smaller percentage. Have the best of Holidays and a Happy Energetic New Year!