3 Battery Generating System

[velacreations]

Had the same idea about the mess of bad batteries in parallel as in the Ossie Callahan idea, which I have read by the way. Diidn't work. Primaries lost voltage

in that photo, you have your batteries hooked together with fairly thin jumper wires. Is that what you normally connect them together with? I would assume that proper battery cables would be better

[Turion]

Those jumpers are new, and actually a little thicker than what I normally use. As for regular battery cables, I'm usually working with just the AGM batteries, and they don't really have a connection for standard battery cables. I do have an entire set of #6 wire cable connectors I can use with alligator clips on the end, but I can get the setup to work with these simple jumpers. If I ever put a permanent setup together, it will probably be with much larger wire.

Dave

[velacreations]

what size are those jumpers? I think I have some that are #10, so that's what I will be using.

[Turion]

The jumpers are probably #18 wire. Radio Shack specials.

[velacreations]

one more question, has this been attemping with just one bad battery and one good one? The reason I ask is that the higher voltage from the 2 batteries in series might be what is making the bad battery revive (melting sulphation). If we had just one good battery, it might make the bad condition of batt 3 last longer.... maybe

[Turion]

velacreations

I personally have never tried it with just one good battery. Mostly because my goal has always been to run an inverter off battery thee. To do that I need the higher voltage of the two batteries in one direction vs the one battery in the other direction. If you have a motor that will run on lower voltage it might work and the effect may last longer. Worth a try.

[velacreations]

velacreations

I personally have never tried it with just one good battery. Mostly because my goal has always been to run an inverter off battery thee. To do that I need the higher voltage of the two batteries in one direction vs the one battery in the other direction. If you have a motor that will run on lower voltage it might work and the effect may last longer. Worth a try.

Once I get the basic configuration to work as you describe, I will play with that. I do have a few do motors that will start at 3 volts, and go up beyond 30 volts, so they might be candidates for that. That might help prevent batt 3 from charging much.

[Matthew Jones]

The best thing you can do is make sure to short out your dead battery when you shut the system down. That is almost sure fired way to keep it from fixing itself.

Matt

[Duncan]

I hope I'm not teaching granny to suck eggs (or pi's)

Had the same idea about the mess of bad batteries in parallel as in the Ossie Callahan idea, which I have read by the way. Diidn't work. Primaries lost voltage

Hi David I think your memory may be playing you false, unless you are thinking of some other circuit of Ossie's . Here is the PDF I think you have in mind

http://www.fluxite.com/WorkingRadiantEnergy.pdf

Note The Batteries in What Ossie refers to as the REAC are all connected in series. If I may just introduce a little home spun theory here. If you want the Impossible to occur (which is what is happening time and time again here) it isn’t going to happen in the realm of “known physics”
or at least not as taught and known to us. Its going to occur in area's where maths and science cant follow with current understanding. Its going to happen in the Infinite or the Infinitesimal where things have been assumed but not actually proven.
I hope I'm not teaching granny to suck eggs here but consider an irregular number like Pi for instance 3.14259..... for ever amen is that infinite or infinitesimal ? The number is to Base ten and seems to be increasing. But the Base is absolutely arbitrary so lets make it minus base 10
Pi now becomes – 3.14259 I hope you see that all perspective is gone you have no idea if pi is big or small Science and maths cant follow here.
Exactly the same thing is true of infinite and infinity there is no perspective or idea of size or shape its just assumed. The way is open for anything to happen The boffins hate looking cluless so they put that meaningless word in . like the old Cartographers' wrote "here be dragons" on the bits they couldnt be bothered to map.
This is the only environment where this miracle could be happening. Watch this silly clip I made I did it for a reason which seems to escape most of you. I have gone across a battery on an ohms scale because I was looking for Infinity
The Battery - YouTube
Now any one with even high school physics knows a load cant run with an infinite resistance in the circuit but that’s exactly what happens … and keeps happening time and time again to lots of you guys on this thread. well done guys .. But we want more ... many many more ... Make Tesla's snowball Roll ... Its on its way
The advanced chemistry books describe this resistance state as quote “almost infinity” that statement is about as much use as "tits on a kipper" infinity is meaningless as I have just pointed out and as for "almost" is that akin to “almost pregnant ? The Books then go on to say R>Z all very enlightening.
(I think not) Inside the Battery I don’t really know how to picture “degree's of infinity” or if the infinity is due to one cell or a collective effort,
This isn't really a battery any more anyway is it? Sure it looks like a battery but its doing something very different and very special.
Regarding Ossies circuit David what I suggest he's doing there (and of course the nay sayer's and meter readers cant go here either) is adding infinity together ….. so although Ossie isn't saying it he has quite a lot of “bad batteries” and he's adding one infinity to another and trying it and then he's adding another infinity until he reaches ….. MAGIC
however what’s actually happening here I doubt we'll know until the scribblers tell us what “almost infinity” means and expand R>Z … and how the chemistry works, In the mean time I think we are all having lots of fun watching huge amounts of Kw/h gushing out of this unexplained unexplored void in maths and science . aint we boys and girls?
Anyway David you and Matt are probably the only ones with enough “bad batteries” on hand to try it but me thinks … series is the way ossie intended
Good luck with it David

[Turion]

Duncan, you are absolutely correct in your memory of what Ossie had. I was afraid to put bad batteries in series because of the small amounts of voltage in each battery that add up and eliminate my potential difference. So I put them in parallel. What I failed to remember is I could increase the number of batteries in my primary stack at the same time. So I will give that a try sometime this weekend. I have 24 bad batteries and a number of good ones, so this should be possible. I have already taken voltage measurements on each of my bad batteries, so I should be able to control the potential difference.

[Duncan]

Great .. another snowball rolls!

great stuff David .. exciting times !

[Turion]

Duncan,
Got that setup up and running right now. Will let it go for thirty minutes and check voltages on primaries. I'm running a second motor as a generator as load on the motor. Total voltage on my bank of bad batteries (added at rest) is around 12 volts and 36 volts in the primary stack. I did have to short across the series of bad batteries (continuous short) to get the motor to run, so who knows what will happen. Will keep you posted.

EDIT:
After a 30 minute run and some rest time my primaries are up .05 above where they started. I ran no loads on anything except the second motor as a load.

Dave

[Duncan]

Duncan,
Got that setup up and running right now. Will let it go for thirty minutes and check voltages on primaries. I'm running a second motor as a generator as load on the motor. Total voltage on my bank of bad batteries (added at rest) is around 12 volts and 36 volts in the primary stack. I did have to short across the series of bad batteries (continuous short) to get the motor to run, so who knows what will happen. Will keep you posted.

EDIT:
After a 30 minute run and some rest time my primaries are up .05 above where they started. I ran no loads on anything except the second motor as a load.

Dave

Not quite what I had pictured Dave ... try one battery if it runs add another until its only just capable of turning your description of your first set up if you like .. where the motor started by itself... eventually.. remember ? you have the other extream now take a battery or two off see what I mean ? your adjusting into the Zone where physics fails infinit resistance in circuit yet its driving a motor actually aim for the impossible ... because you know it works! Ozzie didn't just start with six batteries or whatever .. well you know the rest. I guess the problem is we keep viewing these things as batteries ... all they have in common with a battery is they look a bit like one. but your there on the spot with your hands on the thing .. thats very different from me being parked in front of a comp
PS ...Yeah .. keep pushing the “impossible button” … each time you roll another and another of Nikki's snow balls ! Each member that tries this (win or lose) takes the whole of humanity nearer to the future Tesla claimed he was working for.
“The present is theirs; the future, for which I really worked, is mine.” NT
so please go find a sulphated battery and a brushed motor let Tesla speak for himself! You really wont miss this if it visits your little experiment its like a gas turbine on steroids.
even gog and magog your children have to live in the future too !

[Turion]

I will approach it one infinity device at a time. LOL. See what I get. May not get to it today, but will be on it tomorrow.

Here's video of the run I did with all the bad batteries in series in position 3. Will edit this to include ending voltages in just a few minutes.
Battery bank 3rd position - YouTube
Here is the ending voltages of the three batteries after resting all night. After posting this, I load tested each battery and these were the voltages I got under load. I also put all three batteries on my battery charger and it couldn't charge them any higher. It indicates they are fully charged These are old batteries that have been abused, so these standing voltages are as high as these batteries go.
Battery bank 3rd position final - YouTube.
The motor WOULD NOT START with these batteries connected in the third position so I used a coil to short from the beginning of the series of bad batteries to the end of the series of bad batteries.


Thanks to all of you who have tried this and for your contributions on the thread.

A day or so ago Matt told me that the first time I explained this setup to him (in his rental car on the way to the airport in Idaho) he thought I was full of crap. I could tell by the look on his face that he didn't believe me, and I didn't push it because I understood WHY he didn't believe me. This whole thing is just a little unbelievable....that such a simple setup could produce so much energy. But if you try it, you will be pleasantly surprised.

Those of us who have tried it, who HAVE seen it work (And not everybody does, because you MUST have the right battery in position 3 to get any results) know this is for real, and the only thing that stands between an incredible source of unlimited energy and where we are now is figuring out how to keep battery three from gaining that charge. Or replacing it with something that acts the same but doesn't charge up.

A couple folks already believe they have something that works, and are in the testing process before they share with the rest of the thread. When that day finally comes, how many of you will have a build already in place that you can adjust and make work? Will your friends and neighbors have one? We don't need hundreds of folks to replicate this, we need thousands. I thought this forum was a way to get this info out to the masses, but from the looks of things it's a few die hards like me, and a bunch of folks who want to discourage everybody. Not what I had in mind at all. But something like this will find its way out there if we come up with a solution. There are just too many folks too widely spread around the planet for this to go away now. At least i hope so. Anyway, keep trying guys. The future of the planet depends on YOU, because who else is gonna figure this out? You have to know about a problem before you can fix it, and only the folks who have been viewing this thread know what this problem is. Keep working. We have a new year coming up, and it is my hope that before the end of it we will have this thing figured out and 2013 will INDEED be the beginning of a new era, not the end of the world, just as the Mayan calendar predicted.

Dave

[ewizard]

I think everyone here appreciates your work a lot. For myself and I'll bet many others we jump on the Internet and like so may Internet surfers you jump from one new excitement to the next to the next and unless something has been shown to be:
1. easy to replicate
2. affordable
3. actually real world useful
4. 99% to 100% certain to work

many people will just jump to the next promising idea. The Internet has it's way of promoting 'instant gratification' and so anything that doesn't fit that gets put on a long list of priorities. I'm not saying this is right but I think it's human nature and most people have their tables full just getting through everyday life. So a few of us keep on experimenting knowing that at some point we will have all the pieces of the puzzle and the 'lack of belief' factor will be blown away. It's at that point that I think there will be thousands of replicators and when others learn of it probably millions. I often think of BruceTPU who I know has dedicated years of his time and a lot of money to diligently research and build TPU's but still doesn't quite have it. He still shares his work openly despite the lack of many replicators and sometimes a lot of skepticism.
I believe you have a good and valuable idea and at some time I'll probably jump back onto this to try my 4 pole 12 volt DC motor made by Siemens (a car radiator fan motor) which I have reason to suspect might have some special properties - possibly similar to UFOpolitics designs. I've got lots of bad batteries although I'm not sure which are the AGM types. I'll have to take a look at how Matt describes the way to find the difference.
I'm sure a lot of people are still checking in here but I think you and Matt are so far ahead of anyone else in the research on this that a lot of us won't want to duplicate your trials and errors. Some others are happy just to be experimenting regardless but that's a smaller percentage. Have the best of Holidays and a Happy Energetic New Year!