Harvesting Energy From the Sun Using Crystals

[Dave45]

Leedskalnin said the south field pulls more and the north field push's more,
the north field needs to point down toward the aluminum plate

[Dave45]

this is the coil Im using, its wound like the magnetic field

that is the one you were referring to right.
Dave

[Dave45]

I would suggest you use that double coil you made a while back to shape the vortex ice, it keeps coming back...

http://www.energeticforum.com/151033-post266.html

thats the coil Im using , I want to use a normal coil and see the difference just havent had time, to much going on with theory

[Dave45]

you could even layer Dave, you freeze one layer to shape it, add some more water re-freeze etc.... could be also done with the quartz powder or other (my choice is on quartz ) and ice

I never thought of layering the ice I'll think on that
Im thinking of moving the either field up so it inters the coil from above like the drain you posted, will make a screen tomorrow, I have a taller container that I can use for a cell.
Dave

[MonsieurM]

you could even layer Dave, you freeze one layer to shape it, add some more water re-freeze etc.... could be also done with the quartz powder or other (my choice is on quartz ) and ice

[MonsieurM]

from what we have seen so far quartz has been a major player, in our research it could definetely have an impact on the freezing process

have you considered using powdered quartz with the water...it will sink in to the bottom of the container where your alum plate is and get frozen....you end up with a vortex ice leading to a layer of frozen powdered quartz

Note: water expands when it is frozen , with the piezo electric properties of quartz and the memory of water + structure water sounds like a "Thunderfull" mix for an ice battery

remember that info i posted a while back :

USU geophysicist links quartz deposits to mountains and faults

Geophysical measurements collected in the western United States USU geophysicist Tony Lowry says quartz is key to rock cycles resulting in large-scale deformation of continents. Image courtesy Tony Lowry, Utah State University.

USU geophysicist links quartz deposits to mountains and faults | The Salt Lake Tribune

Mountains formation is due to quartz...(simple logic but works for me ) and mountains have ice

btw: about the quartz ice battery as the ice melt electricity is produced too...

[MonsieurM]

I would suggest you use that double coil you made a while back to shape the vortex ice, it keeps coming back...

http://www.energeticforum.com/151033-post266.html

[Dave45]

We are getting there bro

[Dave45]

Yea I was thinking the quartz would allow the either to move into the cell with less restriction whereas the acrylic is a dielectric.
But then again if we get the either field flowing from the top it wouldnt matter
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[MonsieurM]

The cell should be in a quartz container

from what we have seen so far quartz has been a major player, in our research it could definetely have an impact on the freezing process

have you considered using powdered quartz with the water...it will sink in to the bottom of the container where your alum plate is and get frozen....you end up with a vortex ice leading to a layer of frozen powdered quartz

Note: water expands when it is frozen , with the piezo electric properties of quartz and the memory of water + structure water sounds like a "Thunderfull" mix for an ice battery

[Dave45]

I didnt get much work done at my shop
Cant stop thinking

[Dave45]

the best shape for a drain is the one found by Victor Schauberger, a drain optimized to create a vortex





and thus we keep coming back to the Smith coil...

If we could get the horizontal field to move to the top of the cell we could create the drain as in this pic. This is the way to go, then we would have a strong drain and may not have to pulse the field

[Dave45]

The cell should be in a quartz container

[Dave45]

If we could do this we could build an electron pump it would be just a matter of timing, with no bemf to the coil
If we got no bemf to the coil we would know we were on the right track.

[Dave45]

Ya know when I was looking at the cell with the copper screen it seemed to move the field down away from the coil, the crack looked like it went all the way to the structured field but didnt crack the structured field.

I wonder if we could move the field totally away from the coil the bemf would go into the structured field and not the coil.

What I think the bemf is, the electrons(either) sets up the spiral then when there is a pulse or the electricity is shut off the residual electrons crash into the coil windings.
Dave