Muller generator replication by Romerouk

[Slider2732]

If i'm reading you correctly, does that mean you artificially move the Bloch wall to the neo position and by extending with the air coil you create a artificial opposite side from the Bloch wall ?
In other words, you have decided where the Bloch wall should be ?

40amps is great !

[blackchisel97]

I got a gap between rotor and coils adjusted again, back to approx. 10mm. Rotor running smooth and quiet. At 12V input 80mA draw. I have 4 sets of gen coils done atm. and one trigger. I measured almost 7V over the bridge off one set of gen coils in series. Scoped trigger shows 182Hz. However, when I connect a lamp with 22 LED's to one gen coil rotor slows down a bit. I guess this is nothing new and exciting but I'm still working on to understand better what can be done.
I keep thinking about bipolar switch and possibility of using it here.


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[khabe]

Hokum works on economic recovery Costless dinners does not exist, sponsors asking to get back at least donated funds world-wide sold thousands miles of hobby wires, tons of "new old stock" neo magnets, whereby by new price , sold lot of el. stuff, therewith esp. amazed are home appliance shops - sewing machine bobbins all over the world sold out
Muller Dynamo
cheers,
khabe

[totoalas]

If i'm reading you correctly, does that mean you artificially move the Bloch wall to the neo position and by extending with the air coil you create a artificial opposite side from the Bloch wall ?
In other words, you have decided where the Bloch wall should be ?

40amps is great !

Hi Slider

ac clamp meters made in China
YouTube - ‪Muller gen Rotor to Stator Sweetspot 200611.avi‬‏

cheers

totoalas

[blackchisel97]

Hokum works on economic recovery Costless dinners does not exist, sponsors asking to get back at least donated funds world-wide sold thousands miles of hobby wires, tons of "new old stock" neo magnets, whereby by new price , sold lot of el. stuff, therewith esp. amazed are home appliance shops - sewing machine bobbins all over the world sold out
Muller Dynamo
cheers,
khabe

Are you building anything or just hang around because you need to say something (not to confuse with having something to say). So far you don't contribute much to this thread and you did the same on OU. Keep going...

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[khabe]

Some more ideas:
Motors
Historical Physics Teaching Apparatus
The Museum of Unworkable Devices
cheers,
khabe

[khabe]

Honourable experts,
Well-respected polymaths,
Dear scientists,
Is it so hard to understand why the speed of the rotor increases?
Because opposite magnets when magnet turns away from coil then this COIL SHORTING hangs the the flux of top magnet to go back to his normal position, this flux goes back with time-lag, with delay, flux from top magnet does not come to an end before next rotor magnet arrives ... and next ... and next ... and as a result the speed of the rotor increases, especially when the right rpm chosen then rotor magnets have nothing to fight with anymore, no repulsion, no attraction.
Yes
And so what?
Also no advantageous useful energy - all spent for deceptive success
cheers,
khabe

[Slider2732]

@totoalas
Thanks for the video
I've seen those meters used but never owned one...thought they looked ideal for mountain climbers to hang on their belts lol

[blackchisel97]

paralell cap

I tried couple different caps in parallel with gen coil. Large value (20uF) makes LED's brighter but slows rpm, however, smaller ones don't. There are also interesting wave patterns with some ringing present at certain values. It looks like this maybe another variable to play with if we look at gen coils with cap across as LC resonating circuit.

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[scratchrobot]

Today did another experiment and discovered that when i put the top coil at the right spot, the spot that gives me the highest rpm then the scope shows me the Kromrey waveform. I don't think this is a coincidence. This time I also used a 47uf cap in series with the coils. I attach a picture with schematic of what I did and the waveforms, left is mine and right is the original Kromrey scopeshot.

YouTube - ‪minigenerator2.mov‬‏

minigenerator2.jpg

I wonder if all coils tuned this way on a muller give a good output.

[blackchisel97]

Today did another experiment and discovered that when i put the top coil at the right spot, the spot that gives me the highest rpm then the scope shows me the Kromrey waveform. I don't think this is a coincidence. This time I also used a 47uf cap in series with the coils. I attach a picture with schematic of what I did and the waveforms, left is mine and right is the original Kromrey scopeshot.

YouTube - ‪minigenerator2.mov‬‏

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I wonder if all coils tuned this way on a muller give a good output.

Indeed, it looks like a Kromrey. I tried to do the same earlier today but I'm getting only single "yoke" and with 10 Ohm not 1 like you have. I was testing one of the gen coils. Unfortunately I can't move them.


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[toranarod]

Indeed, it looks like a Kromrey. I tried to do the same earlier today but I'm getting only single "yoke" and with 10 Ohm not 1 like you have. I was testing one of the gen coils. Unfortunately I can't move them.


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I get the same wave form. it can be tuned with the magnets on top of the coils.
by controlling the inductance

[scratchrobot]

Indeed, it looks like a Kromrey. I tried to do the same earlier today but I'm getting only single "yoke" and with 10 Ohm not 1 like you have. I was testing one of the gen coils. Unfortunately I can't move them.


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I can not move them on my muller replica also but i do think it is important that you can move the coils to tune. When doing it like I do with one hand it is not easy to keep it at the right place.

Regards

[blackchisel97]

Thanks scratchrobot and toranarod Yes, I'm playing with core magnets as well. The one thing I'm not sure (not the only one ) - my hall is triggered by rotor magnets since I couldn't find anything small enough to fit the edge of the rotor (may try small neo spheres) and I'm not sure if this is a good idea for proper tuning.

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[blackchisel97]

I tried to experiment more with cap in series with 1 Ohm before the bridge while having DC side shorted with 150 Ohms. I scope across the cap and 1 Ohm and I see the best increase in amplitude around 20uF. Adding 10 or 20uF doesn't change anything. Something isn't right. I have a question to those who have a working device; what is the position of hall triggering magnets on the rotor in relation to the rotor magnets? On Romerouk video they seem to be aligned with rotor magnets but on toranarod pics they're in between.

Also, this appeared relevant to me - JLN Labs - The TEP Project - Bifilar VS Bucking coils

Thanks
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