Joule Ringer!

[minoly]

This video is a must see! This extremely simple enhancement halves input consumption while delivering the same luminosity by recycling BEMF. Similar to Flux4energizer's battery charger, except flux4 ties his LED cathode back into the bifilar series connection and then two parallel charge batteries, rather then just to the top of the secondary coil alone.

Joule Thief - enhanced - YouTube

Add one more diode emitter to base - it takes even less to light even more

[Allen Burgess]

Enhanced Joule thief.

This video is a must see! This extremely simple enhancement halves input consumption while delivering the same luminosity by recycling BEMF. Similar to Flux4energizer's battery charger, except flux4 ties his LED cathode back into the bifilar series connection and then two parallel charge batteries, rather then just to the top of the secondary coil alone.

Joule Thief - enhanced - YouTube

[totoalas]

A bit strayed from the Joule Ringer, but...

Here's a great little inverter from DC to AC Inverter With the 555 from (C)2002 Tony van Roon that I modded slightly that I find a lot of fun for running 110 VAC LED lamps on a 12v battery. I call it the Sentex KyleMod. All parts are easily had by recycling dead stereos / UPS's etc. No Centre Tap Transformer needed, or any triggering issues. I learned that by modding the oscillation frequency and filter capacitance you can get this little inverter to be conservative on the amp draw, quite cool! She puts out pretty good light at 12.8 volts / 70 mA (1 watt). After the vid, I did further mods and got it down to 50 mA, for the same light. There is lots of room to optimize this further I want to push the frequencies and voltages higher yet, work with some ferrites if possible Build one and let me see what you got! Please excuse my bad terminology, I'm new to this stuff

Here is a demo vid:



Thanks and Merry Christmas people!
Kyle

Hi Kyle,

Is it possible to use the microwave oven transformer ?? Remove the small winding and replace with how many turns / size or just retain the winding???

Its the same as frequency drives which will be more efficient in running motors or pumps
I already ordered a 3 A 17 v solar panel and a charge controller / inverter for a 500 w output so this one definitely is a must for me as my home runs on 60 hz and china made products are usually in the 50 hz range......
Jochen's High Voltage Page : Microwave oven transformers
thanks,

totoalas

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, while I am running my radiant charger tests, I decided to whip up a single JT version of the teslacult ringer.
Though I also would like to mention, that it seems my sla batteries are a bit sulfated and will need to be conditioned for a bit.

My single transistor, single bifilar version of teslacult's ringer is working and 3 leds taper down in light for at least 10 minutes.
Will be playing with this, to see how to make it better and brighter for longer.
peace love light
tyson

[minoly]

Hi.Here is a youtube vid by teslacult of his double joulethief which is ringing like crazy.Much potential with this one.
Self exciting generator - YouTube

@Kyle.Great experiment .Are you using a low power 555?It may save a few more mA although you seem to have it dialed in at 50mA .Jonny

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I really like the cap arrangement he has there:

Self-exciting transformer with schematic - YouTube

w/ schematic.

Patrick

[totoalas]

The magnatite core should allow for higher operating frequency.

Thanks Allen

Below is the Battery Bible from the Battery Secrets thread

http://www.pureenergysystems.com/PESWiki/Directory/Bedini_SG/files/Bedini-The_Battery_Bible.pdf

[Allen Burgess]

Metglass.

The magnatite core should allow for higher operating frequency.

[totoalas]

QUOTE

"My question:

With the welding rods, A. Where do you get them, such that they are not coated, or.. are they stripped of their coating? B. Is relatively low permeability the goal here, one would think welding rod cores would be low... C. I wonder how it'd work if you simple used bunched section of rebar iron tie wire?"


You get them at the welding supply outfit. Try the "Yellow Pages" of your phone directory. The coating is flux. All you need to do is to ask for the plain ones. The iron wire would grow permenently magnatized over time unlike the welding rods which are magnetic, but give their field up more rapidly. This feature can be graphed on a reluctance curve. It' a very important core characteristic. Metglass has the fastest magnetic loss rate of all the materials.

If meltglass is better then we can use the magnetite core from tv crt ???
wrapping the 6 wire parallel to the cup shape core ???

thanks

totoalas

[Allen Burgess]

Weldig rods.

QUOTE

"My question:

With the welding rods, A. Where do you get them, such that they are not coated, or.. are they stripped of their coating? B. Is relatively low permeability the goal here, one would think welding rod cores would be low... C. I wonder how it'd work if you simple used bunched section of rebar iron tie wire?"


You get them at the welding supply outfit. Try the "Yellow Pages" of your phone directory. The coating is flux. All you need to do is to ask for the plain ones. The iron wire would grow permanently magnatized over time unlike the welding rods which are magnetic, but give their field up more rapidly. This feature can be graphed on a reluctance curve. Its' a very important core characteristic. Metglass has the fastest magnetic loss rate of all the materials. The core magnifys the field of the coil, then relinquishes it to act merely as an magnetic attractor. The more intensely a core magnatizes and rapidly returns to inert attractor status, the better the core quality. John Bedini's choice of welding rods is good, because the space between the rods acts like core lamination seperation to reduce eddy currents along with the material's high reluctance rapid shift advantage.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, I ran a test today and it was just about 1 to 1 charging.
Though it must be said that the output, using the 1 ohm resistor test results, amounted to 1 watt hour and the battery bank load powered almost 16 watt hours, so this alone should cause anyone to see the potential of these setups and that some kind of external energy is feeding in.
Though it has been said that conditioning of the batteries can help.
Hi minoly, so I am going with the joule thief wiring which works well and then I will try the capacitor and diode modifications with it.
Minoly, if you setup your other good working coil or get it going well again, since you say your not sure of the reliability of the amp meter results, is it possible to run a load from your large battery bank that you can also run from your smaller primary, keeping it close to C/20 discharge rate and discharging down to the voltage level prior to charging, then same with drive battery, discharge down to previous level with same work load.
This is the approach I am going to take, since I think it will tell us if our charge bank is actually able to supply more work than what we used to drive the pulse circuit.
peace love light
tyson

[minoly]

Hi Patrick

Do you have any other alternative for the 10 uf 250V yellow capacitors you used in your circuit because i couldent find this cap in sweden ?
thank you

Ehsan

Hi Ehsan,
I don't know that the exact part matters that much here. I would imagine electrolytic is better.
I have an almost exact same coil (100ft longer) using MJL21194's, and I don't have the blue caps - I do have the yellow cap on the trigger and everything else is identicle. This build charges fine but not as well as the one in the vid...
still working things out...
you really have to play with that cap and pot/watt...
I wish I had Romero's scientific patience.

Patrick

[ehsanco1062]

10 uf 250V yellow capacitors

Hi Patrick

Do you have any other alternative for the 10 uf 250V yellow capacitors you used in your circuit because i couldent find this cap in sweden ?
thank you

Ehsan

[kcarring]

Hi folks,
@totoalas, I would use welding rods if you can't get find manufactured ferrite core.

I've decided it's time to upgrade my Bedini Desulphator for my solar system, been looking at the latest SS SSG configurations people are using. I once bought baluns from this guy, in the Ukraine, and he was good to deal with. (* side note they shatter VERY easily, I wrecked half of mine, one drop on concrete and they are DONE, plus, they are slightly warped, and thus start rolling when you'd expect they wouldn't!).. anyway, they are relatively LOW permeability (400?) for these 8mm's. Mine were 10 mm's. I simply built my own centre-holded plastic discs, and glued them to the end of the baluns, which I first applied shrink tubing, to...

My question:

With the welding rods, A. Where do you get them, such that they are not coated, or.. are they stripped of their coating? B. Is relatively low permeability the goal here, one would think welding rod cores would be low... C. I wonder how it'd work if you simple used bunched section of rebar iron tie wire?

Thanks.
Kyle

[kcarring]

@Kyle.Great experiment .Are you using a low power 555?It may save a few more mA although you seem to have it dialed in at 50mA .Jonny

I'm not sure... it is marked LM555CN. The transformer is a fairly large one, at least 1a 120-12 stepdown. I'm going to look at things on the scope when i get a chance, see whats going on. i'm running with no resistor off PIN 3, at all, no inductor on the filter (only a single 470 uF cap),a 47k pot to the top rail, 10k tuning pot - and 20 nF timing cap to (-), fairly bright at 40 mA, and it's now starting to ring a bit. If you go down to 3.9 nF, it'll still oscillate, the ringing disappears, draw is around 30 mA, but you do lose some light. Basically I am trying to rid the circuit of reistors as much as possible, and get the frequency high enough that I might incorporate ferrites? Also, I need to try using a 6v - 120 transformer, I am only measuring 50VAC on output. Cheers

[ehsanco1062]

@Hi ehsan, I am using 23awg magnet wire and a ferrite core scavenged from audio speaker crossovers. If you can't find cylindrical ferrite core, use welding rod, it seems to work well for minoly.
I decided to solder everything I could together on my setup, to improve output and stability, so will be testing soon. proto boards only good for verifying working circuit.
peace love light
tyson[/QUOTE]

Hi Tyson

Thank you for the quick response.good luck with your setup

Ehsan