Joule Ringer!

[SkyWatcher]

Hi totoalas, don't really have matching gutted cfls here and that may be an issue with trying to light multiple bulbs in series or parallel off the same transformer.
Will try and see.
The only issue might be, that if we add more turns to the secondary, we can ignite more cfls in series, but we now have less current potential because of higher resistance in secondary to light them brighter.
Maybe using a thicker gauge wire, like 24 gauge, would need more layers to get the same turns, though the current would be available to light multiple bulbs in parallel, though probably not in series, as the voltage probably would not be there to strike lights on.
Then again, maybe some type of added circuitry, (similar to a ballast function) to ignite the multiple bulbs, then added windings might not be necessary on the same ferrite core transformer.
We will see.
With the Meissner TV yoke circuit just posted, to get it to light at a lower input and lower light level without using a potentiometer, had to wire in a bypass switch to ignite the bulb, since the lower setting is not enough to strike the bulb, so it is a similar concept.
Get the multiple bulbs to ignite, then we can use a lower input on all of them, for a useable amount of desirable light for our application.
peace love light
tyson

[totoalas]

Hi folks, Hi nick, here is the circuit that is lighting up a gutted 13 watt cfl to full brightness, while the heat sink is only warm and transistor between ambient and luke warm.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post219280
peace love light
tyson

Hi sky
can you try with 4 or 6 bulbs then we can use this in solar lighting

merry xmas

totoalas

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi nick, here is the circuit that is lighting up a gutted 13 watt cfl to full brightness, while the heat sink is only warm and transistor between ambient and luke warm.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post219280
peace love light
tyson

[Nick_Z]

All:
Still working on lighting the gutted Cfls to good useable brightness. Not easy. Needs lots of secondary windings.
Good luck to all.
I don't have my Pc working and can't keep up with the action, but, still at it.

Nick_Z

[totoalas]

X Generation LED Lamps

HI to all
MY JR 1 had been effective with third generation led lamps 220 v ac 5 w led lamps with 200 mA 80 % brightness for 10 pieces in parallel

However with new 4th generation led lamps, I can lit only one which is still flashing with my original JR set up ... need to increase the input current which is bad for solar / battery charged system

Has anyone tried to adapt the jr to any kind of led lamps with less amps

most of the current test with sjr cross over, lynx had more than 200 mA just for one led lamp

Either we come back to gutted cfls by Skywatcher and Nicks
and Slayer/ Jonny davro circuit for more tweaking

Merry xmas to all

totoalas

[jonnydavro]

@Billxx.Looking forward to seeing your results,they sound really promising
Please also try led bulbs with your setup and possibly post a circuit diagram.Cheers.Jonny.

[ewizard]

@jonnydavro

Jonny, I'll be able to report very exciting results soon. So far, I have increased the CFL brightness significantly and able to increase battery pack voltage with the transistor ice cold. My target is for full brightness and to overdrive the gutted CFL at a current draw of 300ma with the transistor still ice cold.

I look forward to seeing more on your setup. I was working last night with a different sort of bi-toroid dual bifilar setup running from a 555 based square wave gen I built just for this. So far it's lighting LED's but no OU yet. I'm trying to find a way to recharge the 9 volt supply battery from this setup. I also had a gutted CFL running from this coil setup and 120 volt LED at the same time but power was from a 12 volt Nicad pack for that. I'm always looking for ways to keep the battery up or increase in voltage so it sounds like you're onto something really good there.

[Billxx]

I hope you do try a 555 timer on the base to give you complete control as I think you will get very good results as it is easy to overdrive the transistor and needlessly waste battery power.The buzzer works very well to do this and is quick to implement and that is the setup which I have had my best results with.
Thanks for sharing your experiment.Jonny.

@jonnydavro

Jonny, I'll be able to report very exciting results soon. So far, I have increased the CFL brightness significantly and able to increase battery pack voltage with the transistor ice cold. My target is for full brightness and to overdrive the gutted CFL at a current draw of 300ma with the transistor still ice cold.

[totoalas]

Totoalas:
Have you tried charging the 7ah, 12v batteries that you have using the solar panels going first to the Ringer circuit, and then to the charge battery?
To compare that HF charge performance of the pulse charge, to that of the regular 12 to 18 volt low voltage charge, direct from the solar panels to the battery. Which is the best way to charge the 12v batteries?

Hi nickz
Never tried on a 7 ah battery but to a cell phone but for a short while only

Im currently using the sg oscillator from solar to two 7 ah batteries ... ps check my last video on YT very efficient
My JR is set only to max 200 m A to save on the charge for 12 pcs 220v ac led lamps in parallel ( usually 160 mA)
Im now experimenting with strip leds since new led bulbs 4th generation tend to consume more

totoalas

[totoalas]

Totoalas:
Have you tried charging the 7ah, 12v batteries that you have using the solar panels going first to the Ringer circuit, and then to the charge battery?
To compare that HF charge performance of the pulse charge, to that of the regular 12 to 18 volt low voltage charge, direct from the solar panels to the battery. Which is the best way to charge the 12v batteries?

Hi nickz
Never tried on a 7 ah battery but to a cell phone but for a short while only

Im currently using the sg oscillator from solar to two 7 ah batteries ... ps check my last video on YT very efficient
My JR is set only to max 200 m A to save on the charge for 12 pcs 220v ac led lamps in parallel ( usually 160 mA)
Im now experimenting with strip leds since new led bulbs 4th generation tend to consume more

totoalas

[Nick_Z]

Totoalas:
Have you tried charging the 7ah, 12v batteries that you have using the solar panels going first to the Ringer circuit, and then to the charge battery?
To compare that HF charge performance of the pulse charge, to that of the regular 12 to 18 volt low voltage charge, direct from the solar panels to the battery. Which is the best way to charge the 12v batteries?

[totoalas]

Hi nick, the picture is bloomed a bit, though it is bright for 410 milliamps, 12 volt input.
If the cfl bulb connections are swapped, then it draws 1 amp and almost full brightness.
This is why this drawn circuit is being shared, because of some oddity with this air coil ringer.
If you swap the primary connections around and the secondary, it somehow oscillates in a different mode and the cfl stays cool and is much whiter than normal, though in that cooler mode, it seems that probably much stray high frequency voltage radiation is being emitted and not absorbed into the cfl, as meters go haywire and touching connections can burn skin, though no pain really.
Here is circuit and description on changing coil connections to alter circuit operation.
Also plan to build another air coil ringer and try probably double the secondary turns and see what happens.


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peace love light
tyson

nice ckt for salvaging slayer secondary coils and cfls ....still working on my solar charger for galaxy note and tab which need daily charging i using the aa cellphone charger to do this happy weekend totoalas

[SkyWatcher]

Hi nick, thanks for the information.
Built the circuit that is powered off 220vac wall mains with mostly scavenged cfl parts, though did not work, probably because it is 120vac here.
He does mention using a voltage quadrupler in the circuit for 120vac supplies, though would have to study and comprehend the circuit better.
Thinking of upping the voltage to 220vac out on the secondary of the simple inverter, just to see how this burn filament cfl circuit works.
If any good results are had, will post in the lighting burnt filament bulbs thread.
Otherwise, that small ferrite e-core setup is on the list of experiments to do.
peace love light
tyson

[Nick_Z]

Djoko is lighting the 5 watt Cfl very well using the tiny E-core and the 2n3055, on the 3.0 ringer circuit. Runs using 12v, and 660 mAs, and transistor is NOT hot. Not bad... very economical circuit.

Here is the first shot of my Cross Over circuit to test for self charging.
Too early to tell, but does not look to be self charging, yet.
I'll make more changes to it and further runs.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi nick, thanks for the link, did see that video, though forgot.
Noticed he also tested that circuit to power burnt filament cfl's off the mains and he says he is drawing 25 milliamps or 3 watts and the brightness looks very good.
CFL3 - YouTube
This gives an idea to try the simple inverter, providing 120 or so AC volts, then use that circuit connected to the secondary, as if it were hooked to the wall mains to light burnt cfl's, hmm.
peace love light
tyson