Rebus57 Tesla Device

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Breakdown Gap not Spark Gap

Hi Guruji,

I will ask Rebus about the negative scenario. Oh, according to Rebus his device is not a spark gap but a breakdown gap. He says that there is a significant difference on this point. Thanks for your interest and you are very welcome.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Hi Slovenia thanks to share this. Can you ask Rebus if it's true regarding spark gaps that they can emit X rays which are not healthy to us?
Thanks

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Update: Spacing between acrylic housing & wire mesh screen cylinder

According to Rebus, there is a 1/8" spacing between the cylindrical acrylic tubing housing and the cylindrical rolled copper wire mesh screen. This is very important indeed.

Rebus indicated that the copper wire mesh screen fit loosely inside the acrylic tube housing. I'll try to clarify some more information regarding this soon. We many soon be getting some more pictures.

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Constructive Help on This Thread

If you have something constructive to contribute, please do so in a non critical manner. Thanks!!

[Raui]

I am quite intrigued about this device as I never bought the 'special batteries' story of Tesla's lab assistant and this sound much more Tesla to me. I'll post more questions and comments after a little think about the device as a whole

Raui

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Special Note

Special Note added to the bottom of Post #10 of this thread.

CHANGES!!!

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Another Explanation (Posted on Don't Kill Dipole Oct. 15)

from Rebus57 Oct. 15, 2010

Another Explanation:
Let me try another way. During transmission from your local AM radio station the outgoing signal will "ring" the atmosphere around the transmission antenna and a signal opposite from the original is generated and will continue to build until outgoing or transmitted signal is blocked completely. To counter this a circuit is between transmitter and antenna tuned to this opposite signal, this "waste" energy is bled to ground through a very expensive copper ground plane buried like a spider web around antenna site. This is what I am trying to achieve, pickup a signal (cosmic) have it generate the "waste" energy on the current collector rod, feed that through the output tubes firing them to get desired output frequency. The key to this is picking up and sorting out with a detector circuit our signal, which I am betting its below 200 HZ ELF and most likely will be found all over the universe. Now as for the prototype. I built a version of the Gray conversion element switching tube using spark plugs for my spark gap, a motorcycle ignition coil for my high voltage, a couple of triacs triggered by a 2 LED blinker cir. instead of blinking LED's it fired my triacs feeding 12 vdc+ to the coil. Spark plug wire from coil was connected to the anode of current collector tube and spark plug connected to 12 vdc+, with power for coil and spark plug both connected to 12 vdc+ the only thing connected to 12 vdc- was a 20 ga wire for blinky cir. and batt voltage stayed at 12.23 steady during operation. The plate for CC Tube was connected to the anodes of the output tubes and spark plugs also used as spark gaps they too were firing indicating power flow through CC Tube, at this point I have not realized to use resistors to split my output tube's voltage so no light bulbs were illuminated, but flow through cir was observed and that was good enough for me to move forward on this path. I knew this cir was not right for final design but worked to test the Gray tube operation. Finally, I am trying to stay away from the words of big brother, R@#!^%& (pickup) and T%&*#@!^ (ringing or to ring) and A&%$##@ (current collector rod).

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PDF File of Rebus57's Posts

Refer to #2 post on this thread for access to the pdf file.

There is a lot of information there to study.

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Three Types of Tubes Used

There are three types of tubes used in the circuit. They are:

1) Current Collector Tube
2) Output Tube
3) Trigger Tube

So, they might be abbreviated as CC, OT, & TT.

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Views of Output Tube Parts

Output Tube Views

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Project X Drawing (Word Clarifications)

Clarification of illegible words (Project X Drawing)

[sebosfato]

Now i understand it a little better...

I wil try to build one here and do some tests to understand what happens...

Thanks Slovenia

i just posted this on the dipole thread... and i think is related to why or how Rebus device work

Hello guys

I kept thinking... and i guess something very interesting crossed my mind...

You are ahead of electrostatic induction, the ability of a charged rod to charge infinitely times an electroscope. It is like this because you don't transfer the charge you only use the electric field force (due to the density of charge in the rod) to push the electrons inside the conductor (electroscope)

Electric field depends on three things, specific capacitance of the rod, witch defines the density of charge per area, and the mass and material of the rod. Because this would define the amount of free electrons that can move or also maximum charge that the rod can have.

Now what if the electroscope was substituted by an inductor? Wouldn't this flow of electrons create energy by its free movement due to the force?

So an EMF is developed across the inductor... (important thing is the ratio of mass of wire to mass of the rod)

if there is a capacitor in parallel with this inductor an oscillation will be set.

Now if the inducing rod is also part of a resonant circuit having the same natural frequency of the induced, the charges (inducing) would induce energy in the tank for every cycle.

Even if is not very big amount of joules per cycle, you can make this cycles to become hundreds of thousands times in one second... And the energy lost would be that of the resistance of the wires dissipating heat because of the electrons flow.

Thus density of charges, doing work, or electric field doing work.

I think that is a matter of equating the mass of the rod to the mass of the induced (coil)

thus using electric field to induce magnetic field in an inductor by force acting on the free electrons of the wire thus not consuming energy.. (actually consuming but only the energy needed to place the force where you want to achieve the desired effect.


Basically not killing the dipole. Using the dipole not as a source of energy but as a source of force.

I guess might be the only way.

I'm thinking about if this would be possible using magnetic induction, however i'm not sure if is possible. If is the most advanced way would be to combine both the magnetic and electrostatic induction.

Tesla were ahead of this and he used the sky electrostatic field to sustain his oscillations, he knew that the only energy he needed to put in was that to oscillate the charges... Thats why he could transfer energy around the globe. was not about electromagnetic transmission, He created an oscillation on the sky so if you connect the right antenna and "radiant" "energy" charge collectors you could use the energy for free... as the energy from this electrostatic field on the sky come straight from the sun.

I will keep investigating.

I need to determine how much field and mass the rod might have to induce certain current, than i can provide a device design to prove the concept.

If any of you know how to determine the amount of charge that would flow inside a conductor due to electrostatic induction force, please help me. I believe it has to do with the resistivity of the material, its mass, the force, and the geometric configuration..

Thanks
Regards

[SuperCaviTationIstic]

I still say Tesla's 2 phase (180 degrees out of phase) transformer with the 2 parts coiled in opposite directions was built for this purpose. (lecture on Experiments with alternate currents of high potential and high frequency) The 2 opposing magnetic fields nullify each other, and it's left with electrostatic induction. The mass of the primary should be equal to that of the secondary says Tesla (although doesn't Dollard say their surface area should be equal?). In that design he says the ratio of primary turns to secondary turns is small, "...but in opperating with very rapidly alternating currents this ratio does not convey even an approximate idea of the ratio of the E.M.Fs. in the primary and secondary circuits."

[sebosfato]

I still say Tesla's 2 phase (180 degrees out of phase) transformer with the 2 parts coiled in opposite directions was built for this purpose. (lecture on Experiments with alternate currents of high potential and high frequency) The 2 opposing magnetic fields nullify each other, and it's left with electrostatic induction. The mass of the primary should be equal to that of the secondary says Tesla (although doesn't Dollard say their surface area should be equal?). In that design he says the ratio of primary turns to secondary turns is small, "...but in opperating with very rapidly alternating currents this ratio does not convey even an approximate idea of the ratio of the E.M.Fs. in the primary and secondary circuits."

Yes this could be related too. do you have a link for this text?

[SuperCaviTationIstic]

"Experiments with Alternate Currents of High Potential and High Frequency"

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X-Ray

According to Rebus, the x-rays are not going to be a problem with this setup, since the voltage is minimal compared to the much higher voltages utilized by Tesla such as 250K Volts plus. Tesla was working with much higher voltage than we are here.

Hi Slovenia thanks to share this. Can you ask Rebus if it's true regarding spark gaps that they can emit X rays which are not healthy to us?
Thanks