Don Smith A review...

[med.3012]

hello AetherScientist

this is another video of DS please see at 53 min



[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu5qn82c88I[/VIDEO]

[ilandtan]

Of course, after hearing Smith's symposiums one can start to think in a specific way.

I have read several times about vectors but I don't know what are you referring to.
Do you refer to the electric vector and magnetic vector? I would like to know more about that.

I'm sorry AS, I am beyond my depth, and used the word vector, because I wanted to show that this unspecified radiant energy that has magnetic force properties that can be amplified, has a relative position against AMP/VOLT, with a direction. I am starting to believe that if it is said that electro-magnetic description is that magnetic waves are 90 degrees from current flow, that in itself, it's just not enough, because it suggests we are to assume that it behaves just like AMPs/VOLTS.

I've seen references to "negentropy":Shrodinger, and "reverse time tachion currents (Kapa)":Combine, all trying describe the same idea of a radiant energy that electrically moves against current, and radiated. So I used the word vector because I can have a different direction, a different end point. If it can transmit through a farady cage, it has to be different.

[AetherScientist]

About the knowing. I view it as, manipulated by direction, to primarily know about two vectors of the description of electricity. So like a magician's slight of hand, we know so little about the vectors that would accurately describe and predict Tesla Waves (Non Hertzian). We know so little about the magnetic vector. That's why I was drawn to Don Smith from my first view of his symposiums, because he bridged the understanding that there was a different rabbit to chase.

Of course, after hearing Smith's symposiums one can start to think in a specific way.

I have read several times about vectors but I don't know what are you refering to.
Do you refer to the electric vector and magnetic vector? I would like to know more about that.

[AetherScientist]

when the CCW electrons meet the CW electrons a useful electric power will flow.., a simple bulb connected to ground show this requirement because you have two different states so the electrons in both side can meet each other... Don Smith show this in the capacitor discharge using only the ground, Tesla also used this kind of technique a long time ago so it's not new.

the E-TBC or the M-E-TBC ( the mixed E-TBC ) use the same principle in oscillation, in these devices we treat the electricity based on electron spin direction, so they act as a single wire has an internal capacitor ( hidden ) doing this you will work in the very small portion of electricity, it's electron spin separation mechanism.. in my point of view it's not difficult, nothing complicated here !

I agree with you. I think to produce useful electricity you need CCW and CW electrons. I have observed another phenomena where CCW and CW are involved in a different way. For example, there is a phenomena where you can charge capacitors using only electric energy (remember about what I was talking about using the car's ignition coil + AV plug), and there is other phenomena where you can charge capacitors using electric+magnetic energy. I see electric energy as a rectified specific magnetic field. Floyd Sweet said once that when you cancel the electric field you have a magnetic field and when you cancel a magnetic field then you have an electric field.

In background energy the electrons are not separated. They are CCW + CW at the same time. When you excite the background energy then that energy is differentiated (CCW OR CW). You can build antennas to absorb that energy and produce useful power.

A magnet, for example, is an antenna. There is also the electric equivalent (electrical "magnet") called the electret.

Don Smith show this in the capacitor discharge using only the ground

Do you remember the exact source of information?

[ilandtan]

=AetherScientist;284310]I was reading some information about all of this and I see that we don't understand almost nothing about electricity. Smith big system is not easy to replicate. First we must build dozens of simple circuits to better understand what is happening in Smith's circuits.

About the knowing. I view it as, manipulated by direction, to primarily know about two vectors of the description of electricity. So like a magician's slight of hand, we know so little about the vectors that would accurately describe and predict Tesla Waves (Non Hertzian). We know so little about the magnetic vector. That's why I was drawn to Don Smith from my first view of his symposiums, because he bridged the understanding that there was a different rabbit to chase.

Transcribed from a Don Smith Symposium about the Plasma Globe: This diode bride which I designed myself for my plasma tube experiment. In Plasma if you have a way to measure the magnetic flux which there are number of ways; Plasma tubes put out such huge amounts energy You can't believe, so if you put in maybe 20 volts in, or 10 volts or whatever. Out of the plasma tube; It's limited, The energy coming out is maybe 50 thousands or more units of energy that's going in; So a great deal more then that actual. So if you have the way to capture the energy from the plasma tube, and practical way, and you work it down in a frequency zone where the diodes work for you, instead of against you, You can get alot of useful energy from the plasma tube.

This is my justification working on DS plasma and my intuition that plasma at higher frequency does what the sun does, and radiates. I'm want to package it, it and use it.

However look at our test gear, it's flawed. We can view amps/volts... on an oscilloscope, but we don't see the magnetic component compared to them in real time. We don't know what happens to flux speed/strength as you increase the frequency/voltage/current. Tesla knew the waves where faster than the speed of light. If so he had to build for shorter wavelengths. Imagine a scope with magnetic trace... Now I'm dreaming talkin' crazy. Prometheus

[med.3012]

Exactly, think in simplicity without deep and strange calculations. You only need to observe nature because nature doesn't understand physic's books.

I agree with you too. There are devices that work as energy tapping devices. We are used to see circuits in an way that doesn't allow to see energy tapping. There are components that are not taught, the devices to measure parameters only show a small point of view, etc.. so it's very difficult to see anything that can give you an idea.

Even the simple bulb connected to ground (the last video I posted) was very strange because just only one person has told to me about that. No engineers, no one. And it's a circuit where you need only 1 wire (no components needed)

when the CCW electrons meet the CW electrons a useful electric power will flow.., a simple bulb connected to ground show this requirement because you have two different states so the electrons in both side can meet each other... Don Smith show this in the capacitor discharge using only the ground, Tesla also used this kind of technique a long time ago so it's not new.

the E-TBC or the M-E-TBC ( the mixed E-TBC ) use the same principle in oscillation, in these devices we treat the electricity based on electron spin direction, so they act as a single wire has an internal capacitor ( hidden ) doing this you will work in the very small portion of electricity, it's electron spin separation mechanism.. in my point of view it's not difficult, nothing complicated here !

[AetherScientist]

this true and i agree with you 200% this why i am starting to think in simplicity, a simple safe circuit show an important effect but it does work as OE ( over energy ) device will be something great !

Exactly, think in simplicity without deep and strange calculations. You only need to observe nature because nature doesn't understand physic's books.

I agree with you too. There are devices that work as energy tapping devices. We are used to see circuits in an way that doesn't allow to see energy tapping. There are components that are not taught, the devices to measure parameters only show a small point of view, etc.. so it's very difficult to see anything that can give you an idea.

Even the simple bulb connected to ground (the last video I posted) was very strange because just only one person has told to me about that. No engineers, no one. And it's a circuit where you need only 1 wire (no components needed)

[med.3012]

I was reading some information about all of this and I see that we don't understand almost nothing about electricity. Smith big system is not easy to replicate. First we must build dozens of simple circuits to better understand what is happening in Smith's circuits.

There are dozens of calculations and effects that people usually don't know. Trying to build the big system with classic understanding is almost an impossible task.

So guys, I want to hear you about what you think. If we want to get some useful results we must work together. There are a lot of different circuits to build and that is a very heavy work for just only one person.

this true and i agree with you 200% this why i am starting to think in simplicity, a simple safe circuit show an important effect but it does work as OE ( over energy ) device will be something great !

[AetherScientist]

I was reading some information about all of this and I see that we don't understand almost nothing about electricity. Smith big system is not easy to replicate. First we must build dozens of simple circuits to better understand what is happening in Smith's circuits.

There are dozens of calculations and effects that people usually don't know. Trying to build the big system with classic understanding is almost an impossible task.

So guys, I want to hear you about what you think. If we want to get some useful results we must work together. There are a lot of different circuits to build and that is a very heavy work for just only one person.

[med.3012]

hello everyone !


actually working on joule thief circuit using the E-TBC inside it , i am studying it thoroughly so maybe it's easy to make with it a self running LED with capacitor! who know ?

[Jeff Pearson]

I was referring to the capacitor on the smith device, not the patent. The photos of the smith device are not opposite wound coils. the patent is opposite wound coils Aether Scientist

[AetherScientist]

Avramenko's plug and Cockcroft-Walton circuit.

I assumed Thomas Ferko's experiment was stepping up the voltage from the plasma ball with a kind of Cockroft-Walton array, similar to what Aether Scientist describes in his post: http://www.energeticforum.com/283380-post79.html

A cockcroft-walton step up, it's simply a group of Avramenko's plugs connected in parallel.
Check my post #79 again and see how the cockcroft-walton is a repeating AV plug again and again. I have marked in red the embedded AV plug.

There are some interesting details to study in the AV plug and specially in the C-Walton multiplier. I think the C-Walton multiplier is a kind of capacitive step-up transformer.

I am going to study a little bit and I will check this thread in some hours.


EDIT: It would be interesting trying to charge an AV plug from the output of the C-Walton step-up. Even building a single-wire version of the C-Walton step-up.

[AetherScientist]

Classic Avramenko's plug is inefficient. There are other options.

Another possible configuration would be to use 2 transformers to create a destructive interference and use that single line transmission line (aka one wire electricity) to feed an AV plug.

I know there are variants of the original AV plug. In overunity.com there is a guy that developed an improved AV plug, also there is a circuit with schematics to use it as AV plug. It seems the original AV plug is inefficient. There are some more efficient modifications.

[AetherScientist]

I assumed Thomas Ferko's experiment was stepping up the voltage from the plasma ball with a kind of Cockroft-Walton array, similar to what Aether Scientist describes in his post: http://www.energeticforum.com/283380-post79.html

I have seen in youtube a video where a guy used a special coil to light a fluorescent light bulb. It's extremely simple to build those coils and he uses only 1 wire to light the incandescent bulb. The bulb lights completely. The guy explains that his coils are "aetheric antennas" and again, in some configurations he uses the CCW and the CW coils. He fully explains how to replicate the effect and he uses a plasma ball in that video to use as the energy source to light the fluorescent bulb.

There is also another very interesting video where a guy lights an incandescent bulb using only 1 wire (I think it's the phase wire). That guy doesn't explain how to reproduce the effect, but he is using some kind of very simple circuit attached to a single wire and it's possible to light an incandescent bulb. It seems that the device is composed of 2 or 3 components (maybe tuned?).

[AetherScientist]

I assumed Thomas Ferko's experiment was stepping up the voltage from the plasma ball with a kind of Cockroft-Walton array, similar to what Aether Scientist describes in his post: http://www.energeticforum.com/283380-post79.html

Last week, my kids and I did a little Christmas party trick with the plasma ball. One of them put a hand on the ball and joined hands with three of us to make a chain. I was number 4, holding a LED bulb by the threaded socket. My daughter then put her fingers around the bulb's collar above the threaded socket and put her other hand on the metal frame of our coffee table. The bulb lit up. The plasma bulb was effectively the positive terminal, and the metal table a virtual positive (ground).

I believe that what's coming off the plasma bulb is longitudinal electromagnetic impulses. When they meet a capacitor, this longitudinal EM impulses combine with transverse electromagnetic waves to produce useable electricity.

Perhaps the question lies in stepping up the recombined useable electrical charge.

I must cut this post short, but will check back later.
Happy New Year everyone!
Bob

Good point, I think capacitors have a lot to observe. I have seen non-usual phenomenas in capacitors while watching youtube videos.

Reading documents, I have even seen 1 plate capacitor (open capacitor), 2 plate capacitor (as we know), 3 plates capacitor, etc...

One interesting phenomena is the Avramenko's plug. You can see how it's possible to charge a capacitor only using the phase AC wire. I have tried to charge the capacitor with the phase 50-60 Hertz @ 250 Volts AC and you can charge it using the phase as the AV plug input energy. Of course, the energy stored in the cap is very little, but when you short the capacitor, you see some sparks.