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  • blackchisel97
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    According to Dr Russell as well as 1/2 Russel which is Bashar Let say you start winding from the base (not practical but to simplify explanation) and continue CW toward the apex. Now you move wire (bend) from the apex toward circumference and continue winding down, toward base keeping CW direction (motion of your hand). This is your first coil set. Second is done the same way (starting from the base and winding up) but you go CCW. Now you have two sets which be positioned close to each other. At least this is the way I understand.


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  • sucahyo
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    lol don't remind me how talkfull I am.

    NickZ, cemenite:



    I think high powered frequency generator on a coil around crystal may have more influence to human than weather.


    Interesting info for tetahedron.

    My bashar coil is only a plam size. And I build it both cone in the same direction.

    Thanks for bashar antenna energy info and Russel quote Vtech . Looks like the cone apex have more influence. can you feel anything with the base side, Vtech?

    I will try again with two cone with different direction. My pendulum reading show each apex has similar polarity for two cone with similar winding direction.


    Edit: Wait, I am confuse with this opposite and same winding term.

    The second picture is opposite or similar winding direction?



    If you merge the first picture cone coil together it won't result to second picture:
    Last edited by sucahyo; 04-15-2011, 02:57 AM.

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  • blackchisel97
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    I think I got it. One set of cones wound in one direction, say cw, just like Bashar explained. Second set of cones wound in opposite direction. No tetrahedron is needed, no copper to cover it. Just coils.


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  • NickZ
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    Yes, I had read the same information, and also reached the same confused conclusion, that something is not quite right, either with Russels diagram information or the way it was stated. Possibly even on purpose, which would not surprise me, at all.
    In any case Bashar's coil description is easier to follow, or understand. He will be in San Fransisco in a couple of days. Hopefully he will have a chance to elaborate further on the next step of the process.
    First thing is to make the one thing that we know for sure: 2 foot high inverse coil. Whether or not the tetrahedron or pyramid is really needed will hopefully soon be known. Since it is expensive to build with copper sheets, just wait a bit and see. Other guys are also hot on the trail.
    @Sucahyo: Is your coil the minimum size of 2 feet high? Any comments?

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  • blackchisel97
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    Some more from Russell:

    Division and Multiplication

    The inward radial direction is North - the compressive direction of gravity which multiplies potential by compressing light waves radially into smaller volumes of greater frequencies. The outward radial direction is South - the expansive direction of radiation which divides potential by expanding light waves into larger volumes of lesser frequencies.


    The Twelve Laws of Change of the Infinite Universe

    1. One Infinity manifests itself into complementary and antagonistic tendencies, yin and yang, in its endless change.

    2. Yin and yang are manifested continuously from the eternal movement of one infinite universe.

    3. Yin represents centrifugality. Yang represents centripetality. Yin and yang together produce energy and all phenomena.

    4. Yin attracts yang. Yang attracts yin.

    5. Yin repels yin. Yang repels yang.

    6. Yin and yang combined in varying proportions produce different phenomena. The attraction and repulsion among phenomena is proportional to the difference of yin and yang forces.

    7. All phenomena are ephemeral, constantly changing their constitution of yin and yang forces; yin changes into yang, yang changes into yin.

    8. Nothing is solely yin or solely yang. Everything is composed of both tendencies in varying degrees.

    9. There is nothing neuter. Either yin or yang is in excess in every occurrence.

    10. Large yin attracts small yin. Large yang attracts small yang.

    11. Extreme yin produces yang, and extreme yang produces yin.

    12. All physical manifestations are yang at the center, and yin at the surface."

    "In the fall of 1959, General Chapman, Colonel Fry, Major Sargent, Major Cripe, and others from NORAD in Colorado Springs, attended a meeting at Swannanoa, Virginia (University Of Science And Philosophy) at the invitation of Walter Russell. At this meeting Russell explained the workings of a device he proposed to build to take advantage of the vacuum state energy, and the two directional movement of energy from gravitation, (generation), to radiation, (degeneration). During the following year Russell, his wife, Lao, and their assistants built the device. The prototype that was built consisted of two sets of dual and magnetically-sexed coils." - The idea behind the coils is to simulate the life cycle of the electric current - what we have are male and female overlapping cones with coupling and canceling fields - "energy exists in male and female vortices that form between this dimension and other dimensions"

    Russell said "the universe consists of electricity, and nature multiplies energies, by concentrating this electricity (or space energy) - until she forms matter, like for example a star or a planet".

    "Nature's first principle of power production and the construction of matter is to produce heat from the cold of space. The heat thus generated radiates back into cold to complete the wave cycle which automatically repeats itself in this ageless universe of infinite continuity." (very similar to the theories of Victor Schauberger)

    YouTube - Russellian Science: TEC Breakdown of Russellian Science, Part 6, Fukushima Nuclear Disaster


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  • blackchisel97
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    Originally posted by NickZ View Post
    Bc:
    Thanks for the reply on your batteries and antenna coils. Your findings are interesting, especially the effect of the tingleling felt upon touching the coil.
    Not touching! just holding hand close to it.
    Actually, we don't need tetrahedron. Its shape and dimension are just a guidelines for this coil. I was looking again at Russell coils and they are basically two Bashar coils connected. However, I found this old picture a bit confusing. Description says: inner coils are wound from the ends toward the center in opposite directions. Outer coils are wound from the center toward ends in opposite directions Now, if you look at the picture (Russell) - Fig.126 and 127, you see continuous wind in same direction (with arrows on the wire)but there is also additional direction indicator in the center and both ends which suggests opposite direction of something. How would you interpret that? Also, when you study assembled coils you can see the resemblance of Bashar description: Start winding from one base, when you reach the apex move over toward circumference and continue winding the same direction. So, this would be one coil set. Do the same with other side but in opposite direction. As a result you'll have two Bashar coils wound in opposite directions.
    And a quote: Two coils were wound on cones.The apices of these conical coils were pointed towards each other and power was applied so that bucking fields were created by the collision of opposite magnetic fields. Very fine iron filings were dropped into the gap between the coils and a levitating sphere was produced. When the coils were slowly pulled apart, an oval followed by a sphere surrounded by a disk appeared.
    And another one:
    "Russell also developed and tested counter-wound sets of coils, each in the shape of overlapping cones. The device was based on the "power multiplication principle" discussed in the many books that he had written.

    According to a memo dated in 1961, the device worked: "because of the false concept of gravity which assumes it to be force of attraction which pulls inward from within instead of a cyclic force which controls the expansion of cold into heat, and the expansion of heat into cold...

    Nature's first principle of power production and the construction of matter is to produce heat from the cold of space. The heat thus generated radiates back into cold to complete the wave cycle which automatically repeats itself in this ageless universe of infinite continuity.

    On September 10, 1961, Walter and (his wife) Lao Russell reported to their contacts at NORAD, that the coils had worked and that the President of the United States could announce to the world that a "greater, safer power than atomic energy" could be provided for industry and transportation. The Russell's were convinced that they had found and demonstrated a new source of energy and a conversion process for what is now known as the zero point energy."


    This experiment has been described in his book - Atomic Suicide.
    Almost forgot, we need to use DC not AC.


    Pleas don't mind my post number. It would come up sooner or later.....

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  • NickZ
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    Bc:
    Thanks for the reply on your batteries and antenna coils. Your findings are interesting, especially the effect of the tingleling felt upon touching the coil.
    At least it's a start in the right direction. I will also make one ASAP.
    I just finished making some new beach sand cement batteries, this time adding baking power and a 3/16" thick copper tube spiral coil that runs through itself and out the top. They are already putting out some juice but I'll place them in the oven to dry overnight.
    My previous cement batteries also started out fine, but after an hour or two of lighting an Led, they drop down to about half the voltage, still dimly lighting the led, and stay at that level until they are disconnected, Then they will recharge themselves, and bounce back to normal. They will take a 4 or 5 volt charge and will hold it for some days if no load is present.

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  • blackchisel97
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    Originally posted by NickZ View Post
    We are a tight knit group here. Joining heads may attain a result that individually may not ever happen. I very much respect you all.
    Sucahyo with his 3000 posts takes the cake. We'll help you eat it, Ha ha ha!

    The Antenna Coil needs to be "rung" in order to activate it, then Resonance will keep it ringing. That is the nature of the beast. The dimmer idea is not meant as permanent fixture, but only used to jump start it. Fractured waveform or not, it's worth a try. I already use dimmers in my house, so, no extra expense, there. All transformer primaries are short circuits, aren't they? Yet they work. Two inverse coils will cancel something out, but also let something else come through. But What?
    If Russel mentioned to the President at that time, that he had discovered a better form of power transformer for the production electrical energy, shouldn't we pay close attention, and also do something about it?
    This is not a small thing we are working on, but there may be a lot going on against us. Never the less, success is inevitable, one way or another, sooner or later.

    About the tiny tetrahedron video: Yes, most likely it was just a hoax, but a very good trick all the same. It caught my attention. I can't find it again. What is too good to be true, usually, is not true.

    If Alum is actually caustic it may not be a permanent solution towards higher cement battery output. Can anyone confirm that?

    Aluminum foil may be negative by nature, but it can also store a lot of energy as well as conduce a positive voltage, such as in capacitors.
    Copper sheets are expensive, but if really needed, then it can be used. Three foot copper tube tetrahedron frame may be enough to do the trick.
    The alum we're using is an Ammonium aluminum sulfate. Potassium alum doesn't work the same.

    I was thinking even a frame covered with copper foil should do the job - Copper Sheet, Copper Flashing, Copper Sheets, Copper Foil Rolls, Copper Sheeting for Arts and Crafts and Various Applications.
    I had to finance a few other things and this is still on my purchase list
    I ran some test with my coil (which is not built as described as far as dimensions but following geometry). There are energy fields, quite strong inside - around the cones crossing area. Bases/apexes are also active. When one hand is held near and other extended in the air (like an antenna) the sensation in the hand close to the coil can get prickling enough to make you move away. Almost like a sudden jolt from JT (not that powerful, but unexpected). I'll try to make 3' tetrahedron either today or tomorrow. I don't think I have enough wire to make large cones to fit description.
    There may be specific freq. required to ring it, not just a random, such as 60Hz. My tests with cones showed that they resonate in 500 -700kHz range. I was getting response much higher in amplitude than my function generator is capable of supplying and two cones connected with apexes or bases created nice oscillating tank to power LED from cement cell. BTW this cell is almost 2mths old and dry. I was pulling 5mA for couple hours before it started to drop by 0.5mA.
    There is an answer in cone shape, water, vortex. We need to combine what we know or search for more clues.


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  • NickZ
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    We are a tight knit group here. Joining heads may attain a result that individually may not ever happen. I very much respect you all.
    Sucahyo with his 3000 posts takes the cake. We'll help you eat it, Ha ha ha!

    The Antenna Coil needs to be "rung" in order to activate it, then Resonance will keep it ringing. That is the nature of the beast. The dimmer idea is not meant as permanent fixture, but only used to jump start it. Fractured waveform or not, it's worth a try. I already use dimmers in my house, so, no extra expense, there. All transformer primaries are short circuits, aren't they? Yet they work. Two inverse coils will cancel something out, but also let something else come through. But What?
    If Russel mentioned to the President at that time, that he had discovered a better form of power transformer for the production electrical energy, shouldn't we pay close attention, and also do something about it?
    This is not a small thing we are working on, but there may be a lot going on against us. Never the less, success is inevitable, one way or another, sooner or later.

    About the tiny tetrahedron video: Yes, most likely it was just a hoax, but a very good trick all the same. It caught my attention. I can't find it again. What is too good to be true, usually, is not true.

    If Alum is actually caustic it may not be a permanent solution towards higher cement battery output. Can anyone confirm that?

    Aluminum foil may be negative by nature, but it can also store a lot of energy as well as conduce a positive voltage, such as in capacitors.
    Copper sheets are expensive, but if really needed, then it can be used. Three foot copper tube tetrahedron frame may be enough to do the trick.

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  • blackchisel97
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    Originally posted by NickZ View Post
    Guys:
    I don't know about using the AC dimmer for anything other than the standard 120 volt outlet power source. But, maybe depends on how much current is present also.

    Thanks for the clarification about the cloud buster. I didn't see how it would be possible using a 12 volt CB radio. But, you never know, as they can reach half way around the world using only 12 volts, if the conditions are just right. I've heard of guys adding very strong sigbooters to them also.
    I had misunderstood.

    There was a video (which now I'm unable to find again), that showed a guy that made a tiny 3 inch tetrahedron out of 6 tooth picks. He would place it in the palm of his hand, and when he held his index finger next to the kitchen faucet, the falling water stream would curb towards his finger attracted to the small tetrahedron. Very interesting effect, if not just a trick. He was also able to lift a cooper penny on its edge by putting the little tetrahedron on top of it. I will try to find that video again, if I can. Quite amazing, if true.

    When I mentioned about the aluminum foil covered tetrahedron capacitor, I found that somebody has already made one. Sincronicity?
    But it is still not the suggested 3 foot minimum size. He does have a signal generator connected, and will probably be pulsing it with the Earth frequency, sooner or later, if he has not done it already. Result are in the Earth Light thread.

    Can someone tell me where to find or buy Alum for cement batteries.
    Sucahyo, what is Cemenite?
    Nick, this is the best place for alum I know, $20 for 5lb or $31 for 10lb - Search : MySpiceSage.com, Better spices, prices and information than the grocery!

    I remember watching this vid. and this was a hoax, in my opinion.
    I'm a bit skeptical about Al foil. Aluminum is a negative metal and I do firmly believe that copper should be used for that as well as pyramid. Same applies to the ORAC. I built mine with Al before I became aware of that.

    As far as stepping down hv/hf I was thinking about two coils wound on the U shaped magnet and pulsing one through a spark gap. There should be AC coming out from second coil. After that it can be stepped down with transformer. I didn't quite figure this out yet. Dimmers have terrible, chopped wave forms. Good enough for the light bulbs but hardly anything else.


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  • NickZ
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    Guys:
    I don't know about using the AC dimmer for anything other than the standard 120 volt outlet power source. But, maybe depends on how much current is present also.

    Thanks for the clarification about the cloud buster. I didn't see how it would be possible using a 12 volt CB radio. But, you never know, as they can reach half way around the world using only 12 volts, if the conditions are just right. I've heard of guys adding very strong sigbooters to them also.
    I had misunderstood.

    There was a video (which now I'm unable to find again), that showed a guy that made a tiny 3 inch tetrahedron out of 6 tooth picks. He would place it in the palm of his hand, and when he held his index finger next to the kitchen faucet, the falling water stream would curb towards his finger attracted to the small tetrahedron. Very interesting effect, if not just a trick. He was also able to lift a cooper penny on its edge by putting the little tetrahedron on top of it. I will try to find that video again, if I can. Quite amazing, if true.

    When I mentioned about the aluminum foil covered tetrahedron capacitor, I found that somebody has already made one. Sincronicity?
    But it is still not the suggested 3 foot minimum size. He does have a signal generator connected, and will probably be pulsing it with the Earth frequency, sooner or later, if he has not done it already. Result are in the Earth Light thread.

    Can someone tell me where to find or buy Alum for cement batteries.
    Sucahyo, what is Cemenite?

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  • sucahyo
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    Originally posted by NickZ View Post
    Sucahyo and Blackchisel:
    A simple, cheap AC dimmer control will drop the regular 120v AC outlet voltage to any desired voltage level. That dimmer might also function similar to the capacitor transformer that you just mentioned.
    Ok, thanks. But Would dimmer can work with 5MHz 50 000Volts ? Some believe the step down is difficult because the output has very high voltage and very high frequency.

    Originally posted by NickZ View Post
    Thank you for showing the picture of the effects in the clouds caused by the CB radio. Although you had mentioned something about it before, I had not heard about the use of it, for the purpose that you are intending to use it for.
    No NickZ, I forget to elaborate that CB is the short name of cloud buster. And I don't have cloud buster nor orgonite nor CB antenna nor high power device nor frequency generator. I doubt you can cast away patterned cloud with high power AC. Although I think we can use one polarity of high voltage DC.

    I believe I get that results from 8 cemenite that I have at home.

    Originally posted by NickZ View Post
    So, we must make and tune the Space-Antenna Pyramid circuit to resonate with the correct Earth pulse frequency, as that is what this appears to be all about.
    Agree .

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  • NickZ
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    Sucahyo and Blackchisel:
    A simple, cheap AC dimmer control will drop the regular 120v AC outlet voltage to any desired voltage level. That dimmer might also function similar to the capacitor transformer that you just mentioned.

    Thank you for showing the picture of the effects in the clouds caused by the CB radio. Although you had mentioned something about it before, I had not heard about the use of it, for the purpose that you are intending to use it for.
    I still have a CB here at my house, from back in the days when we had no phones, or electricity in my small beach town. I may have to depend on it again for communication purposes in the future.

    The tetrahedron is a natural vortex maker, and can affect and alter the space inside as well as around it, even with no additional input source. Form Energy is found in cones, pyramids, domes, spheres, etz..
    If the tetrahedron is lined with aluminum foil on both sides with plywood or something similar in between (capacitor effect) it may focus and concentrate even more of that energy towards the center (like a magnifying lens effect), where the antenna coil is located. The energy that is being focused (Aether) may not be measurable or noticeable , although still present. It may take a capacitor to separate the polarities into usable electric energy.
    The experiments that are being done now are not using the correct size coil (2 foot high), or a three foot minimum sized tetrahedron, and therefore are out of tune with the 7. 8 or so cycles per second resonance pulse of the Earth. If the frequency is off by only slightly, resonance is not achieved. Without the additional resonant effect very little if any additional energy may be noticed.
    Just like a CB or any communications radio function at certain very precise channel frequencies, if it is only slightly off of the correct channel, or if the antenna is not tuned properly, it won't function at all. That can also cause the burning up of the radio, or create other negative effects.Although there be nothing really wrong with the radio transmitter itself, but is a result instead of improper tuning of the circuit.
    So, we must make and tune the Space-Antenna Pyramid circuit to resonate with the correct Earth pulse frequency, as that is what this appears to be all about.

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  • sucahyo
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    Vtech, thanks for the video. I currently consider electricity as somehow liquid too so the water vortex rule may also apply.


    NickZ, yes, it seems JT like circuit is best to use for changing voltage.

    About bashar, I think using grid electricity is unnecessary and dangerous. Agree that we need low voltage high current. However, I think bashar antenna or pyramid will create high voltage with very low current like what water produce. We need something to lower it down and I don't think ordinary transformer can half it.

    Maybe we need capacitive transformer:
    Last edited by sucahyo; 04-14-2011, 01:53 AM.

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  • NickZ
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    Blackchisel:
    Yes, all so very true.
    Implosive vortex is the key. Nature is our teacher, also.
    Thank you,
    NZ

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