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  • sucahyo
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    Originally posted by blackchisel97 View Post
    I think that orgonite location inside the pyramid may not be very critical but crystal presence is important.
    Thanks for the clarification .

    Originally posted by blackchisel97 View Post


    I'm not making any claims at this point, just sharing.
    I claim it for you then . Nice result .

    I read that big result can be different for different kind of plant. Some prefer POR, other prefer DOR. Just like plant that grow well in healthy environment to sustain it and other grow well in poisonous environment to clean it.

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  • blackchisel97
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    Promised pictures

    I took a few pictures from my pyramid set up and 2 samples of sunflower and Indian Corn. Both were taken from the same source, planted in identical containers, same soil etc. Samples are 7 days old and those from pyramid are marked.









    I'm not making any claims at this point, just sharing.


    Vtech

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  • blackchisel97
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    I made some changes in my pyramid. I placed 16" copper cw pancake coil on the bottom - used copper 3/8" pipe and grounded well. Also, added metal cap, spiral coil suspended from the top and connected to it. Three sides are closed. I put one orgonite on the bottom level, in the center of the pancake and another approx. on the kings chamber level. Both have vertical crystals inside.
    5 days ago I planted few sunflower seeds and Indian Corn in small pots. Both batches already broke the soil surface but those from pyramid are taller.
    It should be easier to compare when they'll get first leaves. I'll borrow the camera tomorrow and take some pics. I think that orgonite location inside the pyramid may not be very critical but crystal presence is important.


    Vtech

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  • sucahyo
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    Originally posted by Guruji View Post
    Hi guys you're saying that if I put an orgone generator under a pyramid would be better in terms of energy? How much height is best 1/3 from the bottom?
    The reference mention crystal. I think the piece must produce bipolar orgone that either shoot up or shoot down. From this point of view, Reich orgone accumulator do not qualify or can not be used.


    The suggestion is 1/3 from top. Read Vtech post too.

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  • Guruji
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    Orgone generator

    Hi guys you're saying that if I put an orgone generator under a pyramid would be better in terms of energy? How much height is best 1/3 from the bottom?
    Thanks good info

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  • sucahyo
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    Originally posted by tjlitke View Post
    I just read Les Brown's Pyramid book. Does anyone know if there is a place to by pre-made 'energizers' as he described (for use in refrigerator to ease decay, as well as in other experiments?)
    I don't know what that is, maybe orgonite or something similar. I had seen papaya kept fresh longer in refrigerator with my piece:

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  • tjlitke
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    Les Brown's 'Energizer'

    I just read Les Brown's Pyramid book. Does anyone know if there is a place to by pre-made 'energizers' as he described (for use in refrigerator to ease decay, as well as in other experiments?)

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  • sucahyo
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    Originally posted by blackchisel97 View Post
    Samples outside dried more. Small green tomatoes were tested too. Those inside are still more orange/red while outside are bright red. Both samples are starting to dry but one from inside is firmer and edible. I'll post some pics later. Previous tests were totally opposite to what I was hoping to see. Deterioration occurred much faster inside, including infestation of fruit flies and other crawly fauna.
    That is great result .


    Originally posted by blackchisel97 View Post
    I have a one problem. There is quite significant deviation in magnetic N between observed outside, in the yard and inside in the basement. I have 4 compasses and couldn't get them to agree upstairs. They work the same outside and in the basement where the pyramid is but there is approx. 7-10deg difference between outside and inside
    Why magnetic deviation is a problem?

    Can you see if you have different weight too?

    Originally posted by blackchisel97 View Post
    Piercing, painful feeling experienced on the beginning is no longer detectable anywhere inside or near the structure. I'll have more details on aura later but there is domination of light blue in the spectrum. Lots to digest and figure out further direction. Got my 4" bifilar starship done last night and my finger tips are a bit sore.
    That is great. That would be a very useful information for anyone building pyramid inside the house. Look forward for more .


    Originally posted by Altair View Post
    Thank for the link, that give many direction for FE research .

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  • Altair
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    Interesting reading here:
    ON THE WAY TO THE DISCLOSING OF MYSTERIOUS POWER OF THE GREAT PYRAMID

    Altair

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  • blackchisel97
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    More tests and observations

    Finally got home after 6 wks. I did compare two batches of veggies placed in glass cookie jars; one inside the pyramid and other, as far as I could move away - 10ft, which is about 3x base length away. I'm not sure if that is still too close. I had samples of carrots and beets from the garden, similar sizes placed in both jars. They've been there since Oct 11th. Temperature was around 20 C and humidity between 60% - 70%. While the "outside" samples look quite sad and depressed (shrunk, black spots on the carrots), carrots from pyramid look healthy, maintain color and beets from pyramid began to grow. There are 3-4" (10cm) stems with leaves. Also, there were fresh grapes samples tested. Those from pyramid aren't as firm as "new" but still edible. Samples outside dried more. Small green tomatoes were tested too. Those inside are still more orange/red while outside are bright red. Both samples are starting to dry but one from inside is firmer and edible. I'll post some pics later. Previous tests were totally opposite to what I was hoping to see. Deterioration occurred much faster inside, including infestation of fruit flies and other crawly fauna. Those recent ones were conducted between Oct 11 - Now 02 with one piece of orgonite placed inside as well as small quartz crystals combined in a cluster by wrapping cw copper coils around them. Orgonite was suspended approx. 5" under the apex. Crystal cluster was placed approx. on the level of Queen's chamber. There was also another crystal device on the same level and totally improvised. It consisted of double terminated Loohan Coil with few crystals inside, wrapped in their own coils and connected to the ends of Loohan coil. This wasn't following any particular idea and it may not make any sense in this set up.
    I have a one problem. There is quite significant deviation in magnetic N between observed outside, in the yard and inside in the basement. I have 4 compasses and couldn't get them to agree upstairs. They work the same outside and in the basement where the pyramid is but there is approx. 7-10deg difference between outside and inside. I re -oriented pyramid last night according to the N measured outside. Also, I closed three sides with plastic sheet, leaving only access thru South side. I placed cw 16" flat spiral coil on the bottom, added metal cap and suspended vertical spiral coil from it. Bottom coil is grounded (9' below the ground level). Both coils are connected by moebius wrapped quartz crystal on the level of Kings chamber. There are also two orgonites, one on the King higth and one on the Queen.
    There is detectable stream of energy coming from the apex but the strongest feeling is around upper spiral, which is pulsating not constant and the freq. is about 1Hz. There is also warm and pleasant feeling around the crystal. This warmth spreads from inside of the palm of hand towards the elbow. There is almost nothing detectable on top of orgonites. Piercing, painful feeling experienced on the beginning is no longer detectable anywhere inside or near the structure. I'll have more details on aura later but there is domination of light blue in the spectrum. Lots to digest and figure out further direction. Got my 4" bifilar starship done last night and my finger tips are a bit sore.


    Vtech

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  • future pather
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    Oh I see, that really makes sense

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  • sucahyo
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    Thank you, about crystal in king chamber I mean:
    Questioner: How does the healing that you just told us about relate to the healing done in the King’s Chamber in the Giza pyramid?

    Ra: I am Ra. There are two advantages to doing this working in such a configuration of shapes and dimensions.

    Firstly, the disruption or interruption of the violet/red armoring or protective shell is automatic.

    In the second place, the light is configured by the very placement of this position in the seven distinctive color or energy vibratory rates, thus allowing the energy through the crystallized being, focused with the crystal, to manipulate with great ease the undisturbed and, shall we say, carefully delineated palate of energies or colors, both in space/time and in time/space. Thus the unarmored being may be adjusted rapidly. This is desirable in some cases, especially when the armoring is the largest moiety of the possibility of continued function of body complex activity in this density. The trauma of the interruption of this armoring vibration is then seen to be lessened.

    We take this opportunity to pursue our honor/duty, as some of those creating the pyramid shape, to note that it is in no way necessary to use this shape in order to achieve healings, for seniority of vibration has caused the vibratory complexes of mind/ body/spirit complexes to be healed to be less vulnerable to the trauma of the interrupted armoring.

    Furthermore, as we have said, the powerful effect of the pyramid, with its mandatory disruption of the armoring, if used without the crystallized being, used with the wrong intention, or in the wrong configuration, can result in further distortions of entities which are perhaps the equal of some of your chemicals which cause disruptions in the energy fields in like manner.

    Questioner: Is there currently any use for the pyramid shape at all that is beneficial?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is in the affirmative if carefully used.

    The pyramid may be used for the improvement of the meditative state as long as the shape is such that the entity is in Queen’s Chamber position or entities are in balanced configuration about this central point.

    The small pyramid shape, placed beneath a portion of the body complex may energize this body complex. This should be done for brief periods only, not to exceed 30 of your minutes.

    The use of the pyramid to balance planetary energies still functions to a slight extent, but due to earth changes, the pyramids are no longer aligned properly for this work.
    My conclution:
    Healing activity were in King chamber but require crystal, now the best location is in queens chamber.

    I think we should see if putting orgonite (which should contain crystal) in king's chamber position can change blackchisel pyramid to produce good energy instead.
    Last edited by sucahyo; 10-23-2010, 05:22 AM.

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  • future pather
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    Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
    It seems the king chamber location is dangerous and should be avoided. And queen chamber is the position for healing. there is also reverse aging position under queen chamber.
    I took the info about the kings chamber to be specific about current conditions on earth. I think all the pyramids were intended for good use but the conditions must be a certain way and proper use must occur.

    "Is the large pyramid at Giza still usable for this purpose, or is it no longer functional?

    Ra: I am Ra. That, like many other pyramid structures, is like the piano out of tune. It, as this instrument would express, plays the tune but, oh, so poorly. The disharmony jangles the sensitive. Only the ghost of the streaming still remains due to the shifting of the streaming points which is in turn due to the shifting electromagnetic field of your planet; due also to the discordant vibratory complexes of those who have used the initiatory and healing place for less compassionate purposes. . . .


    It is quite possible for you to build a pyramid structure. The material used is not critical, merely the ratios of time/space complexes. However, the use of the structure for initiation and healing depends completely upon the inner disciplines of the channels attempting such work."


    Very interesting . I read that purple and black are bad. From the note it seems crystal is required on top of king chamber position too?[/QUOTE]

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  • sucahyo
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    My note from future panther link
    Furthermore, as we have said, the powerful effect of the pyramid, with its mandatory disruption of the armoring, if used without the crystallized being, used with the wrong intention, or in the wrong configuration, can result in further distortions of entities which are perhaps the equal of some of your chemicals which cause disruptions in the energy fields in like manner.

    ...

    The pyramid may be used for the improvement of the meditative state as long as the shape is such that the entity is in Queen's Chamber position or entities are in balanced configuration about this central point.

    The small pyramid shape, placed beneath a portion of the body complex may energize this body complex. This should be done for brief periods only, not to exceed 30 of your minutes.

    ...

    Thus this is the place of the initiate, for many extraneous items or distortions will leave the entity as it intensifies its seeking, so that it may become one with this centralized and purified in-coming light.

    ...

    Your assumption is correct. If the shape is of appropriate size it may be placed directly beneath the cushion of the head or the pallet upon which the body complex rests.

    We again caution that the third spiral of upward lining light, that which is emitted from the apex of this shape, is most deleterious to an entity in overdose and should not be used over-long.
    ...

    Only the proportion of the height of the pyramid from base to apex to the perimeter of the base is at all important.

    ...

    the sum of the four base sides should be 1.16 of the height of the pyramid

    ...

    The dangerousreverse aging, ....Aging is a function of the effects of various electro-magnetic fields upon the electromagnetic fields of the mind/body/spirit complex. In this position there is no input or disturbance of the fields, nor is any activity within the electro-magnetic field complex of the mind/body/spirit complex allowed full sway. The vacuum sucks any such disturbance away. Thus the entity feels nothing and is suspended.

    ...

    Given that the proportions are such as to develop the spirals in the Giza pyramid, the most appropriate size for use beneath the head is an overall height small enough to make placing it under the cushion of the head a comfortable thing. ...For energy through the apex angle the Giza pyramid offers an excellent model. Simply be sure the pyramid is so small that there is no entity small enough to crawl inside it.

    ...

    In most cases, no more than one. In a few cases, especially where the energy will be used for spiritual work, experimentation with two shorter periods might be possible, but any feeling of sudden weariness would be a sure sign that the entity had been over-radiated.

    ...

    There is no application for direct healing using this energy although, if used in conjunction with meditation, it may offer to a certain percentage of entities some aid in meditation. In most cases it is most helpful in alleviating weariness and in the stimulation of physical or sexual activity.
    Seems pyramid is similar to orgone accumulator treatment and the use of any disinfectant or anti bactery, where we should never use it too long. The overdose symptom match Reich deadly orgone overdose and the stimulation effect match the definition of Reichenbach od positive (deadly orgone = od positive, life orgone = od negative). The reverse aging seems similar to life orgone, so life orgone location exist just like what blackchisel found to have warmth radiating from hand.

    It seems the king chamber location is dangerous and should be avoided. And queen chamber is the position for healing. there is also reverse aging position under queen chamber.


    Originally posted by blackchisel97 View Post
    Away from home but asked my wife to place orgonite on different levels inside pyramid. There is a different energy field and aura has change color to light blue. Purple and black is gone. Also, there is not observed yet deterioration process on some veggie samples placed inside as it was happening fast before - faster than another batch placed away. Too early to tell but something is different.


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    Very interesting . I read that purple and black are bad. From the note it seems crystal is required on top of king chamber position too?
    Last edited by sucahyo; 10-22-2010, 06:35 AM.

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  • blackchisel97
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    more tests with orgonite inside

    Away from home but asked my wife to place orgonite on different levels inside pyramid. There is a different energy field and aura has change color to light blue. Purple and black is gone. Also, there is not observed yet deterioration process on some veggie samples placed inside as it was happening fast before - faster than another batch placed away. Too early to tell but something is different.


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