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  • Jbignes5
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    Originally posted by shubhamforme View Post
    http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post113228


    go here and check out the simplest overunity generator the "fleet"
    thx
    What the???? Now we got to read adds?

    So anyways. The energy is not changed but in one way. Only the density has changed, with the range running from lowest to highest density. You got to remember the flow you are seeing. This gets complex....

    First off the natural flow of energy or charges in the atmosphere is from highest shell to the center charge of our planet. This charge in the center of our planet is static in nature. The charges flow from upper stratta to ground and some ways below but never completes the journey. It get radiated back into the environment and the process continues. The radiative event happens as the charges get filtered by the earth. They slowly loose their mass because it is being stripped off. The causes heat to form in the crust. The additional energy that we receive from the sun helps maintain a balance and keep us at unity with little fluctuations (seasons).
    So the charge flow is from up to down. When you put a Pyramid on the ground it creates a void in that space and since the charges flow like water a back pressure forms in the hollow section of the pyramid. This happens even with structured pyramids like sticks or wires were made. This version is a wave guide version.
    This back pressure pushes out the tip in a squirting like event. The spectrograph picture are a picture of the flow of charges rushing against the squirt. This causes a rotation of the squirt.
    You must include the geometry in this flow now. As the charges flow over the surface they bunch and add together. The close to the base the more charges or the density of the charges would be very high. This is the reason they had water around the pyramid. They used it for drinking and crops to increase both health of the people and plants. Charged water would be a benefit to both.

    The water does not block the charges only borrows from them and the flow goes around the base and expands into the pyramid twords the tip. This flow is compressed at this point and gains a hell of a force in this process.

    It is ok to use the stick form of the pyramids but you will only get massive results from a solid form that can channel good amount of charges. The better the conductors and dielectric used in this process the higher the output will be.
    Last edited by Jbignes5; 10-16-2010, 02:40 PM.

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  • shubhamforme
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    new generator cop>9 very easy to build




    go here and check out the simplest overunity generator the "fleet"
    thx

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  • blackchisel97
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    Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
    I only conclude it from that single experiment. Is that based on your wife observation or someone else? I found this written in couple different sources, also Les Brown quoted this. My wife did confirm strong field over the apex and weaker at the corners but also different, strong inside.


    I don't use container that can hold twice my pyramid height, I will retry the experiment.

    Anyone else interested in replicating this experiment?

    I predict clear ice based on pendulum reading. My pendulum can not detect bad energy when I put it up side down. I am thinking that pendulum can only detect the dominant energy, not individual places. So when I measure the bad spot my pendulum pick up the most dominant energy, which happen to be a good energy.

    This means that I should never consider good reading as 100% good, it may also leak out some small bad energy. The opposite is also true. With this knowledge, if a pendant detected good generally but leak out bad energy at one spot, then the body part at that spot can be in danger. People who can see this energy is truly blessed.


    If you also put your orac in the same spot as the pyramid, then you may actually have an orac that convert bad energy to good energy. What is the material of your orac? galvanized steel and wood / wool? 40 layers of aluminum and double waxed paper wrapped on glass cylinder.

    Inner side is not metal? Yes, it is.

    Changing strength or even the type of energy as well? it can produce bad thing or good thing depend on size? No, I don't think so.
    I would think that changing the strength for sure. Type of energy should remain the same regardless of size as long as proportions and angles are kept. Again, this is just my theory or feeling.


    Vtech

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  • sucahyo
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    Originally posted by blackchisel97 View Post
    But isn't this wrong? From my understanding, most energy is exiting through an apex (or caping stone) - 80% and remaining 20% from the corners.
    I only conclude it from that single experiment. Is that based on your wife observation or someone else?


    I don't use container that can hold twice my pyramid height, I will retry the experiment.

    Anyone else interested in replicating this experiment?

    Originally posted by blackchisel97 View Post
    If you have tried pendulum before and gave you good reading we'll have to conclude that eiter: they weren't accurate or...pendulum isn't reliable detector in case of pyramid
    I predict clear ice based on pendulum reading. My pendulum can not detect bad energy when I put it up side down. I am thinking that pendulum can only detect the dominant energy, not individual places. So when I measure the bad spot my pendulum pick up the most dominant energy, which happen to be a good energy.

    This means that I should never consider good reading as 100% good, it may also leak out some small bad energy. The opposite is also true. With this knowledge, if a pendant detected good generally but leak out bad energy at one spot, then the body part at that spot can be in danger. People who can see this energy is truly blessed.


    Originally posted by blackchisel97 View Post
    I tried water from my small ORAC and it has a nice smooth taste. It was also confirmed by taste test on few other people without telling them which glass contains what, to eliminate placebo effect. If my house would have some toxic environment wouldn't that affect the ORAC too?
    If you also put your orac in the same spot as the pyramid, then you may actually have an orac that convert bad energy to good energy. What is the material of your orac? galvanized steel and wood / wool?

    Inner side is not metal?



    Originally posted by blackchisel97 View Post
    This is very interesting. For some reason I have this picture in my head of rotating double helix, kind of like DNA.
    Occult chemistry show some of that shape by oxygen derrivative:






    Originally posted by blackchisel97 View Post
    It is solely my belief, not supported by any of my research yet that size does matter, so does frequency. Again, just a feeling.
    Changing strength or even the type of energy as well? it can produce bad thing or good thing depend on size?

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  • blackchisel97
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    Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
    . What a coincidence . That seems to be the similar to what I observe yesterday. Inside a pyramid produce deadly orgone. But isn't this wrong? From my understanding, most energy is exiting through an apex (or caping stone) - 80% and remaining 20% from the corners. What is happening inside, on different levels might be another story and totally different "kind" of energy however, I would never suspect neither being potentially harmful but who knows. I still think that I made a mistake or neglected something. Test the water sample from outside of the pyramid too since my test conclude that the outside produce good energy.

    What I don't expect is it also produce foggy ice inside the pyramid. A lesson not to trust my pendulum too much. If you have tried pendulum before and gave you good reading we'll have to conclude that eiter: they weren't accurate or...pendulum isn't reliable detector in case of pyramid I consider fog as deadly orgone energy. So I theorize that ancient egypt use pyramid like chemotherapy, right amount you can kill the disease and you still survive, too much it might kill you too.

    This is like what I think as the use of orac. However, the important difference is the area outside the pyramid give out good energy or life orgone, while Wilhelm Reich said to have problem with nuclear radiation enhanced by orac and polluting neighborhood area. It seems like an ORAC "sucks" and accumulates whatever is in the environment atm. If there is too much pollution it may make one sick rather than benefit from. I tried water from my small ORAC and it has a nice smooth taste. It was also confirmed by taste test on few other people without telling them which glass contains what, to eliminate placebo effect. If my house would have some toxic environment wouldn't that affect the ORAC too?

    If pyramid replica produce good energy around them, it explain why animal love to be around. Since 1/3 bellow have good energy, animal love to sleep there.

    Where is the pyramid living room located? higher than 1/3 height?


    I also have a zoomed picture of the air column helix produced in the clear part, the part that I believe produce life orgone.
    It show clearly how the air is formed, twisted and spiraling. - This is very interesting. For some reason I have this picture in my head of rotating double helix, kind of like DNA. I don't know where I suppose to find it but can't get this out of my mind.




    Laozu warn that plastic add negative energy to orgonite. That's interesting

    If size do not matter, then frequency or resonant theory is false.
    It is solely my belief, not supported by any of my research yet that size does matter, so does frequency. Again, just a feeling.


    Vtech

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  • sucahyo
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    Originally posted by blackchisel97 View Post
    Meanwhile my better half decided to follow her intuition and run some additional test with the one we have atm. Interesting, she left key-chain, kind of thermometer/compass gadget inside for awhile. When she picked up it felt like being "loaded". She described this as strong warm field, stronger and different than underground water streams. That gadget is plastic but it felt warmer than plastic in ambient temp. The piece itself wasn't warm but the feeling was coming from it and spreading throughout the arm, to the elbow. She said that this sensation was almost painful. Tonight she was going to freeze some water samples placed in different areas.
    . What a coincidence . That seems to be the similar to what I observe yesterday. Inside a pyramid produce deadly orgone. Test the water sample from outside of the pyramid too since my test conclude that the outside produce good energy.


    Here is my ice result for my pyramid.

    As I expect it produce clear ice.



    What I don't expect is it also produce foggy ice inside the pyramid. A lesson not to trust my pendulum too much. I consider fog as deadly orgone energy. So I theorize that ancient egypt use pyramid like chemotherapy, right amount you can kill the disease and you still survive, too much it might kill you too.

    This is like what I think as the use of orac. However, the important difference is the area outside the pyramid give out good energy or life orgone, while Wilhelm Reich said to have problem with nuclear radiation enhanced by orac and polluting neighborhood area.

    If pyramid replica produce good energy around them, it explain why animal love to be around. Since 1/3 bellow have good energy, animal love to sleep there.

    Where is the pyramid living room located? higher than 1/3 height?


    I also have a zoomed picture of the air column helix produced in the clear part, the part that I believe produce life orgone:




    It show clearly how the air is formed, twisted and spiralling.




    Laozu warn that plastic add negative energy to orgonite.

    If size do not matter, then frequency or resonant theory is false.
    Last edited by sucahyo; 10-16-2010, 02:22 AM.

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  • blackchisel97
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    QUOTE CosmicFarmer So it seems your pyramid is accumulating the wrong orgone...

    Please re-check your angles to assure they are what they should be. Maybe the angles are wrong? I'll re check everything, thank you for the tip.

    One thing that was learned from orgonite was that quartz can rectify orgone. Yes, I'm aware of that I'll try placing quartz inside on different levels and near the apex. It will also involve some coil arrangements but I have to eliminate some of the "if's" first. I also have learned from hardcore weather modifiers and people who strictly follow Willheim Reich that Don Croft's orgonite is a bad direction. I heard that too but cannot comment.

    Who knows.

    But quartz has been photographed with ultra long exposures in dark boxes to have an energy emit off its tip. Sorry I have no link... :-( for me... Theres alot of aura photographs with crystals improving the aura, anyway, maybe it does something anyway.

    Try this. Get some quartz crystals, double terminated if possible. Tie them up and dangle them from the middle of the pyramid at the 1/3 2/3 and 3/3 meridians. Let it bake in the good vibes for a while and then repeat experiments.
    I have to get a decent one. All I have are quartz but 1 pointers. I'll try that.

    How did you get the color of the energy?
    Thanks to my wife. She can feel and see things which I can't.

    Honestly from what I have read maybe the problem is the angles are wrong. Did you use Phi?
    Yes, that's correct but will check everything again to be sure.


    Thank you for your input and advices
    Vtech

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  • blackchisel97
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    Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
    My radiant sleeping aid have the opposite effect if I ground it. Some people here mention headache from their device if they ground them.

    I don't mention this before because I thought your grounding source is reliable. You should try to connect it with a bucket of water, ungrounded.

    I have an earth ground but will try this too.


    I believe DOR can be produced by your electronics, your well, underground water river, lay line, lief electric wire, bad spot, etc. Your house can become neighboorhood orgone absorber too if your wall have metallic paint or metal part.

    I agree, there are many factors which cannot be ignored. I do have some suspicion about this house (good thing is rental not mine) and hopefully we'll move shortly.


    Electricity or magnetism can not explain why I can see this effect on ice with just stone:



    That is non electric, non magnetic quartz stone. And I do measure it with compass and voltmeter to make sure of it. Fog is a sign of DOR energy, clear part is a sign of POR energy. What you see is alternating layer of POR and DOR produced by a live crystal.


    My version is here, and I think more complete than Reich version:
    http://www.energeticforum.com/health...ead.php?t=5524 Thanks, will look into it.

    Do the bird or other animal like being in your garden with orgonite? Do your sky blue or whiter? Didn't notice any change in sky but My tomatoes seem to enjoy and my dogs wander around quite often, not counting bumblebees trying to build a nest despite our attempts to discourage them.

    Collect all the orgonite you have inside the pyramid and then feel the energy. If the orgonite work like it should, then the energy inside the pyramid must feel good no matter how bad the surrounding is. I passed this to my "partner". I'll get the results soon.

    I strongly believe that a good orgonite produce the same aura as battery negative pole. While bad orgonite will produce the same aura as battery positive pole. I use negative radiant for my radiant sleeping aid.

    I strongly believe that electrosmog is actually deadly orgone. I second that.

    When you build an orgone accumulator, you will collect anything around no matter what it is. I believe you pyramid is strongly influenced with surrounding which happen to be filled with deadly orgone. The pyramid may collect different energy if you put it on the garden. Unfortunately, weather lately isn't that great and pyramid would need to be covered with something (plastic) to make a waterproof.

    Some achieve conversion from deadly orgone to life orgone, but I don't think the science is mature yet. I believe it can be done.

    For pyramid shape, I would try to mimic the real one with:
    size = original size x pi^(n)

    where n must not be fractional, an ordinal number that can be positive or negative.
    Mine was built on Phi ratio.


    Vtech
    Last edited by blackchisel97; 10-16-2010, 12:29 AM. Reason: typo

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  • blackchisel97
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    Originally posted by Jbignes5 View Post
    Shellac was my initial thought. But plastic would be better I would think afterwards and that can be mounted on top of the shellac. You can try foil but a fill would be better afterwards. Maybe some pink granite pured like a cement into the interior. I am sure they have pink granite as a cement.
    Maybe I should look into tumb stones makers supplies and see what they have available. I think I'll make couple smaller ones, glass? I'll see what I can get. I'll re check proportions and angles again when I get home. I was suppose to be there tomorrow and now looks like I'm heading to Pensacola, Ocala and Pompano Beach FL. Lovely I wont be home till end of week. Darn.
    Meanwhile my better half decided to follow her intuition and run some additional test with the one we have atm. Interesting, she left key-chain, kind of thermometer/compass gadget inside for awhile. When she picked up it felt like being "loaded". She described this as strong warm field, stronger and different than underground water streams. That gadget is plastic but it felt warmer than plastic in ambient temp. The piece itself wasn't warm but the feeling was coming from it and spreading throughout the arm, to the elbow. She said that this sensation was almost painful. Tonight she was going to freeze some water samples placed in different areas.
    I hope my house will be in the same spot when I get back. She is a witch and red headed one too


    Vtech

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  • Jbignes5
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    Yeah it doesn't matter...

    It is the pure shape that allows a good result. What you have is a wave guide especially when it is made of wires like you have. It brings organization to the chaotic flow of charges that are streaming to our planets core. There are methods that improve this organization but I believe you know them already.

    Also Phi, I believe should be the ratio to organize the pyramid. Pi was to have it lay flat in reference to the planets cores position. So if one wanted the heaviest building to be perfectly flat in reference to the surface to the core one would need to know that the core was the determining factor of the circle you are trying to lay flat on. The center of the world would have to be known and then one could determine how to lay the first layer of the pyramid to have it stable.

    To find the core would be the simplest. Dangle a string with a weight at the end. Where it points is the core. Of course that would be down. So they had part of the answer already.
    Last edited by Jbignes5; 10-15-2010, 01:24 PM.

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  • sucahyo
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    Lol I forgot about that .

    I guess I have it wrong then I use pi = 3.14, with PHI here is the list:
    23042.88 cm x 18645.68 cm
    14241.28 cm x 11523.66 cm
    8801.60 cm x 7122.01 cm
    5439.69 cm x 4401.65 cm
    3361.91 cm x 2720.37 cm
    2077.78 cm x 1681.28 cm
    1284.14 cm x 1039.09 cm
    793.64 cm x 642.19 cm
    490.50 cm x 396.90 cm
    303.14 cm x 245.30 cm
    187.35 cm x 151.60 cm
    115.79 cm x 93.69 cm
    71.56 cm x 57.91 cm
    44.23 cm x 35.79 cm
    27.33 cm x 22.12 cm
    16.89 cm x 13.67 cm
    10.44 cm x 8.45 cm
    6.45 cm x 5.22 cm
    3.99 cm x 3.23 cm
    2.46 cm x 1.99 cm


    If frequency important then we can try note derrivation. 1 octave is twice bigger or smaller:
    23042.88 cm x 18645.68 cm
    11521.44 cm x 9322.84 cm
    5760.72 cm x 4661.42 cm
    2880.36 cm x 2330.71 cm
    1440.18 cm x 1165.35 cm
    720.09 cm x 582.68 cm
    360.05 cm x 291.34 cm
    180.02 cm x 145.67 cm
    90.01 cm x 72.83 cm
    45.01 cm x 36.42 cm
    22.50 cm x 18.21 cm
    11.25 cm x 9.10 cm
    5.63 cm x 4.55 cm
    2.81 cm x 2.28 cm


    Since I got good result from wrong number I guess it doesn't really matter?
    Last edited by sucahyo; 10-15-2010, 03:57 AM.

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  • Altair
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    Thanks sucahyo,
    great idea to scale following Phi ratio.
    But you wrote Pi which is 3.1416, and I think you meant Phi Golden Ratio (1.618)
    Is that correct ?

    See:
    Phi: 1.618. The best source to the golden section, golden mean, divine proportion, Fibonacci series and phi, 1.618. Explore its application to art, design, life, beauty, mathematics, geometry, stock markets, theology, cosmology and more.

    Altair

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  • sucahyo
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    Here is my pyramid I made just now, made of copper wire. I use pi derrivative of Giza pyramid for each segment length, base x top frame:
    756.00 feet x 611.7348042 feet
    23042.88 cm x 18645.68 cm
    7334.78 cm x 5935.10 cm
    2334.73 cm x 1889.20 cm
    743.17 cm x 601.35 cm
    236.56 cm x 191.42 cm
    75.30 cm x 60.93 cm
    23.97 cm x 19.39 cm
    7.63 cm x 6.17 cm
    2.43 cm x 1.97 cm


    My reason for pi derrivative is if we use pi golden ratio for the geometry why not use pi for the scalling of the real thing as well. I think it is better than using abritrary size or our 10 base mathematic. We only have very limited option for size though.

    I actually cut the segment shorter to accomodate additional length cause by other segment wire width for joining.

    Result:


    With pendulum reading:
    - with only square base without the top frame the energy reading is negative.
    - completed pyramid has positive energy reading everywhere, top or inside or up side down.


    This small pyramid give good feeling.
    Last edited by sucahyo; 10-14-2010, 04:21 AM.

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  • Altair
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    Originally posted by dragon View Post
    It seems to me the 51.8 degree angle would be measured from the tilted walls to the base. It wouldn't be the actual angle on the triangle, more like the tilted angle from the floor once assembled.
    dragon, this is exactly what I'm showing.
    The drawing is a side view of the pyramid, not the planview of a face.
    The planview (view perpendicular to the plane of the triangle) of a face would be 1.572 wide by 1.272 high, for the 11/7 pyramid.
    Last edited by Altair; 10-13-2010, 04:15 PM.

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  • sucahyo
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    Originally posted by CosmicFarmer View Post
    One thing that was learned from orgonite was that quartz can rectify orgone.
    I would say chaotic polarizing.


    Originally posted by CosmicFarmer View Post
    I also have learned from hardcore weather modifiers and people who strictly follow Willheim Reich that Don Croft's orgonite is a bad direction.
    I agree because we can make mistakes easier with Don Crofts way, there are many proof. But I still doubt strict method will give good influence on nature too. I doubt both until there is 100% headache less solution.


    Originally posted by CosmicFarmer View Post
    @Suchyo
    Quartz becomes a resonating dipole when stressed, and water increases volume when frozen. the water squeezes the quartz so there is a little pressure gradient during the freezing process. However, it freezes from outside to in, and basically the fog would have frozen before the crystal got pressurized (maybe). Still, it is interesting! Is it repeatable?
    It is repeatable. Fog is not the only thing a crystal can do, it can make clear ice too with some coil wrapping. same rock inside coil:
    The ice is clear and there are many air helix formed in the ice that look like a line in the picture:



    After putting it up side down the ice has intermittent foggy part where the metal seems to clear the fog stream:



    This is an example of the crystal fog by passing some metal screen layer. The ice is clear at / between the metal screen layer but become foggy after the layer.



    If the effect happen because of piezoelectric then 9V battery would give similar effect, but it didn't.

    Not all quartz can change ice, there are people who fail to get those result.

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