Stingo Solid State Battery Charger

[sucahyo]

Sucahyo, here is my new picture with comparison two home made inverters , first one picture is two mosfets lightening 15 W bulb, second one is six 2n3055 inverter lightening the same bulb with mAmps and voltage readings, just because you asked for it...

Many thanks for that . Interesting voltage and amp reading...

Sucahyo, how should we use this to increase efficiency of our radiant circuits, you have to know this better than many :
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/5...gulatorxxx.jpg

I think it may has similar efficiency as MOSFET desulfator. That is a kind of radiant circuit too I guess, but with predefined output voltage.

This switching method must be promising, and that relay switching that we talked about, should we have not adjust 555 timer to flip/flop much more often than just every two minutes ?

Why it has to be fast? Bedini ferris wheel rpm is slow, and he mention us to slow down too...

[cikljamas]

Sucahyo, how should we use this to increase efficiency of our radiant
circuits, you have to know this better than many :

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/5646/voltageregulatorxxx.jpg

This switching method must be promising, and that relay switching
that we talked about, should we have not adjust 555 timer to flip/flop
much more often than just every two minutes ?

Cheers !

[dingo]

Hi Dingo, you have a very good idea a couple of posts up that I don't think anyone has thought of yet, I might try that out on my old junker car one day soon, just to see what happens, not sure how to go about it yet or if it will work, but it's worth a try.

I'm off to the city. Wish me luck. The city is a wierd place, there are some angry people live in the city. They make me do this.

Hi FH...yeah i was testing some Tachometers and they take their pulse from the Coil(-). I dont have a scope, but i noticed it had a 'bite'. Also, while building some CD Ignitions, i put a microwave diode up to the tower.....not really sure what im doing, just playing around...and the idea occured to me

[Farmhand]

Not exactly sure myself yet I haven't made one to scope the output but I imagine the output would be a bit sine-wavy going through a transformer. Most likely not pure sinewave, so to speak. When I build one to scope i'll post some shots.

Cheers

[FRC]

cikljamas

Hi guys !

Farmhand, i remember from my karate days how to count till 5, the rest
i forgot, but i know how to say in japanese I LOVE YOU (ajshtelu, or if
you mean more women ajshtemas), and THANK YOU (aligatou), and that
is all that i need when i enter in concubines house

I must admit that you are almost as good joker as i am
Your last post made me laugh too, especially your shaking with your
head when you meat angry people with flooded houses

What did you mean by your question considering possibility of learning
english over here ? How do you imagine i could know to put that times
together (your lesson-bravo-thanks) without education ? Only throu
internet and books ?...It would not be so easy if at all, learning some
language like that, believe me ! Comma ? Thanks for that, better to
put comma, than to be in coma...

Sucahyo, here is my new picture with comparison two home made
inverters , first one picture is two mosfets lightening 15 W bulb,
second one is six 2n3055 inverter lightening the same bulb with
mAmps and voltage readings, just because you asked for it...

Cheers !

Do these inverters put out a square wave or sine wave ?

FRC

[7imix]

Sucahyo or Farmhand...

You mentioned getting really long arcs from the stingo and a twelve volt supply. I've built several stingos, but never built one that produced long arcs. Can either of you point me to a schematic for making a stingo that produces large arcs (i.e. high voltages)? And what's the highest voltage you've been able to produce?

Thanks!

Check out the videos in my channel if you want to see some sparks. Here's stingo driving a car ignition coil sparking my 7 gap multiple spark gap.

YouTube - Multiple spark gap

Soon I plan on trying a tv flyback I pulled out of an old tv.

[cikljamas]

inverters comparison with same 15 W bulb

Hi guys !

Farmhand, i remember from my karate days how to count till 5, the rest
i forgot, but i know how to say in japanese I LOVE YOU (ajshtelu, or if
you mean more women ajshtemas), and THANK YOU (aligatou), and that
is all that i need when i enter in concubines house

I must admit that you are almost as good joker as i am
Your last post made me laugh too, especially your shaking with your
head when you meat angry people with flooded houses

What did you mean by your question considering possibility of learning
english over here ? How do you imagine i could know to put that times
together (your lesson-bravo-thanks) without education ? Only throu
internet and books ?...It would not be so easy if at all, learning some
language like that, believe me ! Comma ? Thanks for that, better to
put comma, than to be in coma...

Sucahyo, here is my new picture with comparison two home made
inverters , first one picture is two mosfets lightening 15 W bulb,
second one is six 2n3055 inverter lightening the same bulb with
mAmps and voltage readings, just because you asked for it...

Cheers !

[Farmhand]

Sucahyo or Farmhand...

You mentioned getting really long arcs from the stingo and a twelve volt supply. I've built several stingos, but never built one that produced long arcs. Can either of you point me to a schematic for making a stingo that produces large arcs (i.e. high voltages)? And what's the highest voltage you've been able to produce?
Thanks!

Hi skaght, Yeah like sucahyo said you need a car coil or similar, use the low voltage input coil in stingo as the main coil, and get the Sparks or Arks from between the HV output and ground I think it works better with the small condenser that is usually on a car ignition coil. And also better if no charging battery attached, but care should be taken, if no ark is produced and no current flows from the HV the transistors can get quite warm. I used little heat sinks and had no problems though, no burned transistors. I use protection neons aswell.

Here's a vid of Stingo in action with my conical coil spark gap. Lots of fun. There are others there and if you search stingo spark or ark or something you should find some more.
YouTube - AlternateFarmhand1's Channel

This one has some good crackles about the 3.30 m mark
YouTube - AlternateFarmhand1's Channel

[sucahyo]

Wow, after i looked more carefully there is big difference, i am even very much surprised that you could propose that circuit on the right at the first place, it does not make much sense to me (collector and emitter joined together ?), now that i see your new proposal, even before i test it i am sure it must work well !

Whoops, sorry, , my mistake, the right picture is wrong. The second PNP collector should connect to the first PNP base.

And, i forgot to tell you what is the load difference : on the last picture i use 15 W bulb, and there is 700 mAmps consumption, and with 20 W bulb there was 880 mAmps, remember ?

Ok. Can you post the voltage reading too?

And i do not want to change anything in the circuit, like i have to adjust with stingo, in some way it could be disadvantage, but i consider it (no adjusting) more advantage than disadvantage...

I use resistor too in my fixed circuit, because I don't think high COP is much of a problem with adaptor.

Sucahyo, maybe sometimes my words sounds bitter, but i rely on your awareness of my friendly attitude, so if ever my words seemed to be defying/challenging or anything like that you should be aware of my good intentions and absolutely positive attitude towards you
as electronic expert and father of stingo and who knows what besides that !

Thanks .

I don't mind question. It is also my fault for posting wrong diagram. I have interest in solving problem .

Congratulation for the inverter .

slight tangent here...but looking at the Stingo with Ign coil..i was wondering whether a 2nd battery can be radiantly charged from the ignition coil while the car is running i.e. i have an auxilliary battery in my van. If so, how would it be done ?

With step down transformer I think, only as desulfator.

I think it can also make the car engine stop runnning considering how small the car spark is. Maybe comparable to 100mA @12V stingo spark.


I would prefer to build stingo and use alternator output. I think car would not mind additional 500mA consumption.

You mentioned getting really long arcs from the stingo and a twelve volt supply. I've built several stingos, but never built one that produced long arcs. Can either of you point me to a schematic for making a stingo that produces large arcs (i.e. high voltages)? And what's the highest voltage you've been able to produce?

You need high voltage transformer like car coil or neon sign tube transformer or maybe CRT flyback. You can even use adaptor transformer, 12V/120V or 9V/240V what ever you have.

You use the low voltage part as stingo coil, then get the spark from the high voltage part.

I don't know what is my highest record for secondary HV voltage, I don't have high voltage meter, but the voltage of the low voltage part can exceed 1000V, even on analog meter.

The spark gap at low voltage part is really damaging to the transistor or any other electronics connected to the same source. I also have inter coil spark problem with 9V/240V transformer that avoid me having long spark gap ...

[skaght]

sparks

Sucahyo or Farmhand...

You mentioned getting really long arcs from the stingo and a twelve volt supply. I've built several stingos, but never built one that produced long arcs. Can either of you point me to a schematic for making a stingo that produces large arcs (i.e. high voltages)? And what's the highest voltage you've been able to produce?

Thanks!

[Farmhand]

Hi cikljamas, I don't have much time but I had to log on to say, bravo ! Very good, maybe a comma like this , after the word schematic, but thats not important. Just the fact that you can use two languages is very impressive to me. I guess they teach english in schools there. Do they ? They tried to teach me japanese at school, they said we would need it because the japanese would take over all the commerce eventually, well that didn't happen. I didn't learn japanese either, I only learned to count to ten in japanese thats it. Anyway looks like a good inverter to me. I have two commecial inverters but they both drain a lot of power just by turning them on. One uses 500Ma (300w/600w) the other almost an amp (1000/200w) they are pure sinewave inverters though so I should keep them.

Hi Dingo, you have a very good idea a couple of posts up that I don't think anyone has thought of yet, I might try that out on my old junker car one day soon, just to see what happens, not sure how to go about it yet or if it will work, but it's worth a try.

I'm off to the city. Wish me luck. The city is a wierd place, there are some angry people live in the city. They make me do this.

[cikljamas]

complete setup

Here it is, complete setup with transformer and soldered circuit...
All you have to do is make it and turn on the light in your garage
in some wilderness or farm, or farm in wilderness...

And Farmhand, now i have to thank you too for this circuit and
for english grammar lesson that you are going to give me for
free, or if it is not for free charge it...

Well, if next sentence was correct grammatically than you just
should say : bravo !, but if it was not correct than you should
write down how it should be, here it is :

If you had not asked me about this inverters schematic i
would have not found it on the web !

Thanks !

Cheers !

[dingo]

slight tangent here...but looking at the Stingo with Ign coil..i was wondering whether a 2nd battery can be radiantly charged from the ignition coil while the car is running i.e. i have an auxilliary battery in my van. If so, how would it be done ?

Thx

[cikljamas]

Sucahyo, maybe sometimes my words sounds bitter,
but i rely on your awareness of my friendly attitude,
so if ever my words seemed to be defying/challenging
or anything like that you should be aware of my good
intentions and absolutely positive attitude towards you
as electronic expert and father of stingo and who knows
what besides that !

So, i thought that maybe there is no need for above
explanation, but since i am not sure that you know
that i am one of those who never forget good deeds
(and you did a lot of good deeds) of other people
i just had feeling that i have to write these words
as kind of remembrance and gratitude to you and
your admirable work !

Thanks once again !

I am assembling this inventer to be able to use
it more practically in future and make space on
the test board for new testings, and next one is
going to be two tip 32 circuit of course !

Cheers !

[cikljamas]

Wow, after i looked more carefully there is big difference, i am even
very much surprised that you could propose that circuit on the right
at the first place, it does not make much sense to me (collector and
emitter joined together ?), now that i see your new proposal, even
before i test it i am sure it must work well !

And, i forgot to tell you what is the load difference : on the last
picture i use 15 W bulb, and there is 700 mAmps consumption,
and with 20 W bulb there was 880 mAmps, remember ?

And i did not make any adjusting with pots, if you compare
last picture and that one before you can notice that i removed
potentiometer on the last picture, so i replaced it with resistor
with same value that was set in the circuit by potentiometer
just because to see what is going to happen when i change
the load without any adjusting in the circuit...

And i do not want to change anything in the circuit, like i have
to adjust with stingo, in some way it could be disadvantage,
but i consider it (no adjusting) more advantage than disadvantage...

Cheers !