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  • gravityblock
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    Light is a bipolar force with both an attractive and repulsive component that can be controlled. Maybe David's device can achieve this on a macro scale.

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    Last edited by gravityblock; 07-31-2010, 07:26 PM.

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  • Harvey
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    Originally posted by david lambright View Post
    OK...we can see "heat" rising, most of the time with smoke or steam, or see the rippling effect distorting the images in the background, like a mirage...so why do we not "see" the wind distorting the image also...at what temperature do these distortions become visible?...if the force that distorts light can be made artificially, by itself, without heat or wind movement...what would it be?..david
    We do see distortions along the boundaries between high and low pressures but the incidence angle of the light has to be within a specific range. It's like looking straight down at a pool of water with a long pole laying at an angle - you really cannot tell how deep it is because there is no distortion or reference. But from a side angle you get a better idea of the distortion. So with air, it is like looking through bifocals, you have to have a transition across the boundary to really detect the difference. With heat, the boundaries are very tightly curved and much more pronounced. With air the boundaries can be thousands of miles long. Whirlwinds and dust-devils probably give the best chance at observing this, but they usually pick up debris that causes us to focus on the wrong thing. Have you every seen a shadow from air disturbance but couldn't see the actual disturbance? I have, many times. So it is clear that the disturbance is sufficient to mask the light off in other directions, but from the viewing angle it could not clearly be detected at the source.

    You may find this article interesting http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc..._Z6vHAqYLfFlTg

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  • david lambright
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    fluid movement...

    OK...we can see "heat" rising, most of the time with smoke or steam, or see the rippling effect distorting the images in the background, like a mirage...so why do we not "see" the wind distorting the image also...at what temperature do these distortions become visible?...if the force that distorts light can be made artificially, by itself, without heat or wind movement...what would it be?..david

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  • rave154
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    JET / harvey,

    i will look forwards very much to that test too

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  • Jetijs
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    Ok Harvey, will try that

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  • Harvey
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    Originally posted by Jetijs View Post
    Hi David, hope all is well with you.
    I just forgot to mention that I tried to magnetize my 3 laser cut wheels and put them on a rotating platform and get it to rotate up to 3000RPM. Did not see anything, but sensitives claimed they see all the room filled with wavelike light distortions emanating from the device. I wont rest till I see this with my own eyes. I am trying to get some tool steel now to cut the same wheel from that material. This will enable me to make strong magnetic poles on each of the segments, like on the wheel at Coral castle.
    Thank you all
    Jetijs
    Hi Jet, I would be very interested in whether the waves can travel through paper, cardboard and other materials or if they are absorbed.

    Perhaps you could get the sensitives to do an experiment to find out. Maybe place the device under one of two boxes and see if they can tell which has the waves. If they can't, then we can deduce that either the waves are absorbed or the sensitives are not able to detect them when they are covered up. But I do think it would be a very good test, especially with different materials.

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  • Harvey
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    Originally posted by david lambright View Post
    the force that pushes heat up, or rather away from the center of mass was coined "levity", opposite of gravity....i think i said that right?.....any fluid movement causes distortion...when water moves, when air moves, although not as visible...differing pressures or density cause molecular movement in fluids...but all matter can be fluid...EM radiation can propagate in a vacuum, i think thats right.....so far......ill be back later today.........david
    Hi David, 'Levity' typically has a meaning in everyday life as being flippant, giddy or lacking real seriousness.

    However, as that link shows, it can also mean "a lightness in weight". Of course, this can also refer to "weighty matters" like serious legal concerns. For example: "The Lawyer brought a bit of levity to the case when he called Krusty the Clown to the stand"

    In most scientific circles, the opposite of gravity is called antigravity and 'Levitation' is the act of applying a force in opposition to gravity, like the Maglev transports.

    As far as fluids go, it looks as though you have a good handle on that

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  • Jetijs
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    Hi David, hope all is well with you.
    I just forgot to mention that I tried to magnetize my 3 laser cut wheels and put them on a rotating platform and get it to rotate up to 3000RPM. Did not see anything, but sensitives claimed they see all the room filled with wavelike light distortions emanating from the device. I wont rest till I see this with my own eyes. I am trying to get some tool steel now to cut the same wheel from that material. This will enable me to make strong magnetic poles on each of the segments, like on the wheel at Coral castle.
    Thank you all
    Jetijs

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  • david lambright
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    levity?

    the force that pushes heat up, or rather away from the center of mass was coined "levity", opposite of gravity....i think i said that right?.....any fluid movement causes distortion...when water moves, when air moves, although not as visible...differing pressures or density cause molecular movement in fluids...but all matter can be fluid...EM radiation can propagate in a vacuum, i think thats right.....so far......ill be back later today.........david

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  • Harvey
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    Originally posted by rave154 View Post
    hi all,

    in an attempt to clarify wether what is apparently being seen is real or merely an artifact of the camera or video codec etc....

    make a mock up of the PMH....using say...cardboard toilet rolls cut in half....held together with the same cable ties or tape etc...


    place them side by side...film the real PMH so as the "glimmer" is visible...then simply pan over a little to the mock up......and compare

    hope this helps
    I already did the mock-up, no joy.

    But if CatLady gets a rig to test, I will do this with my mock-up and the rig she gets.

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  • broli
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    Originally posted by CatLady View Post
    We will be patient David. I feel for you. I did see Bruce sign in twice over on Overunity Forum but he has not posted anything. Does not make sense to me for someone to accept a device from someone and then just not get back to them. We do look forward for all the next tests and results. Thank you for sharing.



    TruthBeKnown
    Not making sense is being polite, its plain disrespectful and selfish no matter the situation (unless he has gotten carried off to guantanamo bay or fell off a mountain).

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  • CatLady
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    Patience

    Originally posted by david lambright View Post
    i just wish bruce would come back and let us know what he has found out ...i am building two devices right now, one to send to matt and jetijs and a larger model for my own tests...the device needs to tested by someone else....i will take this to a university where there can be better photographs and video made, and much better testing than i can do...i will try to video the devices before i energize them, as well as after ...this device does some things that are not easily explained...this has been overlooked or dismissed by main stream science....if it was easy, it would have been "discovered" long ago...many scientists have studied this type of thing, the similarities to others work tells us this...i would like to see this open doors to what we do not yet understand...but moving too fast may hinder rather than help...like i said before, i do not have much money, but i will invest all of my resources that i am able to, to further our understanding of what is going on with this device...please be patient...i thank everyone for their help, i could not have got this far without help....and many thanks to ENERGETIC FORUM for letting me post here....sorry if i do not get back to everyone with their suggestions and testing methods....i am trying to do as much i can by myself, and i am driving my girl crazy with all of this...so please be patient, OK....david


    We will be patient David. I feel for you. I did see Bruce sign in twice over on Overunity Forum but he has not posted anything. Does not make sense to me for someone to accept a device from someone and then just not get back to them. We do look forward for all the next tests and results. Thank you for sharing.



    TruthBeKnown

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  • david lambright
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    problems...

    i just wish bruce would come back and let us know what he has found out ...i am building two devices right now, one to send to matt and jetijs and a larger model for my own tests...the device needs to tested by someone else....i will take this to a university where there can be better photographs and video made, and much better testing than i can do...i will try to video the devices before i energize them, as well as after ...this device does some things that are not easily explained...this has been overlooked or dismissed by main stream science....if it was easy, it would have been "discovered" long ago...many scientists have studied this type of thing, the similarities to others work tells us this...i would like to see this open doors to what we do not yet understand...but moving too fast may hinder rather than help...like i said before, i do not have much money, but i will invest all of my resources that i am able to, to further our understanding of what is going on with this device...please be patient...i thank everyone for their help, i could not have got this far without help....and many thanks to ENERGETIC FORUM for letting me post here....sorry if i do not get back to everyone with their suggestions and testing methods....i am trying to do as much i can by myself, and i am driving my girl crazy with all of this...so please be patient, OK....david

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  • rave154
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    cloxxi, thats an even better idea !!!!

    video the device with the effect.....then without moving or changing shots...simply break the lock...and see what can be seen

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  • Cloxxki
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    Or simply photograph an unlocked device, as the effect is attributed to the magnetic action?

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