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  • david lambright
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    hi woopy!

    have you tried to see if you could get the ice to sink..yet?...does the ice right around the PMH have different properties?... just a couple of Qs.....david

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  • Harvey
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    Originally posted by woopy View Post
    Hi All

    i just made a small test.
    I took 2 identical glasses. one with tap water and one with the water of the meltdown pmh deicing.

    At the same voltage it seems very clear that the meltdown water perform poorly in comparison with the tap water.

    So my question

    A- is the icing and meltingdown of water purifying , as in comparison with evaporation and recondensation (alambic to get distilled water) ?

    B- or is the pmh modifying (purifying ) the water By modifying the state when icing. ? Is it eventually a sign of orgone ?

    thank's for comments and suggestions

    Laurent
    I am melting mine down and will do a new freeze with a cover to prevent air borne water deposition.

    Hopefully it will be clearer and with no build up.

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  • Harvey
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    Originally posted by Loadstone View Post
    Hey Jedi,
    I haven't used a coil on my NS...NS setup because the magnets stick together pretty well in that order.

    Ed wrote " If I open my eye a little more and look sharper (at the sky), then I can see round shining things running in every direction in jumpy paths. Some leave shiny wave like a path before they disappear. Each shiny thing is many times smaller than each smallest bead. They are not crowded, they all use the same speed, but the speed is a little too fast for good observation.

    To see finer things yet, I look in a gray cloud with the eye open until I see a darker spot. When the spot begins to boil in the middle, then I can see tiny multi-colored streaks running out of the middle. The scene lasts about a minute and when it is gone then nobody can know when the next scene will come around." Ed.L, () by LS.

    The above was said by another member to have something to do with cells in the eye.
    I can see the shiny things and the boiling fairly easily outside but not inside.
    If I look out a window I can see the effect, but not inside at night.
    I was about eight years old when I first noticed this phenomenon which is very obvious when standing in fog with nothing in view. The eyes have nothing to focus on but the retina is able to differentiate the motion of objects in the liquid inside the eyeball and outside the eye on the surface of the lens. One way you know it is on your eye and not something in the atmosphere, is when you try and follow a particular particle it runs away (because it is on the eye and when you move the eye the particle moves with it). Particles in the inner eyeball are a little less obvious this way because the liquid inside tends to stay in place by inertia when the eye moves around it, and then begins moving after the eye stops. You can simulate this with a beverage in a cup (it helps if there are bubbles or ice) - rotate the cup quickly and watch the liquid inside - it stays in place as the cup is rotated, but the adhesion and cohesion eventually catch up and then it begins rotating. Likewise 'floaters' as they are called can seem to move against the motion of the eye and then they catch up later.

    Another phenomenon I have seen, related to hypertension I have heard, are very bright streaks like shooting stars that cross the visual path and leave a fading trail. My father complains of these as well.

    But the most disturbing optical action I have experienced was during a period of serious sleep deprivation and eyestrain. Even after a few hours sleep the problem persisted and I imagined that it could have been related to some blood related event in the visual cortex. In the middle of my field of vision a section of imagery would become inverted - it was there regardless of which eye was closed and prevented any normal focus. The area observed was only a small fraction of the overall field and would represent the diameter of a dime on my monitor three feet away. But it was very problematic. Even after 3 hours sleep, it was still there. It took a full 10 hours of rest before it was remedied. In addition to the inverted section, the boundary between that section and the surrounding normal vision was skewed with radial color streaks and out of focus blurs. Evidently, it had something to do with that portion of our vision we call the 'center' of focus.

    Another strange thing I have experienced during continuous staring, is that if the eyes are kept very still and centered on the same image, eventually the image will fade away. In some cases the image will alternate between one eye and the other eye. Each fading away in its turn. This also seems to be preceded by a measure of tunnel vision. I concluded that this is a natural response to an unchanging image where the eyes do not transmit the repeated values to the brain until queried to do so. When the brain encounters what seems to be a failure it will initiate steps to test that failure. A similar thing happens with our ears. If the ears seem to stop functioning, the brain will vibrate the drum and initiate a ringing as a type of calibration. This is most noticeable in very quiet environments or environments with a lot of white noise. I recall there was one girl whose ear rang so loud that her sister could hear it sitting next to her during piano lessons. Here is a different article on the same topic:Sign in to read: Our ears may have built-in passwords - tech - 13 April 2009 - New Scientist

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  • woopy
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    electrolis

    Hi All

    i just made a small test.
    I took 2 identical glasses. one with tap water and one with the water of the meltdown pmh deicing.

    At the same voltage it seems very clear that the meltdown water perform poorly in comparison with the tap water.

    So my question

    A- is the icing and meltingdown of water purifying , as in comparison with evaporation and recondensation (alambic to get distilled water) ?

    B- or is the pmh modifying (purifying ) the water By modifying the state when icing. ? Is it eventually a sign of orgone ?

    thank's for comments and suggestions

    Laurent

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  • Loadstone
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    Hey Jedi,
    I haven't used a coil on my NS...NS setup because the magnets stick together pretty well in that order.

    Ed wrote " If I open my eye a little more and look sharper (at the sky), then I can see round shining things running in every direction in jumpy paths. Some leave shiny wave like a path before they disappear. Each shiny thing is many times smaller than each smallest bead. They are not crowded, they all use the same speed, but the speed is a little too fast for good observation.

    To see finer things yet, I look in a gray cloud with the eye open until I see a darker spot. When the spot begins to boil in the middle, then I can see tiny multi-colored streaks running out of the middle. The scene lasts about a minute and when it is gone then nobody can know when the next scene will come around." Ed.L, () by LS.

    The above was said by another member to have something to do with cells in the eye.
    I can see the shiny things and the boiling fairly easily outside but not inside.
    If I look out a window I can see the effect, but not inside at night.

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  • woopy
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    Hi all

    @ Harvey

    Yes what i mean is to install your camera on a tripod and than spin your device and let it winddown until stop.

    Thank's for the pix. If i see correctly in the middle of your ice bloc you have a part which goes up (expansion)and just near a part which make a hole (contraction) ? is it right ?

    @Sucahyo

    How to check if it is orgone . Any idea ?
    I will try to electrolise the meltdown water to see if it is better as the original tap water. And poor some in a plant. Who knows

    @David

    Yes bravo for your dad.
    Yes good idea to try to put the pmh near a glass of water and freeze it
    And thank's for your input.

    And now some very interesting results.

    pix 1 is the set up with orientation in my freezer. Notice that the pmh is put on a rubber about 12 mm above the bottom of container. The charge input is 12 volts one or 2 touch.

    pix 2 is the view of the icing from the bottom (for easier representation i have flip the image to have the same view as pictured from above.
    notice the red arrows show zones where the ice is very clear but not thick.
    the blue one show zone of expension thickness.
    very complex flux indeed.

    pix 3 is the same but more contrasted and i have marked the relevant points.

    pix 4 is a side view showing clearly the 2 small monts with the small valley.

    pix 5 shows a top view during the meltingdown, and where you can see the more thick monts upper right

    Awaiting your comments

    good luck at all

    Laurent
    Last edited by woopy; 05-16-2011, 09:34 PM.

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  • Harvey
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    Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
    Different. My video version are showing the difference between image, not to outline the edge.

    I still wondering how people can see the energy even from picture. That must mean the information is there but the process is still unknown. It seems contrast difference is not the answer.

    Maybe a color shift? I don't think algorithm to detect color shift exists, so we may have to make it.

    That is nice .

    An appropriate background seems very important. My sky is very blue this sunday and I can see tree have an outline. Anyone can take with PMH picture with blue sky background?
    Yes, I see what you mean - your technique gives a pixel when something has changed - the video I did in Sketch Mode is very different. Thanx.

    We perceive color as a mixture of frequencies centered around 3 specific peaks, Red, Green & Blue. Those are the only sensors we have in our eyes. All other variants of color and hue and tint etc are overlaps and shifts around those 3 peaks. When the receptors are overwhelmed with energy of a given frequency, it takes time for that energy to fully dissipate and be converted to the nerve impulses our brain is able to process. This creates in us the persistence of vision phenomenon which our televisions and movies take advantage of. It is also the cause of "night blindness" where seeing a bright white light in the dark can prevent the eyes from seeing other lights for up to 1/2 hour. This is a serious issue for pilots and is seriously avoided.

    Also, our eyes function similar to your motion detection technique in that they average out a given energy level and really only transmit the changes to our brain. While this may enhance our ability to detect differentials with great detail, it does allow for our eyes to be fooled. Events can occur that we simply do not detect because the differential was not long enough and got averaged out. And even when it is long enough, often times our brain completely disregards it.

    It is possible then, that there is a change occurring - not necessarily a color shift, but possibly a phase shift or a void in the light pattern that is occurring much faster than our eyes can pickup. But it could be causing a harmonic interference pattern in the intensity of the POV at a frequency near that of certain colors. These shadows or voids in the photon stream may be interpreted as colors or motion or waves or all three. If the photon stream is being interrupted, then we probably have a situation where mass, space or time is somehow altering the normal function of the photon in its trajectory or energy level.

    These voids or shadows may be recorded in the videos. A careful analysis of the line by line data stream may expose some repeating patterns. But I would think that only the HD raw files should be used, not those converted for web upload. It does seem reasonable, that if the eyes can develop these interference patterns, then the CMOS or CCD sensors could as well - but maybe not exactly the same way.

    It sure is interesting to ponder all the possibilities

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  • Harvey
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    Originally posted by david lambright View Post
    he finally saw it!!!...my dad saw it today!!...i am so happy...anyway, it was daylight with the sun a little to the east, he was standing facing south.....having the device back lit may be key in seeing it better......david
    This is good news

    Then there may be hope for me yet

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  • david lambright
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    sucahyo...

    i was thinking about some past experiments, with powdered metals suspended in oil, not like ferro fluid, the particles will settle out if undisturbed...a PMH near the oil/metal liquid, you could see the particles "flowing" down...the particles were falling yes, but the wave like effects are interesting...does the orgone radiate energy when near a PMH?....david

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  • sucahyo
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    Originally posted by Harvey View Post
    Is this similar to your technique? I am wondering if there is anything in those videos that can show up in your techniques with them.
    Different. My video version are showing the difference between image, not to outline the edge.

    I still wondering how people can see the energy even from picture. That must mean the information is there but the process is still unknown. It seems contrast difference is not the answer.

    Maybe a color shift? I don't think algorithm to detect color shift exists, so we may have to make it.

    Originally posted by david lambright View Post
    he finally saw it!!!...my dad saw it today!!...i am so happy...anyway, it was daylight with the sun a little to the east, he was standing facing south.....having the device back lit may be key in seeing it better......david
    That is nice .

    An appropriate background seems very important. My sky is very blue this sunday and I can see tree have an outline. Anyone can take with PMH picture with blue sky background?

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  • david lambright
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    dad...

    he finally saw it!!!...my dad saw it today!!...i am so happy...anyway, it was daylight with the sun a little to the east, he was standing facing south.....having the device back lit may be key in seeing it better......david

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  • Harvey
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    Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
    If my opinion is needed here, then my answer is orgone.

    good luck all.

    Thanks Sucayo,

    Did you see YouTube - Lambright - 005 using the Sketch Mode camera setting?

    Is this similar to your technique? I am wondering if there is anything in those videos that can show up in your techniques with them.

    Thanx.

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  • sucahyo
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    Originally posted by woopy View Post
    As for me i go on in icing test. So far it is the only mean i have found to see something in this radiation waves. But there is no doubt that the assymetry is there. This morning i asked my daughter to let her hands on a completely iced pmh. And estonishly she sayd that the "heat spot was where there was less thickness of ice ?? " So a question does the pmh Compress the water icing process on one side and depress on the other ??

    And the question is why ? Any idea ?
    If my opinion is needed here, then my answer is orgone.

    good luck all.

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  • Harvey
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    Originally posted by woopy View Post
    Hi All

    great work here

    @ Harvey

    please could you repost a better pix of your device once completely iced. The previous pix do not clearly show the depression in the center. I know that it is difficult to show the variation of form on ice, but try, it would be very helpfull.

    and please can you make a new video with the cam fixed above the device without moving. So perhaps we could learn to see the subtility that David try to teach us. Thank's

    @ Jetijs

    Did you already made some test ?

    As for me i go on in icing test. So far it is the only mean i have found to see something in this radiation waves. But there is no doubt that the assymetry is there. This morning i asked my daughter to let her hands on a completely iced pmh. And estonishly she sayd that the "heat spot was where there was less thickness of ice ?? " So a question does the pmh Compress the water icing process on one side and depress on the other ??

    And the question is why ? Any idea ?

    Have some more icing this night. We will see tomorrow

    Good luck at all

    Laurent
    Hi Laurent,

    Here is a video showing the Buildup that occurred in the previous depression:YouTube - Lambright - 016

    I'm not sure I understand your request for a still camera , are you requesting I do another HD sequence using a tripod and no camera motion? Or . . . no PMH motion or . . . ???

    Are there any specific lighting requests or preferred camera angles? Shutter speed or f.stop? ( I think this camera is limited to 1/2000 shutter and f.stop 2.0. But I think my son does have a Macro lens if that will help.

    Did you see all the wavy motion in the 'recharge' sequence I did in Lambright - 012 (starting at 5:50 full screen) ? I don't know why there is so much pixel action in that sequence - the camera was still and so was the PMH and the ambient lighting should have been near constant. It is a strange bit of footage

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  • Harvey
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    Ice Complete

    Hi All,

    My previous pics of the icing was in the very first stages of freezing and now it is completely frozen through. Below are all the pictures I have taken thus far and I have returned the ice to the Pyrex container and put it back in the freezer on the PMH to keep.

    The depression developed into a bulge. This is evidently due to humid air inside the freezer blowing on the ice and building up there. This is also undoubtedly the cause for not having a clear block formation. I intend to repeat the test with a shield over the tray to prevent moving air contact with the water.

    However, the radial bubble trails are unmistakable. There is clearly something present to cause these formations.
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    These Posts only allow 15 images including smileys. There is one more image here:http://urad.net/forums/gallery/albums/userpics/M01A0625.JPG

    So that should complete this set =)
    Last edited by Harvey; 09-02-2010, 11:44 PM.

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