Electric Motor Secrets

[sykavy]

Peter
I just saw your video it came in the mail yesterday. All i can say is you have a talent to teach. I understood almost all of it.

I do have a few questions that i had trouble with. How does one handle the possible friction in the Teal piston. When it is in the relaxed mode and not being magnetized, what would keep it from scraping the sides?

Would alluminum work to hold in the magnitism as well as iron? I was thinking that the extra weight could off-set the increase in power.

Btw the tork of the teal example didn't seem strong.

It was a very interesting DVD and i think trade high schools should get a copy of it. There is definitely some more work to be done on the perfection of the electric motor

[Tripled]

Solenoids, Electromagnets, and Electromagnetic Windings by Charles N. Underhill

There are a handful of used copies there.

Solenoids, Electromagnets, and Electromagnetic Windings by Charles N. Underhill,

Internet Archive: Details: Solenoids, electromagnets and electro-magnetic windings ... 223 illustrations

pdf, djvu, text

Here's another reference i found,

Elementary Lectures on Electric Discharges, Waves and Impulses, and other Transients (1911):

Internet Archive: Details: Elementary lectures on electric discharges, waves and impulses, and other transients

Tripled

[Peter Lindemann]

DVD in NTSC format

Well I received the DVD on really good time, seeing it had to get to the UK.

So popped it in my laptop case and thought I would have a look at it in my Hotel Room one evening this week, as working away from home alot at the moment.

But it will not play in my Laptop DVD , I think this is probably because it is not a pressed DVD but just a DVD-R.

Will try it it my DVD Player when I get home, but what a bummer as actually found a free night to watch it and now even more intrigued to view it after reading this thread.

I am sure it will be worth the wait

Regards

Sean.

Sean,

Sorry you couldn't watch my DVD in your laptop. The DVD is professionally duplicated, but it is in NTSC format, not PAL. I hope you can find a player that plays both formats. It plays very well on computers here in the USA.

Once again, sorry for the problem.

Peter

[Peter Lindemann]

Basic Electricity

hahaha yes i wouldnt actually use the microwave tube in the oven or the HV winding in the transformer but the core in the transformer with out the existing coil might be useful. as for the monopole.. use the simplified circut in the monopole3 yahoo discusion group, as peter said for learning about the recovery circut. the cap setup is more advanced. i built that one myself but i am backpeddling even further right now and reading about how a transistor works because yes i built the monopole but now i realize i still dont fully understand how the circut components interact with each other!! All About Circuits : Free Electric Circuits Textbooks my neighbor found this link for me to study transistiors its pretty readable. and i am still trying to locate a copy of the book peter refers to in his dvd "electricity basics"

cheers!
Eric

Eric,

The book you are looking for is Basic Electricity. Amazon.com has 6 copies in hardbound and 54 new and used copies in paper back. Here's the link:

Amazon.com: Basic Electricity: Complete Course, Volumes 1 Through 5: Books: Nooger & Neville Inc. Van Valkenburgh

Good luck,

Peter

[sykavy]

Well I received the DVD on really good time, seeing it had to get to the UK.

So popped it in my laptop case and thought I would have a look at it in my Hotel Room one evening this week, as working away from home alot at the moment.

But it will not play in my Laptop DVD , I think this is probably because it is not a pressed DVD but just a DVD-R.

Will try it it my DVD Player when I get home, but what a bummer as actually found a free night to watch it and now even more intrigued to view it after reading this thread.

I am sure it will be worth the wait

Regards

Sean.

I had simular problems when i recieved DVDs when i lived in Europe. You'll in region 2 USA is in region 1. Microsft will usualy play a region 1 DVD 4x then never again. Try it on a multy systems palyer

[CLaNZeR]

Well I received the DVD on really good time, seeing it had to get to the UK.

So popped it in my laptop case and thought I would have a look at it in my Hotel Room one evening this week, as working away from home alot at the moment.

But it will not play in my Laptop DVD , I think this is probably because it is not a pressed DVD but just a DVD-R.

Will try it it my DVD Player when I get home, but what a bummer as actually found a free night to watch it and now even more intrigued to view it after reading this thread.

I am sure it will be worth the wait

Regards

Sean.

[sykavy]

Sykavy,

Check this out:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/365-bedini-schoolgirl.html#post1537

I wouldn't even worry about recovery, just build a little roller skate wheel motor like the original school girl and learn the principles of that first. It is a fun little machine. I played with mine for about 6 months before I ever build a charging model, which was the dual battery charger (charged cap and discharge with mechanical pulley).

thanks Aaron!

[Aaron]

Bedini Schoolgirl for beginners

Sykavy,

Check this out:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/365-bedini-schoolgirl.html#post1537

I wouldn't even worry about recovery, just build a little roller skate wheel motor like the original school girl and learn the principles of that first. It is a fun little machine. I played with mine for about 6 months before I ever build a charging model, which was the dual battery charger (charged cap and discharge with mechanical pulley).

[sykavy]

hahaha yes i wouldnt actually use the microwave tube in the oven or the HV winding in the transformer but the core in the transformer with out the existing coil might be useful. as for the monopole.. use the simplified circut in the monopole3 yahoo discusion group, as peter said for learning about the recovery circut. the cap setup is more advanced. i built that one myself but i am backpeddling even further right now and reading about how a transistor works because yes i built the monopole but now i realize i still dont fully understand how the circut components interact with each other!! All About Circuits : Free Electric Circuits Textbooks my neighbor found this link for me to study transistiors its pretty readable. and i am still trying to locate a copy of the book peter refers to in his dvd "electricity basics"

cheers!
Eric

Thanks Eric that site will help a lot.

I hope im not too old to learn this stuff anyway it will make agreat hobby!

Do you have link to that discussion group of SG? Thanks agin for ya'lls kindness

[Eric]

hahaha yes i wouldnt actually use the microwave tube in the oven or the HV winding in the transformer but the core in the transformer with out the existing coil might be useful. as for the monopole.. use the simplified circut in the monopole3 yahoo discusion group, as peter said for learning about the recovery circut. the cap setup is more advanced. i built that one myself but i am backpeddling even further right now and reading about how a transistor works because yes i built the monopole but now i realize i still dont fully understand how the circut components interact with each other!! All About Circuits : Free Electric Circuits Textbooks my neighbor found this link for me to study transistiors its pretty readable. and i am still trying to locate a copy of the book peter refers to in his dvd "electricity basics"

cheers!
Eric

[sykavy]

thanks

Those sound like practicle ideas. Im a little afraid of working with a microwave circuit in any form. I think I'll try what Peter suggested. The SG looks like something I might be able to handle.
BTW I have found two designs for the SG motor. I thought at first that it was the original but then i noticed it said (simplified). Now i don't know much about this stuff but i think they took out the capacitors, which if i understood well, was very important to get the radiant energy working. Is this simplified one ok for me to use?

Ps humility is truth

[Eric]

cool flash tutorial on the motors.

Wouldn't it make sense if 2 coils are opposing 180 that one is wound so north is facing the rotor and the oppositve has south facing the rotor so when they both pulse at the same time the magnetic fields aren't opposing?

um when i said cemf wasnt thinking of the magnetic fields directly affecting each other, magneto motive force (mmf), as opposed emf. an mmf will enter the coil creating an electrical force (emf) i dont know if the polarity of the cemf is affected by the polarity of the mmf instead of whether mmf is building up or collapsing. i think i still dont know if this creates the opposing voltage polarity or the (north/south) poles of the incoming field creates the opposing voltage polarity. this is a very interesting point i would like to figure out!! maybe i am wrong!! maybe your idea of opposite poles would allow an additive voltage benefit to your outside input instead of an opposing voltage. in terms of magnetic attraction if i understand it right the iron rotor wont care what the poles are doing. the rotors more interested closing the air gap for the given magnetude of flux passing through the loop.

what do you think?
Eric

[Peter Lindemann]

Sykavy, where to begin...

Thank you for your compliments. Its nice to hear that what I am presenting is understandable.

The best place to start in this process is to build a Bedini SG motor exactly as the project is presented on the builder sites. Rick Friedrich's MONOPOLE 3 group on Yahoo is one of the best places to start. With this motor, you will be able to study the process of the electrical energy recovery in its purest form.

Build a model of this and run it and study it and fine tune it until you can routinely recover over 90% of the electrical energy. When you are familiar and comfortable with this part of the system, then build a SECOND model that has an optical or hall-effect commutator, and study it until you can recover 90% of the electrical energy. Both of the first two models will have magnets on the rotor. Then move on to the attraction motor principle with your THIRD model. This third model will only have an iron rotor, with no magnets.

In this process, always build a completely new model for the next step and leave all of your earlier models in full running condition. Never take a working model apart to use its parts to build the next model. In order to learn properly, you must be able to go back, at a moment of insight, and look at the operation of the earlier models to see the subtle differences in behavior.

Best wishes,

Peter

[Eric]

to sykavy

i say if you have no formal education in this field, your on the right track!! LOL
Peters dvd was my first look inside understanding electric motors and i think im more open to being taught because someone else hasnt spoon fed me these "basics" in school so i am not going to assume i allready "know about this stuff" like so many others ive met have. how to start? 2 things ive learned. 1 if you're genuinly interested and not just curious, and you have a desire or reason to learn. than all you need are some good books to brush up on some basics (like i'm doing!) and dont be afraid to go fourth seek some open minded friends who can answer any questions you might have from reading those books!! 2 is ive learned that "one mans garbage is anouther mans treasure" dont jump out and spend a bunch of money on new materials and fancy tools right away only to waste it if your not sure what your doing with it. first watch the dvd as many times as it takes untill you can start understanding the "what and why" we are looking for in a single coil on an iron core with a rotor that completes the magnetic loop. then try finding old "free" appliances (like the junk microwave i took apart) and look for parts that might have laminated cores and maybe a coil even attached!! study these parts in your hands and try to determine if you can hack, bend, warp, twist, turn, or modify in any other way the existing structure of the part to utilize the "concepts" you learn from the dvd. might be good to make sure your modifications wont cost more than starting from scratch!!. if you have friends or family who are machinists use them!!! i dont yet so im getting charged a minimum of $120 for my project from a local machine shop that has the required tools. personaly i feel its more than worth it to fork out the money because thats the level of my determination. you have to pick your level.

[sykavy]

Hi all,

I've posted an update on the design for the rotary attraction motor. It works better and is easier to make than the "S" rotor. This design goes back to the ideas that worked very well in the Flux Motor. I hope this helps more people start building units that work.

Here is the link:

Rotary Attraction Motor Update

Peter

Hi Peter

I for one am glad you produce what you produce. Thanks to John Bedini and others. Im not a gear head but i do think im a good judge of character and i think you and John are the real thing.
From all that i have read on the web i have seen a continuity of thought on these radiant energy things. I see it as Tesla ( and others of his day, even a Brazilian Catholic Priest!) Schauberger,George CONSTANTINESCO. EV Gray, Richard CLEM, Eugene FRENETTE, Karl SCHAEFFER, Stan Meyers, John Bediniand James L. GRIGGS . They are all dealing with pulsation (electricity, water, air) at high pressure (voltage). They all seemed to have been working on some new way of tapping energy in a new way. This continuity of simular thinking but different materials is very interesting.

I for one am very excited to get your new DVD. I have read your book on "Cold Electricity" a dozen times. Very good!

(Sorry though i have watched your older tesla videos on google also very good!)

My problem is i have reached the point that i would like to do some experimenting but since i have no background in electicity or motors, i dont know were to begin. Id like to join an experimentation group if they exist. Most "normal" electricians and gear heads look at me like i have two heads when i speak about this stuff. Any practicle suggestions? I live in Chicago area.

PS patience is the mother of all virtue