Electric Motor Secrets

[Jetijs]

Hi Peter,
my parts are now ready. I did not post for so long, because my lathe broke down and I had to order some custom made screws to hold the plates together and that took some time. Now all the plates have some layers of varnish on them and the last layer also acts as glue and holds these plates together. Now I just need to drill a bigger hole in the X rotor middle to fit on the shaft tight. Also I need to do some lathe work to fit the rotor into the startor piece, but since my lathe is broken, I will have to get this job done by a local craftsman in his shop. This will take some time as he is always busy Here's a picture:


Thanks
Gatis

[elias]

Not having magnets may decrease HP

Hello,

Well this is certainly an eye opening DVD, thanks Peter.
I was just wondering about not having magnets in attraction motors which may lead to lower overall HP than normal DC motors which have magnets and which they generate counter electricity.

Normal DC motors never pulse they just change the direction of the current flow on the electromagnet on each half revolution, So that changing of direction requires opposing the collapsed field instead of capturing it which causes more current to be drawn. This is besides overcoming the generator effect of the motor (Am I correct?). (Which one is actually termed as "Back EMF"? maybe both)

But normal DC motors use magnets to increase torque, I mean doesn't eliminating magnets like in attraction motors decrease the overall horsepower (magnets provide free energy).

And another thing I was wondering about. If we can get more horsepower for less electricity then We may be able to do this in reverse: Why not build a generator to produce more electricity than the input mechanical energy required. This may be alot easier.

Thanks

[Aaron]

interview available in mp3

For anyone who missed Peter's interview last week, please check this forum for a post for the mp3 link:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/1160-peter-lindemann-radio-interview-oct-1st-noon-1pm-mountain-time.html#post10329

[Peter Lindemann]

No Critique....

Well this might be a little hard to explain in plain words.
But is important that the rotor is free to move-on after an attraction to a given pole.Moviewill result in a No Back-emf motor, because I have a bit of trouble getting the interaction between the various poles that are being generated.

Kind regards,
Steven

Steven,

If you read through all of my posts, you will find numerous differences between what you are proposing and what I am proposing. But its your motor design. Its up to you to build it, test it and tell us what it does. I think the design includes a number of features that will limit its performance.

I am disappointed that no one else has commented on your idea. I applaud you for proposing a unique design but will not critique it myself.

Best wishes,

Peter

[nali2001]

Care to comment?

...
Anyone care to comment on the new motor proposal?

Thanks
Steven

[nali2001]

Photoshop cs2
Now let's return to the topic.

Steven

[Panther]

Hi Steven,

What program did you use to draw this images?

bestregards,
Mike

[nali2001]

Interested

Hi Mike,
Well it goes without saying that I'm interested in that paper as well.
So if you are willing to share it with me it will be much appreciated.

I will drop you a personal message.

Thanks in advance
Kind regards,
Steven

[mrl]

Franc Jakelj design

Steven,

Interesting design. Why do you believe that the fingers on the rotor need to be as wide as they are drawn?

Peter

Hi Peter,

What Steven is sort of describing is a motor configuration that was designed by Franc Jakelj in Slovenia. I have his "Alternative Theory of the Fundamental Operating Principles of Electric Motors" paper (translated from Slovenian). I can send it to you if you like. I can't let it loose on the net because there is money being charged for it. But I will send it to you if you give me an email address. You can then read his paper and analyze his design. It's extremely efficient and powerful according to the test numbers he has published.


Mike

[nali2001]

Rotor explanation.

Well this might be a little hard to explain in plain words.
But is important that the rotor is free to move-on after an attraction to a given pole.Moviewill result in a No Back-emf motor, because I have a bit of trouble getting the interaction between the various poles that are being generated.

Kind regards,
Steven

[Peter Lindemann]

Fingers on the Rotor.....

Hello Peter and all.

I need your input on this one.
Here I might have an idea/suggestion for at least a simple but good quality attraction motor stator. So have a look at this picture.
http://home.planet.nl/~sintt000/AttractionMotor01.jpg

Steven,

Interesting design. Why do you believe that the fingers on the rotor need to be as wide as they are drawn?

Peter

[nali2001]

Motor design suggestion.

Hello Peter and all.

I need your input on this one.
Here I might have an idea/suggestion for at least a simple but good quality attraction motor stator. So have a look at this picture.
http://home.planet.nl/~sintt000/AttractionMotor01.jpg

[Aaron]

purpose of Electric Motor Secrets thread

Just to clarify what this particular thread is about, I'll post message #2 in this thread:

"
Electric Motor Secrets Official Discussion Forum
The purpose of this thread is for the discussion of the DVD by Dr. Peter Lindemann called Electric Motor Secrets.

It would be greatly appreciated if you buy your own copy and watch it before posting any messages here as it will answer almost anything you want to know about Bob Teal's Magnipulsion engine.

However, Dr. Lindemann will be contributing some very helpful information here for those of you who are interested in building any of the versions of the the motor(s) discussed in the DVD.

Please keep your posts in this group on topic: Bob Teal, Magnipulsion, Magneteal, Electric Motor Secrets, etc...

If you want to discuss other attraction motor concepts or similar topics but not directly related to Electric Motor Secrets, please feel free to start a new thread."

This can be found here:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/271-electric-motor-secrets-8.html#post916

That has been there since the beginning of this forum.

I have no problem with people being sincere about asking questions or even debating in a respectable way but outright attacking in our home is not tolerated. This isn't censorship. Bah personally attacked two of my good personal friends Peter & John and that isn't allowed.

If he/she were to act respectable as anyone should coming into someone else's home, I'm sure his message would either still be here or at least it would be moved to a new thread in regards to any skepticism about Peter, John's or Tom Bearden's work.

Also, I left Bah's original message and I left your response to it Amigo. I also left your response to his second message so there are indeed "trails" of another message that there was. I have no interest in covering up or hiding things. It was just that one particular post.

We want to keep this forum an enjoyable place for people to visit so please understand this. It was more how he said what he said that I have an issue with and not necessarily his skepticism.

[Peter Lindemann]

Staying Polite, and ON TOPIC

I find it VERY disturbing that moderators here have chosen to remove the post from "Bah" in which he criticizes lack of final solutions and commercially available units based on alt.energy principles.

I did not find anything wrong with that post, it was someone's opinion and point of view. Removing it from the plain sight without even leaving any trails constitutes censorship of the worst kind.

We, as users of this forum, should not have to fear that our thoughts will be censored because someone else does not like what we are saying or thinking. That is just plain wrong and falls among the worst kinds of oppression, and believe me you would not know of it, but I would.

I was born and have lived in a Communist system where such things happen all the time. Witnessing them first hand and then coming here to the so called "free world" having to experience similar things sends cold shivers up my spine.

By removing the post and suppressing someone's thoughts, yet living in a system that boasts the freedom of speech - by law, is hypocritical and if moderators here are going to continue that way I shall have no part of it.

Dear Amigo,

I asked the Moderator to remove Bah's post because it was off topic and rude.

The purpose of this forum is to create a place where people can come and learn about a new way of building electric motors that produce high torque using magnetic attraction principles (such as in switched reluctance motors) that also take advantage of electrical energy recovery from a collapsing inductor (such as in John Bedini's SG system). Both of these processes are known to work and systems that design them both into the same machine have new advantages.

This is an educational forum for civilized participants. We have no obligation to uphold "free speech" here, or to entertain the uninformed opinions of people with bad attitudes. This is a scientific forum with the specific agenda for sharing and learn new ideas in a supportive environment, free of disruptions and distractions.

Anyone who chooses to post content counter to this agenda will be censored and banned from further posting. There are thousands of other forums where rude, off topic complaining is tolerated and those people can go there. Anyone coming here who is trying to learn the new ideas can enjoy a relatively "on topic" forum as a result.

If anyone feels the need to discuss politics, the limited illusions of "free speech" or communism, please start a different thread.

Peter

[amigo]

What a ... ?

I find it VERY disturbing that moderators here have chosen to remove the post from "Bah" in which he criticizes lack of final solutions and commercially available units based on alt.energy principles.

I did not find anything wrong with that post, it was someone's opinion and point of view. Removing it from the plain sight without even leaving any trails constitutes censorship of the worst kind.

We, as users of this forum, should not have to fear that our thoughts will be censored because someone else does not like what we are saying or thinking. That is just plain wrong and falls among the worst kinds of oppression, and believe me you would not know of it, but I would.

I was born and have lived in a Communist system where such things happen all the time. Witnessing them first hand and then coming here to the so called "free world" having to experience similar things sends cold shivers up my spine.

By removing the post and suppressing someone's thoughts, yet living in a system that boasts the freedom of speech - by law, is hypocritical and if moderators here are going to continue that way I shall have no part of it.