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  • Joit
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    Hi and aleedap.

    When your fan runs, you did nothing damage, it wont work without working Transistor.
    About your mA, the Wires have certain Specifications, how much Amperes they can let through. thicker Wires more, but lower Frequency, thinner Wire lesser, but higher Frequency.
    This Fan is more to make an easy and simple device, to look into it,
    charge some AA or Block batteries and got high Spikes out,
    but they all have mostly thin Wires inside.
    You could look for a Fan with thicker Wire inside, when you want higher Amps.
    My calculation about charging is usual, with how much Amperes you charge,
    that is about the Time you need to charge.
    So, charge with 1 Ah would take for a 7 Ah Batt 7 Hours.
    charging it with 0,1Ah or 100 mA is about 70 Hours.

    But it varies anyway, depends at the Condition of the Batterie and sometimes it goes faster after a While.


    And there are Videos how to make it, just need to read back to the first 4 Pages, and there are some other good Things in the Thread. just a lot Stuff to read through.

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  • Bodkins
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    Originally posted by aleedap View Post
    I am grateful to all who have gone before in these endeavors. I have built the Bedini circuit by Imhotep; followed all rules and have a working circuit! I am charging small batteries ie. 9v However i am only getting 39mA out. I am wondering if I have, through my novice soldering techniques, damaged the transistor or other components (too much heat). What kind of output can I expect and how can I increase my output??

    Thank you to all

    the out put is not about amps its about pressure and the waveform.
    the waveform will make the battery (over a long period of time)change to a negative resistor,
    think about it more pressure bigger waveform more charging.
    good luck

    ps can anyone make a video of how to set up the fan with all the bits,
    we need this thread to go back to basic for people.

    Bx

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  • aleedap
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    39mA

    I am grateful to all who have gone before in these endeavors. I have built the Bedini circuit by Imhotep; followed all rules and have a working circuit! I am charging small batteries ie. 9v However i am only getting 39mA out. I am wondering if I have, through my novice soldering techniques, damaged the transistor or other components (too much heat). What kind of output can I expect and how can I increase my output??

    Thank you to all

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  • Mapmann
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    Shorting okay i know what you mean but if it test the Fan withe i dont know what it mean in English the 4 Pols have conntact too wich no wire on :O it is my 4 Fan but 2 dont worke and know 2 have thise Problem -.-

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  • marseye
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    "Shorting" (not sure : I'm french) is when your 2 wires have an electrical contact together(check for continuity). You should have 2 distincts wires, with 2 poles for each one.
    Have a look there : John Bedini Simplified School Girl basic plans
    the wiring of the regular bifilar coil on this page may help you understand how to hook the 2 distinct wires from your fan's coils. If the fan can't work, it may be because you made a mistake about in/out for each wire. Then, just reverse 1 wire in/out only, and that should work.
    But first, make sure that your 2 wires have no electrical contact with each other.
    Last edited by marseye; 05-16-2009, 11:14 PM.

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  • Mapmann
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    what is a shorting Oo Now i have bring it in the System the new Fan with the 4 contacts If i take Power on it short spin then i feel that power is on the Fan but cant spin what can i do ?

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  • marseye
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    Na, you certainly have a shorting

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  • Mapmann
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    If i check my Fan every Pol of the 4 has contact wiht the other is that right ?

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  • marseye
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    Here are answers for you :
    1- The 'thing' is a potentiometer, which is a sort of variable resistor. You'll need a 1KOhms one. Put a 100 Ohms 1/2 watt resistor after it, just before you attach it to the base (because your potentiometer could fry at very low ohms settings : too much current would cross through it).
    2- A led will light in every case, because it needs only 2V(max) to work. So, yes, you need a neon lamp (see my previous posts on this page)
    3-Once you have your neon bulb (85v or 110v, whatever), then : no, you don't need a charging battery to run your fan. BTW, the neon is needed precisely for that situation, and as an indicator of when you are on the good setting of your potentiometer. Once the neon glows best, you can attach then a battery to receive the energy that your neon shows.
    4- yes, this is the good NPN transistor (2N3055)

    You'll find a longer explanation in my two previous posts above.

    Cheers.
    Last edited by marseye; 05-13-2009, 12:56 PM.

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  • Mapmann
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    Okay i am new
    an first i see this thing on youtube i think wow OO i need thise
    okay here are my Question
    YouTube - Free energy in minutes step by step
    what is the Thing at 4:46 called and what do it ?
    Did i realy need it ?
    and can i take and LED instand the Neon Bulb ?
    and must i take a Battery to charg on ?
    can the System run with no Battry ?

    and is thise (KLICK ME!!!1) the right Transistor ? :O
    hope i get answers and you understand it all
    Last edited by Mapmann; 05-11-2009, 09:22 PM.

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  • jointbk
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  • marseye
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    @ jointbk :
    Click on my name to send me a private message, and include your e-mail address if you need an answer.

    Of course your 12v bulb glows in a 12v system ! Even after a resistor, because if we can light 85v bulbs with such systems, your resistor may be 'compensated'. You need at least a 85v NEON bulb. 110v will do, but I prefer 85v on these fans.

    About charging a battery 12v 7Ah :
    When the voltage comes close to the rated battery voltage, is when you need to be patient. Because 'voltage' is not 'amperage'. And even @ 11.35v, you can say your battery is still 'empty'. It's going to charge, but at your fan's pace; means: to get 1 more amp with a 0,28A fan, you may be waiting for ...3.57H... And you need so many more amps, at that point... The Imhotep's Bedini fan is intended for us to learn about radiant charging'. There's no other 'miracle' than understanding about the 'spikes' phenomena.
    Then, 3 options : 1) be veeeeery patient (days) 2)charge from a slightly higher voltage (some people here like to charge from 24v). 15v is recommended (since a 12v battery reaches 14.4v when fully charged. 12v is a low limit that you should not get too far beyond) 3) try to charge NiMh 9v (and less) batteries, or so : that should be faster to learn. Because what we need to 'see' with it is to compare how long we charge a battery, then how long will last the job asked from it, and start again and again to see if there are improvements in the battery behaviour for the same task. The battery will be cycled at least 5 times in order to see any change... That's what's called 'conditioning'. That's how you'll learn as I did, before you'll finally digg into other systems after that. A real Bedini wheel and its coil are much bigger and powerful, and can certainly charge faster... There are other means to explore in this forum. Lots of them are dealing with coils, transistors, and ignition coils (in french: bobine d'allumage. Beware of high voltage electrical hazards then).

    It's better to charge bateries lower than 12v with your system (ie: cell phone and other accus). You can try to recharge alkaline batteries too before you throw them to the bin too early.


    No matter if you hear a sound coming from your fan : it's the sound of the radiant energy' coming through it ! I'm serious. Each magnets/coils system dealing with 'spikes' will 'sing' at some point.

    And if your modified fan works, you did everything right. If it wasn't, it wouldn't turn.

    Hope it helps. Good luck.
    Last edited by marseye; 05-13-2009, 12:52 PM.

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  • jointbk
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    thanks a lot but...

    Thank you for helping me,
    I really apreciate it.
    Lets pretend that the potentiometre is at almost 1K because I realised that at almost1K the bulb glows the most.

    1) I take the bulb away and connect the charging batterie.(Now the bulb still glows but just a bit.(Is it normal?)) I have two modified fans one at 0,28A and the other at 0,11A. With the two the bulb is lighting but it is probabli because I used a bulb 12V with a resistance conected in series, instead of the 120V bulb.
    2)Now everything connected I turn the fan an it begins to run.
    When it runs it makes a little sound.
    3) the charging batterie is charging but when the charging batt is at 11.35V it stops charging.(strange?)
    4)the other batterie does'nt charg herself up. Or maybe it does but not more than what the fan consumes.

    I tried to to change the cable connection. inverse + and - (not at the batteries but at the fan) and acctualy it also turn but doesn't charg.
    I changed my transistor my diods to make sure they are not grilled but it changed nothing.
    I think that my only mistake is at the fan. but I resd everything, I saw every video but it still doesn't work
    I have realy no Idea what I did wrong but I someone have an idea:
    Please tell me

    And marseye you come certainly from Marseille. I'm from Alsace but if you could give me your e-mail maybe you could tell...

    Thanks to everybody an other time for helping me

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  • marseye
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    @jointbk

    Hi, I'm french too, but will write in English for everyone here to understand

    I've found 85v and 110v neon bulbs at an electronics shop near my place.
    But as their website is very confusing, mainly aimed at branded replacement parts, it's quite impossible to find small general components through it (ie: I could'nt).

    I've found for you a similar 85v neon bulb here :
    optoelectronique : Go Tronic : optoelectroniquethe bulb can light only when no charging battery is attached (and it's intended too for we then can't fry the transistor).

    Good luck in your research.
    Last edited by marseye; 04-25-2009, 11:30 AM.

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  • Bodkins
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    N R Bardwell Ltd - electronic components, transistors, semiconductors, diodes, opto, ic's, leads, connectors, power supply, computer, inverters, switches, disco, batteries, speakers, microphones, fuses, multimeters, boxes, aerial amplifiers. transfor
    they did have some bulb the last time I was in the shop.
    you need to email them to check the stock.
    if you have no luck i will pop down and try and pick some up and send them on to your home address
    Love and Light
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