An Inquiry in to the Alien Reproduction Vehicle

[Gambeir]

@ GAMBEIR regarding Vrill Engine Diagram And your graphite alum can model.

Here is no way I can get carl schappeler's bell or what that thing on diagram was called.

After a bit of thinking over past week I decided to write the following question to you only as an idea or suggestion from my side.

Suppose if I make a rotor with 3-D tetrahedrons and put their apexes into a space between 2 magnets Pointed to each with North poles.

I think it was john bedini who once said that 2 north poles facing each other have power 8x times greater then power of 2 facing south poles.

So Tetrahedron apex between 2 North poles - what you might suggest it might do if anything?

I was thinking of similar experiments if I ever get daily life back under control.

Now I would normally be the first one to admit that all this business would appear to be on the edge of lunancy, but when you begin adding up all the scattered bits of information and the work of Joe Parr, then how this pyramid/tetrahedron business was linked to his work on classified secret work somewhere in Antarctica it becomes basically impossible to ignore.
I would look at the orientation of Joe Parr's magnets. These are normal magnets doubled because this was done long before Neodymium Magnets existed.

It's interesting that he said the machine created a bubble of unknown energy, that the energy was very powerful and more than once blew his machines up. A pyramid as omni directional in form, whereas a tetrahedron is clearly not, so maybe that concept of just blasting out an omni-directional dielectric energy field is evidently not well advised.

Objects form in spirals because obviously the point source of gravity is at center of mass. Viktor Schauberger, Walter Russell, and Ken Wheeler all agree that gravitational energy moves in a centripetal vortex towards the center of mass. Cut an orange in half and what's it look like? The tetrahedrons all point inwards. Actually looks exactly like the ARV's capacitor plate arrangement.

I don't know about Bedini's ideas, but I do know that David Lowrance measured and produced a magnetic repulsion force 137 times that of the normal field strength of an ordinary magnet when placed near a spinning copper disk. So materials matter.
SpinningCylinder

Imagine what that might then be if the energy was focused by a shape such as may be the case with a tetrahedron. I would use copper if it were readily available but aluminum cans are free and evidently have some similar qualities. That's as much directional help as I can give you robur.

[Gambeir]

Some years ago here was a so called KOSOL DEVICE. By some Cambodian guy called Kosol Otch. It was a set of aluminum spheres one inside another total 5.
3 Were placed on 1 axl and 2 on another. between them was a small gap to allow magnets to be placed in a grid that matched meridians on Earth

He claimed when this started it creates unlimited energy anti-gravity you name it.
My friend spent thousands of dollars to build one.
It did absolutely nothing

Are you suggesting some other type of sphere arrangement?
2 Spheres 1 inside another with only small gap between. May be for graphite coating or for something else?

I am also thinking about 2 Aluminum dishes coated with successive layers of Titanium Dioxide and some metal power.

On axle and gap of 4-5 mm between them just enough for them to pass each other. While I spark 10-16kilovolts onto them so they spark across that gap

And when you say ''tension'' what tension do you mean?
Just from spinning 2 spheres inside one another?

No, this is conjecure, not fact. Bugsfly, whom should be listened to, says there is no sphere formed simply due to a spinning state of the magnets. Russians are ahead of dunce Americans. He's working on another system which would be producing a sphere. Will probably have to steal it.

The enlarged magnetic sphere was conjecture.
I now agree with Bugsfly on this; we are already inside the sphere with just being inside the atmosphere. There is evidently no need for another sphere.

Sort of sorry I posted it because it diverts away from a more conventional understanding. Thought of deleting it for that reason.

Instead I think right now it's better to stick with basic ideas. One, that weight in mass is produced by inductive processes. Two, that the dieletric field, seen in magnetic lines of force, is the energy which is inducted into mass. Three, that the induction of energy into mass can be accelerated by rotating magnets because the point source of dielectric induction is through a point source in the bloch wall of the magnet and when spun should be creating an accretion disk. Forthly, that when the primary dielectric is charged (electrostatic field) then the movement or placement of a magnetic field alters the magnetic phase by changing the induction field from a plane to a cone.

If this is correct the Alexey has a static charge applied to the aluminum plate of HF which simulates the static field of earth in AC form. The spinning plate on the bottom carries magnets below the plane of dielectric inertia which is horizontal overhead. The lower plate with the magnets is not a dielectric but the magnet should be drawing in a dieletric circle beneath the aluminum. The net effect is evidently that there is dyssemetry in the dielectric field of induction such that the overhead aluminum plate is acting like a balloon. I think synergies said that. I see it now.

[Gambeir]

I have had experience with electron spin materials.
My problem always been High Voltage gear. No room for it.

May be you had in your childhood days so called mechano set?
I want a musty-purpose device for testing different configurations that is changeable like mechano set. Not a fixed device< but one that can be quickly re-build into different configuration.

If all goes as planned I would have such by September.

I checked evo stik spray glue. It is rubber-based - not solvent.
So not flammable. On rubber means it is a dialectic

Good call robur

[Gambeir]

Sorry, I guess I'm a little all over the place, the thing is that we are diverted with information put in to the matrix, such as Townsend Brown's gravitors, which was probably done to divert attention away from such things as Walter Russell's ideas about "Black Light" and Vortex's, Viktor Schauberger whose drawing of "Otherworldly Vehicle" is virtually a dead ringer for the Alexey, and now Ken Wheeler whose research has combined with the Ferrocell to show a new path.

In other words, bismuth is a material, material give off light, some materials become invisible when stimulated. We know this already.

"Monatomic Minerals were actually being studied in the Soviet Union as early as 1973. In fact, the then Soviet Union was far ahead of the rest of the world in researching water and salt and had already revealed that monatomic minerals were found in sea water and other sources of mined salt. It was only a couple of decades ago that an American farmer, David Hudson, accidentally stumbled upon monatomic gold and other monatomic elements after dousing his fields with sulphuric acid to loosen the mineral salts in his soil. The resulting "white powder" that remained, is reported to exhibited very strange properties, among them, invisibility, negative gravity, and super conductivity. These properties in themselves are remarkable and almost beyond belief"

https://www.facebook.com/redliongold/posts/monatomic-minerals-were-actually-being-studied-in-the-soviet-union-as-early-as-1/643201075765752/

Now I love the reasoning of people: ORMES are Crackpot Science.

https://www.chemicalforums.com/index.php?topic=21707.0

"Anyone here ever heard of these or could give me any insight as to the credibility of such things?"

Gee...atom's maybe, electrons, proton's do these have any more credibility?
How about germs, can't see those either can we, and what about the idea that we can create alloys, that nature itself does transmutation.

It stands to retroductive logic that if you can make something invisible then matter is somehow interacting with what we call gravity since everything else is visible, and if gravity is a matter of a rate of induction in mass then one possible solution is to block the induction. This concept goes back to layering materials and or redirection of dielectric induction in mass. It also suggests that materials have a direct cross correlation to weight which is a result of EM induction.

So I don't know about bismuth creating a temperature change but it does seem to have some sort of ability to take in IR radiation as does aluminum. This suggests that a composite might create heat as a magnifiying glass creates a focused ray. Sort of the same concept in how a magnet may be like a loom weaving together Faraday tubulars into lines of dielectric force.

[Gambeir]

Gambeir
I was wondering if I had missed something [quite sincerely}
a while Back 3-4 years or more ,some had asked Ken if there was
an effect or experiment to prove this theory or show some heretofore
undoable accomplishment that could only be attributed to His research.

He offered an excellent test ,one which all who read it completely agreed
should prove it.
He had done the test himself and was very excited [as were all the readers]
Bismuth and a strong magnet in a vessel would make heat from the magnetic
Vortex interacting with the Bismuth and its very appropriate properties.

Dozens tried it and Lab experiments [calorimetry ]
But found no heat whatsoever ??

It was found that his infrared camera was suspect ,it was a very expensive camera but reflective artifacts seemed to be an issue ?

Has he proven this somewhere empirically ?
would seem a field in motion would indeed manifest at some level a result
or ultimate proof ?



just trying to pay attention and catch up ?

Thx
Chet K
Ps
as always I will remove this post if requested.

Yes, thank you for reminding me. No you didn't miss anything that I'm aware of so I don't think I can answer that specifically. What I can say is there is some evidence (corroborating evidence) that IR radiation has some effect on weight. So the question really is not one of heat but one of which is probaby more significant and should instead be about the light which is emitted from what materials, and of course IR radiation does produce heat, so there what I would be interested in is the propagation of IR radiation.

https://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0109060

Now I have seen that video made by Ken and read many of the comments. It will be noticed that we now have at least 3 video's of UFO's captured on FLIR Cameras, such as the video taken by a U.S. Customs & Border Patrol Helicopter of the Department of Homeland Security in Puerto Rico. A police helicopter in Scottland over the North Sea, and the more recent F-18 Hornet video of the so called Pill UFO. Then CNN supposedly claims that they learned, meaning they were told to tell us, that the USN had a secret program to track UFO's. Secret from us I guess.

Example here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6WoUup-q0Y

Navy Secret Program

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1THwiaXZfzA

This invisibility of some UFO's, as captured by FLIR, and which is evidenced in the behavior of Bismuth is interesting in that a similar quality is found in aluminum, and which absorbs the Infared radiation range but reflects all other light. So now we have what appears to be both Bismuth and Aluminum sharing some sort of cross correlation with the IR radiation band and which is evidently modifying weight in mass.

https://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0109060

Atomistic science see's cause and effect in terms of electron spin states. As a result what I have thought is an experiment using the toy I prviously outlined, such that if the Vee Shaped Tetrahedron was to be exposed to a black light there might be a noticeable improvement in performance. Moreover, if one were to produce a circular track of magnets on a plate and were to spin the plate beneath the tetrahedron then that may itself produce a propulsive force, and finally if while projecting black light on to the tetrahedron we might see levitation if it had not already been produced by the rotation of the moving magnetic field. It would be highly entertaining if that also then resulted in the tetrahedron and plate suddenly becoming invisible as well. Just have not gotten round to fooling with these ideas, but maybe someone else will if I mention them.

We know that a motional magnetic field interacts with certain materials and not with others. Simple logic tells us that motion produces force so no great mystery but often people fail to think of the obvious applications.

In the following links are experiments by David Lowrance, some of which are highly significant in my opinion, primarily because his hypothesis of operation may explain observed phenomena in the propagation of light bubbles seen in a large number of UFO videos, especially notable in the TR#3 video's where three bubbles of light combine with a central core and then the whole becomes one giant blinding light bubble before flashing off at some fantastic speed.
Teledyne Ryan 3B

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCLtUljS14w

http://www.resonantfractals.org/FractalMatrix/LightTech.html

http://www.resonantfractals.org/Magnetism/SpinningCylinder.htm

A motional magnetic field has been measured by David Lowrance to produce a reactional force up to 137 times it's static measured strength.

"This is an exciting observation because [torsion] has been identified to be one dimension of the [gravity torsion] field. It is the field emitting from the Aether which shows elastic qualities and therefore to be the one field that can be altered, streched or compressed, that may also affect the gravity field at right angles to it.

Ultraviolet or infrared radiation, invisible or black light, is evidently what Tesla was referring to as radiant light energy, because it travels in a straight line.

http://www.resonantfractals.org/FractalMatrix/LightTech.html

Materials determine the light they give off. We know this as spectrometry and in flame tests we can see the visible light given off by materials. Understanding that fact aids us in determining what materials are involved in UFO sightings.

Obvious examples can be found in the chemisty of fireworks. So the knowledge is ancient really. The obvious importance of bismuth may in fact be that it is capable of emittng IR light.

[RAMSET]

Bismuth and a magnet making heat.

Gambeir
I was wondering if I had missed something [quite sincerely}
a while Back 3-4 years or more ,some had asked Ken if there was
an effect or experiment to prove this theory or show some heretofore
undoable accomplishment that could only be attributed to His research.

He offered an excellent test ,one which all who read it completely agreed
should prove it.
He had done the test himself and was very excited [as were all the readers]
Bismuth and a strong magnet in a vessel would make heat from the magnetic
Vortex interacting with the Bismuth and its very appropriate properties.

Dozens tried it and Lab experiments [calorimetry ]
But found no heat whatsoever ??

It was found that his infrared camera was suspect ,it was a very expensive camera but reflective artifacts seemed to be an issue ?

Has he proven this somewhere empirically ?
would seem a field in motion would indeed manifest at some level a result
or ultimate proof ?



just trying to pay attention and catch up ?

Thx
Chet K
Ps
as always I will remove this post if requested.

[robur]

Gone by request

[Gambeir]

Another note on the Aluminum and graphite
Dielectric constant of graphite is 12-15

From the table for elements on this page:

Dielectric Constants of various materials

If get Aluminum plate. Preferably curved and cover it with a sandwich of graphite + bonding agent and Aluminum powder + bonding agent - Would that - in theory magnify the effect?


Only problem I see is that if any glue is solvent-based. And solvent like white spirit is highly flammable. So, using high voltages on the item might cause an explosion of the glue layer unless all solvent evaporates during drying process

Three ways to magnify effects, velocity, counter rotation, and layering. Electrical magnification is part of the velocity equation and cannot be realized to it's potential without understanding Wheelerism. Same thing with electron spin states, they really can only be explained by understanding the dielectric fields motionary movements, which harkens back to Carl Fredrick Krafft and Walter Russell.

I have a theory about how Ken Wheeler got this all figured out and where in everything is explained very simply:
Reincarnation.

Walter Russell is Ken Wheeler.
Ken Wheeler is Walter Russell.
Mystery Solved.

Does this look familiar? I rest my case.

[Gambeir]

Another note on the Aluminum and graphite
Dielectric constant of graphite is 12-15

From the table for elements on this page:

Dielectric Constants of various materials

If get Aluminum plate. Preferably curved and cover it with a sandwich of graphite + bonding agent and Aluminum powder + bonding agent - Would that - in theory magnify the effect?

Bonding agent - glue

This one:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Copydex-Glue-Adhesive-Solvent-Free-Rubber-Bond-Crafts-DIY-Hobbies-Repairs/153378133222?hash=item23b60c94e6&var&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&enc=AQAEAAADAKvsXIZtBqdkfsZsMtzFbFsbX3WcW5fmB%2Fx7ZbaZTyexdyNBW%2BN4s7R

Or this one:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EVO-STIK-High-Strength-IMPACT-SPRAY-CONTACT-ADHESIVE-Multi-Purpose-Glue-500ML/322741655702?epid=1907768488&hash=item4b24e6d896

Only problem I see is that if any glue is solvent-based. And solvent like white spirit is highly flammable. So, using high voltages on the item might cause an explosion of the glue layer unless all solvent evaporates during drying process

Ebay links are no good, but doesn't matter, I could not say if creating a sandwhich is going to be more successful. Like you it is something I also think is likely to bring enhanced results but I don't know. This would take some study to determine. I'm not an expert in electron spin states. Instead I would use rational logic as best you can and experiment. It may just come down to experimenting.


Trying to understand how to do that using electron spin states is maybe a kind of crazy atomistic way to approach the problem, but if you understand enough about the known spin states and can put it all together it will give you the same results I am pretty sure, just that it's really, really, complex.

Gravity is an inductive process brought about through the behavior of centripetal movement of dielectric energies passing through all matter.


Refactoy cement is probably the answer. Used in kilns, forges, and so forth. Probably not the stuff at Lowe's or Home Despot.

I know you're right Robur, but I haven't gotten to the point where that's something I need to know more about. I do know that heat seems to be the main problem. Do some rooting around I guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLoedeB9GU8

Just for reference, note that pyrolitic graphite is different from ordinary graphite. You probably already are aware of that. However, from what I have read people have reported that ordinary graphite sheet is almost as good and way cheaper. There is a distinct difference and you need to bear that in mind. For cheap thrill's experimentally I would of course use ordinary lead graphite.

Aluminum, copper, and bismuth resist the magnetic field. However, understand this! That is a bit of a lie as well. Again it's Wheeler who demonstrates that bismuth is actually attracted to the inbound dielectric vortex.

VIDEO 74 Uncovering the Missing Secrets of Magnetism. DIAMAGNETISM IS NOT ANTI-'MAGNET'
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5GzddC16TU[/VIDEO]

Since these materials share a commonality we might assume they behave similarly. The official statement on graphite is maybe a little stupid claiming that it's both diamagnetic and yet has a magnetic field inside.

Hmm...I think they never heard of the book; "Uncovering the Missing Secrets of Magnetism."

[robur]

Gone by request

[robur]

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[robur]

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[Gambeir]

I strongly recommend reading William Lyne's book; "Occult Ether Physics."

https://archive.org/details/LyneOccultEtherPhysics_201609

Of specific interest refer to page 50: This will help you gain a new appreciation for independent thought I do believe.

Remember that Lyne wrote this a while back, and like Steven's their descriptions are imaginations of how the ether works. We now have the full picture thanks to Wheeler and https://www.ferrocell.us/

Our next stop, the twilight zone where we will consider the antic's of the pissed off beach ball peoples of the breakaway civilization.

[Gambeir]

I don't think it's actually possible to understand the Alexey without understanding the true nature of the magnetic field.

Here's some of my own additional thoughts on the Alexey. Really though these are just my thoughts and everything needs to be crunched down. By no means do I say this is correct.

The Alexeys' rotating magnets I assume must create a rotational dielectric accretion disk via their own dielectric interial planes, which we know as the bloch wall, and which assists in the creation of a quasi-false mass due to the increased input of the dielectric field in to the aluminum plate. This means that the aluminum plate must now weigh more than it previously did since it is the induction of energies from surrounding space that produce weight, unless of course it's developing it's own quote gravitational field which is essentially what creates the illusion of weight. So exactly what's taking place there is unknown.

Because the rotating plate holding the magnets is below the aluminum plate, there is a vectoring of the center of mass, or point source, and which I think is slightly upwards and in a circular or ring like arrangement that is defined by the rotational diameter of the magnets.

PS: I forgot to add on that those sonic emitters we all speculated on? Well now you have the answer right? This all goes back, way back to the Vril designs, the Schumann levitator, the Marconi ball, and of course Tesla. I hope this helps. I think this description is fairly accurate and can be worked with for experimental purposes.

[Gambeir]

"My friends it's time to simplify. We know that Einstein was an idiot, that neither space, nor time, are fields or forces, and that they are nothing and can act on nothing."
Ken Wheeler.

How do you get a metal ball to levitate and fly around? The same way earth flys around in space. Schumann realized that a sphere inside a sphere can create tension. That's the Schumann Frequency. The Alexey creates an expanded magnetic sphere, while the aluminum plate becomes the dielectric center of vortex, in between which is the incoming dielectric counterspatial field.