An Inquiry in to the Alien Reproduction Vehicle

[Gambeir]

There are a myraid of ways to create a flying machine but all of them involve air. All our flying machines involve controlling and working with air and air pressure.

Gravity control can be effected two ways, both defined already by Ken Wheeler. Refer to the previously posted video's for an introduction.

Gravity has itself also been defined accurately by Ken Wheeler. End of discussion, we know what creates gravity thanks to Ken and we know that it is a product of energetic induction. Gravity is incoherent magnetism plain and simple. It isn't a mystery. It's defined by a process that involves the induction of a dielectric energetic field which permeate's through all matter at a hyper-velocity speed.

We are only now beginning the first steps to begin using that knowledge to try to create practical machines. Of the two forms of gravitational types, one is repulsine and the other is a false mass drive. Any design which hopes to work must be one or the other or a combination.

http://www.energeticforum.com/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=320046

Any machine which hopes to work must also work off the discoveries of Ken Wheeler understanding of the magnetic field, and such that as a machine it is either repelling an electromagnetic field, such as I've already described as a pulsed wave repulsine type EM hover craft, or must create a false mass and re-orientation of that mass such as to counter the Earth's own incoherent magnetic field. I think that only a false mass drive will be interstellar capable.

This is not open to debate. Any debate about those conclusions are not welcome here and will be considered imbecilic.

There is no need to pretend we do not know how this works or to resort to lunatic ideas. Whether a person agrees with these conclusions is their own business but this thread will continue to be driven by logic and not lunacy. Confine posts to logical good sense which may further a practical means to construct one or the other, but not idiot machines which are clearly capable of doing nothing, especially when we have a firm idea about what is required. If you cannot understand this then you need to study Wheeler's work until you do. One cannot say; Oh yes, well I reject the theory of how airplanes fly any more than one can reject Wheeler's physics of the magnetic field. That is idiocy which I cannot stomach.

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[Gambeir]

OK Back to work then

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I think this relevant to the discussion. If it isn't - correct me then

Christ is there a moderator on this fricking forum because I got an MI-6 stooge out of the UK pretending to be an alien abductee wrecking mine.

Go start your own alien technology thread. Christ almighty you thread stealing scumbag. You got some nerve pal. Wish I could ban you.
No you can't just come barging in to someone else's thread and then start dictating what physics you're going to accept, get the hell off my
thread dirt bag, I'm using Ken Wheeler's work and his physics, you can just go screw yourself. I don't give a hoot in hell what you think about anything.
You're nobody and for you to come here and start telling me you're not going to accept let alone use Wheelers' ideas when that's what forms the foundation
of this thread and the work I've put in to it then you can just go to hell. Come here and treat me and my work like it's all sh--t and doesn't mean anything.
Hey Robur wonder why nobody wants you around and then you want to pretend you're a good guy huh?


You really need to get off my thread because you're really pissing me off.
The nerve of you coming to my thread and then trying to hijack it with your alien contactee lies.
As far as I'm concerned you're here to be malicious and cause harm. Just a complete load of horse manure is what you're selling. I told you before and I'm telling you once more
get off my thread. Stop trying to associate me with crackpot ideas you have and senseless drawing designed to lead people off into failure. I've really had quite a belly full of you.

[spacecase0]

defiantly relevant.
thank you for the post.

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[Gambeir]

Eugenics comes with another program called epigenetics.

It's interesting that the Nazi Doctors perfected mind control through trauma in the death camps where the Nazi Doctors boasted they could break a man in an hour and a half. Along with the trauma comes mind control, obviously, but that's not all. Trauma based mind control created a new potential which one might reasonable expect to be another Nazi Doctor experiment, and that was the potential to link trauma to bloodlines in families and to use it through generations to see if by inducing trauma the genes would react to the trauma and could therefore be molded. This is what abductions are all about; using generational timelines to forge a compliant slave class. This is of course a direct offshoot from standard hybridization, and so there are now those which have suffered so-called Alien Abductions by generations, or what is referred to as by blood lines. That is, if your parents, either one, was abducted then you're virtually assured of also being abducted. You think this is an Alien Program? Think again because it's not.

Ancestory wants your DNA so that no matter where you are they can locate you, your kids, or your kids kids, and the whole idea behind this is be able to keep track of those whom will form the backbone of the slave subspecies which is being forged right now; to create terror, pain, and misery, not once or twice mind you, but through generation after generation, an with the purpose of creating a slave sub-species of human beings, and who will be compliant on command as fainting goats are compliant. That's what real mind control is about and it's called epigenetics. Why don't you look up an old TV show called Queen for a Day and see how that strikes you.

This thread is about our salvation and I am violently opposed to those who knowingly or not derail the purpose because I am risking my life doing what I am doing and if you cannot understand in your blind egocentic view then do not expect me to be gracious to you. Ken Wheeler has put his life on the line knowingly or not and you are evidently too mind controlled to see what he has given or tried to give to the rest of humanity. In fact the idea that you're rejecting the straight forward logic is more telling than any other thing and virtually proves to me that you're a suffer of trauma based mind control. You seriously need to seek out a professional and get an opinion on this. Little time remains, very little time.

UFO's and Antigravity isn't about aliens. It has never been about aliens. Antigravity is not that complex. It's only been made to seem complex by the next level of mind control coming from the criminal education system. Every person that insists there are aliens helps the cause of the Nazi's running this program. You've been told over, and over, and over, and over, but still you and so many others are so thick skulled, gullible, and silly, and you won't listen to the proofs. Never mind the absolute proof of RFK assassination, or the UFO smoke ring on Dealy Plaza when JFK was murdered. Honestly you people...why anyone tries to help you when you act this way, so gullible, so narrow mind, so stubborn.

There was the movie Manchurian candidate in 1962 and then again in 2004. There was Robert Ludlums' Jason Bourne Books and then the movie series, which even more precisely described how this is accomplished and creating a CIA Assassin suffering from what? Oh yes, dissociative amnesia, which is typically a part of the programming. But hey, that's all just fiction right? You've probably never killed anyone and you'd remember if you had, right? You had sex bomb Timothy Oliphant depict what? Oh yes a kid who was abducted and lived with some kind of cult or priests and was programmed/trained to be an assassin. Christ almighty wake the hell up. Those are movies telling you and showing you the process. So my question is are you bright enough to put the puzzle together and if you're not then you deserve to become a slave, a sheep, a victim. That's why you are told. Make your choice. My problem is I'm stuck with you idiots otherwise I'd leave you all to become the subhumans you evidently desire to be. There is no other way to make this all any more clearer than that except to add that if you think the book the Golden Compass is just a fictional story about child abductions told in an interesting format then you're simply not paying enough attention to the real world around you.

What we have is a cult composed of a united collection of international intelligence agencies which is Nazi and which is global. They are all involved, all of them, every last one of them. They are the ones stealing children, murdering people, doing all these horrible things. They are the ones and you know who they are. They are the ones using advanced technology, of which one small but important part has has been mistaken as Alien UFO's, known to be among the most secret of secret state secrets, but this is soon to go un-noticed since the aware have noticed, that is they have been shown in several prominent videos that these so-called alien UFO's are now invisible, and so I imagine that we will be seeing fewer and fewer UFO's, and the fewer we see the crazier you're going to sound, so remember that if you can because I'm not sure you can remember as much as you think you can.

So along with these UFO's has come the Nazi perfected trauma based mind control for a sweeping agenda; one, to conduct a process to model a genetic slave who will be born with preconceived reactions to trauma, which does mean almost anything like clapping your hands for example: Not unlike the trauma that fainting goats suffer when you clap your hands which causes them to collapse and freeze from frightening sounds. Second, the use of trauma based methods to create unwitting assassins to further terrorize the sheep, most of whom seem willing to become even more defenseless than they already are, and thirdly to use this same system of trauma based mind control both in and outside of law enforcement to create an absolute murderous unfeeling and ruthless system of authority which of course cannot be challenged in any form. Look to the drastic change in police behavior. How or who is selecting law men? Look how they are acting and reacting. Are these the actions of rational people? Shooting a child because the kid has a pellet gun? Sorry that's the behavior of a programmed killer plain and simple. Face facts and stop living a delusional lie is my advice. Why do you think they get them outside the USA for training? Are your rights protected in say Israel? Wake up sleeping beauty, the party is about to get real hot, and you are all going to be invited whether you like it or not.

Believe what you like Robur but I advise you to seek out testing.
If what you are telling me is true than you've been abducted and probably tortured.

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[Gambeir]

I do not need fantasy to explain technology. There are no aliens. Delusions are not evidence of reality. Alien contact has no basis in reality. Mind controlled fractured multiple personalities are factual known proven truths. There are no aliens. No artifacts exist that cannot be rationally explained as technology. There are no aliens. Witches do not exist and Aliens do not exist. Mind control exists and Marxist Communists trying to enslave humanity exist. You are either a victim or an enemy. There can be no other possibility.

Post something useful or go away: There are no aliens and I will not entertain any discussion which assumes there are. Any claims of alien technological knowledge proves only that a person is either a mind control victim, a naive fool, or a military nazi corporate intel coinintel spook who is a traitor and enemy of every living being on this planet who should be ruthlessly hunted down and executed on sight.

[robur]

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[Gambeir]

You keep stating that all stuff is real and that it isn't alien. That none of it is alien.

I have told you about my experience in good faith and I cannot agree that alien aspect is 100% not present. I cannot and will not agree with it ever.

But I do not with to argue about it.

Version of science and events I have channeled do not match what Ken Wheeler says. I wish to make it clear 1 last time why I do not listen to Ken Wheeler.

''Their'' version of Gravity science matches Ken's by only 20%
I listen to everyone equally, but reserve the right to follow what I have seen myself. If you have seen yourself what I have see you might also would want to follow their path.

I wish to write on this forum and report on things I do. Without arguing or slandering. I have gotten "toxic" as you put it once. That will never happen again. But I wish with all due respect to make it clear why I cannot follow Ken Wheeler or those 2 other people mentioned.

Thank you For reading.
I do sincerely hope I wouldn't have to return to this again.

Yes, but have also now already forgotten what I told you was also in good faith?
I am not required to believe that what you told me is real, only that you believe it was real, just so the same may be said for my own experiences.
No one is required to believe that what I say is true. I know it's true and I know those vehicles are no more alien than the Jeep in the damn driveway.
I've covered just about every possibility outside of witchcraft and there is only one explanation, a rational sensible one, and one which is explained by
ether physics, the same physics the Nazi's never abandoned. So what's more real? That aliens gave us this relatively simple straight forward knowledge?
Or that this information was put under national security and then hijacked by the Nazi elites? My money is on the last choice.

Everything you have said to me tells me you are a victim.
I recommend you read these links and think about them.

https://cassiopaea.org/2012/01/30/the-cs-hit-list-05-dr-greenbaum-and-the-manchurian-candidates/

https://cassiopaea.org/2010/09/17/the-greenbaum-speech/

https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/how-to-avoid-being-mind-controlled-at-a-conference-and-freedom-from-mind-control/

Mind control is ancient knowledge that's been kept secret and obscure and was only accidentally discovered. The Nazi's perfected this and could break a person in 1 &1/2 hours according to captured documents from the Nazi doctors, and we also now know that the foundations for mind control can be found in the ancient Egyptian book of the dead, and from that it's pretty easy to see the whole of human history has been written on bodies of people who have been made slaves through this technique. Where do you think these crazy kids with guns are coming from? These are classic mind controlled killers. There is no way this is accidental. No way people are going wacko on their own. Never happened before on this scale in this country. We know this, it's a fact, it isn't some movie script fantasy. It's a plot and UFO's belonging to Aliens are part of this plot, along with terrorism, mind controlled suicides, and gunmen.

There are no aliens and that's the real painful truth. That's why they want a space force, because the elites need slaves, they want to keep you from ever knowing that truth, and hence from escaping. They want to keep you and your kids from ever having a flying platform, saucer, or space ship. From ever having any knowledge outside of planet earth. If there are aliens you're never ever going to know until you stop believing this bull**** about UFO's belonging to aliens. Wernher von braun said there were no aliens. He said it was another giant Nazi lie. There is no higher authority or anyone else who would know that. Aliens are another giant Nazi lie. Get that through your head and think about the idea that someone may have messed with you at some time in your life because that's a hell of a lot more plausible than having received information from elsewhere.

There are only two ways to produce anti-gravity, both described by Ken Wheeler, and supported by independent researchers. I'm sure there are other ways to accomplish how to produce these same two effects, but we are only now grasping the basics, and still you continue to claim that these are also not right.

I believe I've demonstrated a history which shows clearly there is a reasoned history to flying saucers and which requires no aliens to achieve, and I've also given a theory of operations for two kinds of vehicles. Christ sakes doesn't that count for anything with you? Maybe you should realize you may be in need of serious professional help?

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