ReGenX Coils and ReGenXtra switching

[BroMikey]

See Bye you are all math same thing as all mouth. Turion don't let math control his decisions on what the project build for experimentation is going to be. Dave's experiments are just that, try it. The rest of the people never try. So Dave sees a need and out of necessity begins to explore. When his Dad was still around he helped solve some problems associated with small or weak energy systems like solar / battery banks.

People told Dave with a laugh that he was a blind fool who doesn't have the electrical smarts to understand that he was wasting his time. It was Turion's time to waste and with that has succeeded as always with discovery. Now you want to joke and name call then demand he put out all his cards? Good luck with that.

[bistander]

Post #406 continued.
Motor voltage = 11.98V, motor current = 10 A, motor power = 119.8W and energy into the motor for 20 seconds = 2396J.
Each wire has a resistance of 0.001 ohm, each wire has a voltage drop of 0.01V. Total wire loss is 0.2W, as heat. For 20 seconds, loss in the wires convert 4J of electric energy into heat.
For the 20 second period, the motor converts 2396J of electric energy from the battery into mechanical energy (which accelerates and moves air) and into heat (due to inefficiency of the motor).
The motor has 10A flowing into one terminal and 10A flowing out of its other terminal. The battery has 10A flowing out of its positive terminal and 10A flowing into its negative terminal.
Explain in simple terms, in this example, how current can be reused for additional energy without:
1.) Adding more potential (like adding another battery).
or
2.) Lowering the voltage drop across the motor (which will slow the motor which in turn reduces the motor power and energy and speed and volume of air).

Sorry about the interrupted post.

bi

[bistander]

Gee bi, I didn’t realize you could have current WITHOUT voltage. If that is possible, please explain to all of us how to do it. I would really like to know. In my example above I never said there was no voltage. That was YOUR usual attempt to TRY and twist my words. You always focus on some tiny piece of what I say to try to discredit the whole thing. It’s an old game and getting more worn out all the time.

So when I spoke of current, voltage was assumed to also flow. So your “big reveal” in no way contradicts or invalidates what I said.

And by the way, that is no theory. It is a FACT. One you should add to the list of many things you do not understand about how these systems work.

How much do they pay you to continue to hide who you really are and constantly attack from the shadows? Is it worth it? Can you sleep at night? At the end of your days will you look back with pride on what you have done? Do you have a written agenda you follow, or do they allow you the freedom to wing it? What is it like to wake up every morning knowing you are a puppet and those in power are pulling your strings? But you do your best, Binocchio. We have no choice but to put up with your constant nonsense because this is an open forum. But it must really grate on you to know that the work on this stuff is RAPIDLY moving forward despite your best efforts. You must feel like an ant trying to stop a steamroller. As my wife says, every time I have to change the turn signal indicator bulb on her car, which takes special tools and the ability to twist your arm into a pretzel... “Sucks to be you.” The first time she said that to me I told her the honeymoon was over, and we call the auto parts store where we were on that day “Sucks To Be You Auto Parts.” Just a little personal trivia for ya.

OK. So you realize that it takes both current and potential difference to have power, which is necessary to convert electrical energy to mechanical energy (the function of a motor), or to any form of energy. BTW, you can have current without voltage, but let's leave that alone for now.

Please show me how your theory works on this example.
A 12 volt battery is connected to a motor with 2 wires, one from the positive battery terminal to a motor terminal and the other wire from battery negative to the other motor terminal. A simple circuit. Two components, a source (battery) and a load (motor). The motor has a fan attached to its shaft which presents a mechanical load to the motor. Say it spins at 2000 RPM and draws 10 amperes from the battery.
Analysis: Battery voltage = 12V, battery current = 10A. Battery power = 120W. If the circuit runs for 20 seconds, then 2400J of energy are removed from the battery.

[Turion]

Gee bi, I didn’t realize you could have current WITHOUT voltage. If that is possible, please explain to all of us how to do it. I would really like to know. In my example above I never said there was no voltage. That was YOUR usual attempt to TRY and twist my words. You always focus on some tiny piece of what I say to try to discredit the whole thing. It’s an old game and getting more worn out all the time.

So when I spoke of current, voltage was assumed to also flow. So your “big reveal” in no way contradicts or invalidates what I said.

And by the way, that is no theory. It is a FACT. One you should add to the list of many things you do not understand about how these systems work.

How much do they pay you to continue to hide who you really are and constantly attack from the shadows? Is it worth it? Can you sleep at night? At the end of your days will you look back with pride on what you have done? Do you have a written agenda you follow, or do they allow you the freedom to wing it? What is it like to wake up every morning knowing you are a puppet and those in power are pulling your strings? But you do your best, Binocchio. We have no choice but to put up with your constant nonsense because this is an open forum. But it must really grate on you to know that the work on this stuff is RAPIDLY moving forward despite your best efforts. You must feel like an ant trying to stop a steamroller. As my wife says, every time I have to change the turn signal indicator bulb on her car, which takes special tools and the ability to twist your arm into a pretzel... “Sucks to be you.” The first time she said that to me I told her the honeymoon was over, and we call the auto parts store where we were on that day “Sucks To Be You Auto Parts.” Just a little personal trivia for ya.

[BroMikey]

That is not what Dave is talking about.

"electricity that goes into or through a motor is either somehow CONSUMED by the motor"

He is talking getting away from closed loop systems which are connection pathways that allow collection of energy after it leaves the motor. But only if you have those provisions. See splitting the positive for a beginners guide using DC energy. AC can also be recycled. Adding in V X amps is a clown joke of an answer to his statement. This shows total ignorance to the subject matter. Same ole hat, different day.

[bistander]

The same basic mistake is made over and over, and no one pays any attention to the one true secret to free energy. Here is what the textbooks currently say:
To calculate an electric motor's efficiency, you must measure its mechanical output power and divide it by the electrical input power. It's not quite THAT simple, but that's the basic idea in the textbooks.

This makes the MISTAKEN assumption that the electricity that goes into or through a motor is either somehow CONSUMED by the motor or CONVERTED by the motor into mechanical energy according to some formula by which you can determine how efficient the motor is. Neither is true. It assumes you dump electrical energy in, never to be seen again, and out the other end comes mechanical energy. Garbage. When you begin to understand that, you are on the path to unlimited energy.

An electric motor runs because current flows. It is that simple. What YOU chose to do with the current AFTER it has gone through the motor determines whether or not you get what so many people are searching for. I have been saying this same thing for years, but no one listens. There are a few who understand what I am talking about, but not many.

Some day you will ALL see and understand. Or not. Who knows.

Hello Turion,

This is only half of the story. An electric motor runs because current flows through it AND there is an electric potential across it. You need both, current and voltage. Without BOTH, current AND voltage, there is no power developed therefore no energy converted.

This basic fact shoots down your theory.

Regards,

bi

[BroMikey]

That will work. If that is supposed to be a 12 strand coil, (four in each group) that's EXACTLY how I have all the coils on my generator connected.

Thanks man, I'll tell him what you said. In the dark picture it says on it each of the 4 sets really equals 16 windings. So 16 series strands of 3 sets in parallel using up 48 strands in all. We are working with slow speeds so we are hoping to run a few extra strands and dial down the R's. Have a good one. PS BYE is getting obliterated.

[Turion]

That will work. If that is supposed to be a 12 strand coil, (four in each group) that's EXACTLY how I have all the coils on my generator connected.

[BroMikey]

Hey Turion
Jordan wants to know if this is how he should do his next test. He worked hard on this today in school. Will this conflict is my question?

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[Turion]

The same basic mistake is made over and over, and no one pays any attention to the one true secret to free energy. Here is what the textbooks currently say:
To calculate an electric motor's efficiency, you must measure its mechanical output power and divide it by the electrical input power. It's not quite THAT simple, but that's the basic idea in the textbooks.

This makes the MISTAKEN assumption that the electricity that goes into or through a motor is either somehow CONSUMED by the motor or CONVERTED by the motor into mechanical energy according to some formula by which you can determine how efficient the motor is. Neither is true. It assumes you dump electrical energy in, never to be seen again, and out the other end comes mechanical energy. Garbage. When you begin to understand that, you are on the path to unlimited energy.

An electric motor runs because current flows. It is that simple. What YOU chose to do with the current AFTER it has gone through the motor determines whether or not you get what so many people are searching for. I have been saying this same thing for years, but no one listens. There are a few who understand what I am talking about, but not many.

Some day you will ALL see and understand. Or not. Who knows.

[BroMikey]

More fantasy of isolated fiction because they are embarrassed as they should be. Never over 99% since the 1875 and you think this one example shows that the world runs at 90%? Try 65-70%. What a slap in the face joke of a so called scientific clown show.

Keep spinning you'll have yourself convinced in no time at all. Then come back to the real world and spin some more?

[bistander]

...
Anyone going over 99% efficiency figures immediately will lose their job and pegged a lunatic, ...

"Tests carried out on a 44 megawatt 6-pole synchronous ABB motor shortly before delivery showed an efficiency 0.25 percent greater than the 98.8 percent stipulated in the contract, resulting in the world record for electric motor efficiency."

Let me help you with the math. 98.8% + 0.25% = 99.05% efficient. Higher than your 99% limit. I doubt anyone lost a job or was pegged a lunatic. In fact, ABB seem to be bragging about it, here:

https://new.abb.com/news/detail/1789/ABB-motor-sets-world-record-in-energy-efficiency-saves-half-a-million-dollars

Just another example of you not knowing what you're talking about.

bi

[bistander]

Those are fairy tail applications, common motors, hundreds of millions of them for over 100 year run 70% of bulk power in our land. Reality is what you reject. No one can exceed the 90's figures and have been achieved from the beginning with large motors. You are grasping at straws as per usual. A dishonest per will never admit their mistakes they only justify them.

Every refrigerator on the planet, every washer, every dryer, all of it runs in every house for 100 years is approx 70% efficient. Discussing. You can't tell a dope he is not a smart person he isn't able to see it.Pathetically true.

Anyone going over 99% efficiency figures immediately will lose their job and pegged a lunatic, just like the same deal with cancer cures, they mysteriously end up fired or removed from the roles one way or another. Insulting to think these controller actual believe that makes the truth go away.

The real tech is out there and suppression does not work anymore the people are not buying the lies. I have to hold your hand to find the truth and right at the last minute you look away from it. Old news.

Our generators go way over 100% efficiency when converting. This equal and complimentary reaction does cook the scientific goose so to speak. Babbling yuppies don't face facts, only parrot them so everybody same same.Money and science don't mix.

You are not the only one ByeSlander.Good luck with that. Care to try another spin?

Here again, no answer to my question. No references. No citations. No facts. Just your usual B.S.

Electric motor efficiency. Take a read. Notice the the efficiency numbers in the tables. This is reality and fact concerning the workhorses of modern industry.

https://www.cee1.org/content/motor-legislative-history

bi

[BroMikey]

Those are fairy tail applications, common motors, hundreds of millions of them for over 100 year run 70% of bulk power in our land. Reality is what you reject. No one can exceed the 90's figures and have been achieved from the beginning with large motors. You are grasping at straws as per usual. A dishonest per will never admit their mistakes they only justify them.

Every refrigerator on the planet, every washer, every dryer, all of it runs in every house for 100 years is approx 70% efficient. Discussing. You can't tell a dope he is not a smart person he isn't able to see it.Pathetically true.

Anyone going over 99% efficiency figures immediately will lose their job and pegged a lunatic, just like the same deal with cancer cures, they mysteriously end up fired or removed from the roles one way or another. Insulting to think these controller actual believe that makes the truth go away.

The real tech is out there and suppression does not work anymore the people are not buying the lies. I have to hold your hand to find the truth and right at the last minute you look away from it. Old news.

Our generators go way over 100% efficiency when converting. This equal and complimentary reaction does cook the scientific goose so to speak. Babbling yuppies don't face facts, only parrot them so everybody same same.Money and science don't mix.

You are not the only one ByeSlander.Good luck with that. Care to try another spin?

[bistander]

Motors are as engineering data posted. 70-85% conversion efficiency read the stats and weep. ...

You are incapable of answering a question. Provide the source of "engineering data". Otherwise your words are make-believe garbage which you throw out to mislead readers.

... Care to try again?

"As Electrek reports, both the Model S and X use AC induction electric motors, which achieve an efficiency of 93 percent. However, for the more recently developed Model 3, Tesla switched to using permanent magnet reluctance motors, which achieve an efficiency of 97 percent. Higher efficiency means more range from the same batteries."

Above quote from:

https://www-pcmag-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.pcmag.com/news/report-tesla-model-sx-upgrading-to-more-efficient-electric-motors?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&amp=true&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=15886834670843&amp_ct=1588683499528&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pcmag.com%2Fnews%2Freport-tesla-model-sx-upgrading-to-more-efficient-electric-motors

Notice that I have supplied the reference source for the electric motor efficiency figures. Please do likewise when you post numbers.

bi