Thanks to K. Wheeler...
Hello to All,
Thanks to Ken Wheeler...
I have been able to build a REPULSION FIELD GENERATOR...something that Academia Science will never understand it could be possible.
I have been able to deduct and build, from this new model of magnetism...that a very strong induction could be possible by making that "change" of the Magnetic Field...without moving absolutely any MASS COMPONENTS of a Generator.
The Iron Filings sprinkled over a Magnetic Field, LOCKS AND SHRINKS all the HIGH PRESSURE LAYERS (which bypass accretion disc) COMPRESSING Mid and Low layers, not allowing Us to see the MID LAYERS, which are based on Two Bubbles for each pole...
FERROCELLS and Magnetic Viewing Film Captures clearly those MID PRESSURE LAYERS, since they are not "physically" sprinkled DIRECTLY over the Field, but are SUSPENDED within a Colloidal Substance and CONTAINED between Glass lenses (Ferrocell) or within a Plastic Film...NOT DEALING WITH HP LAYERS.
I know Markoul does not agree with the existence of the High Pressure Layers...and so I did not before...but they do exist and are located at the outermost Space of the Field.
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Ufopolitics
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Originally posted by ricards View PostHi Ufo,
first I'd like to confirm If I'm visualizing the same magnetic field ken wheeler portrays in his book is the same as yours..
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as you can see here, in your model posted by melonhead, you have only portrayed the inner part of ken's graphic of the magnetic field.. and as I see it (and understood it) you missed the part of "magnetism Forms closed Loop upon themselves" meaning if the "Dielectric Inertial Plane" as ken termed it (or simply the bloch region) is large enough you would have 2 spheres separated by that bloch region and would have a magnetic field geometry other than that of the Iron filing method (no closed loop)..
the iron filing method only got skinny because the iron was attracted, but that doesn't mean that is the actual field of the magnet..
its more stretched outward.. it has appeared like that because magnetic flux can be "guided" and the original magnetic field is not as what the "Iron filing" method has been showing..
I have worked, experimented and played with magnets with varying strength and I should know how to visualize the field not the same as is exactly as the iron filings show, but that doesn't mean the experiment was BS.
If you and ken and other think that what we see from the Iron filing method magnetic field geometry is what we visualize it as it is portrayed by the filings, you're mistaken..
but.
what we think you are visualizing in the ferro+light+magnetism, and are trying to reinstate from our minds are a mistake
here is a page in ken's book..
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he states that light is being "displaced" by the magnetism.
but can the light actually be "displaced" or "Bent" by magnetism?..
I saw this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY7hsXxbb0Q .. and read the comments where the inventor clearly states the Fact of what is truly happening..
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If you guys are portraying the magnetic field in a "Bigger picture" including the light, then that is where the problem arises..
the bloch region indeed can be clearly depicted by that experiment but that's because the Ferro fluid is just attracted to both the north and south pole and causes a "Voidance"(got that term from ken
) of ferro fluid in the bloch region because of the attraction of magnetic north and south poles of the magnet in which ken also claims to be none existent (attraction)..
I have read his book before and I have read it again for the sake of this discussion to be sure I'm not misinterpreting anything. I do not agree with how he redefines "linear" into "radial" and "radial" into "spatial" and "counter spatial" there are some parts that I agree with (like gravity) and parts that I don't simply because I have other references that makes much more sense...
I have watched your videos and find it fascinating even though ken tries to Redefine "Magnetism" he still uses the "Lines of force" and unfortunately looks like he is contrary to your video.
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Hello Ricards,
Well, it seems you have missed one of my videos where I FULLY explain IT, in Millions of colors and 3D CAD Animations...ALL THREE PRESSURES LAYERS OF MAGNETISM...:
LOW, MID & HIGH...
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZhETcDHDRY[/VIDEO]
MAGNETISM CAN BEND AN ELECTRON BEAM (We call it "DEFLECTION")...it has been observed with sufficient EMPIRICAL DATA (I started to like that Greek Word...
) for the last two centuries with the development of the CRT...
What Ken is showing there as also on some videos he has on YT...that Light gets distorted, basically at the Center Plane...Bloch Wall, Counterspace, Dielectric Field Plane... or whatever you wanna call it.
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Ufopolitics
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Originally posted by bistander View PostYou say those colored lines are the magnetic field. I say they are not. You say you have empirical data (presumably supporting your conjecture). I say show me the empirical data. You show me the colored lines.
You clearly don't comprehend the meaning of empirical.
That was VERY FUNNY Bistander!!
You are telling a Greek Guy...that He don't know what "Empirical" means...Empirical evidence, also known as sensory experience, is the information received by means of the senses, particularly by observation and documentation of patterns and behavior through experimentation.[1] The term comes from the Greek word.
And they invented this word...
That was AWESOME!!!...Regards
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no photons can not be bend by magnetic fields.but can the light actually be "displaced" or "Bent" by magnetism?..
But the nanopaticles inside the ferrofluid can.
The follow the magnetic flux and reflect part of the light they receive therefore allowing them to "paint" the magnetic flux and make it visible to the human eye.
As for the attracted by both poles thing you said you are right and so are the iron filings however as I proved with empirical evidence iron filings because they very low magnetic reluctance, can not follow the flux inside the Bloch region and therefore fail to depict the flux there. superparamagnetic ferrofluid single domain nanoparticles are a different beast however and can follow perfectly even the lowest potential flux of magnetic field therefore can depict accurately a dipole magnetic field.
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EM
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Fails
Do you actually believe that crappy you tube video qualifies as empirical data? It does not for me.Originally posted by Markoul View Postwill this qualify for you that that a magnet turns the light projected through a ferrocell to align with its magnetic NS poles axis?
EM
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Hi Ufo,
first I'd like to confirm If I'm visualizing the same magnetic field ken wheeler portrays in his book is the same as yours..
as you can see here, in your model posted by melonhead, you have only portrayed the inner part of ken's graphic of the magnetic field.. and as I see it (and understood it) you missed the part of "magnetism Forms closed Loop upon themselves" meaning if the "Dielectric Inertial Plane" as ken termed it (or simply the bloch region) is large enough you would have 2 spheres separated by that bloch region and would have a magnetic field geometry other than that of the Iron filing method (no closed loop)..
the iron filing method only got skinny because the iron was attracted, but that doesn't mean that is the actual field of the magnet..
its more stretched outward.. it has appeared like that because magnetic flux can be "guided" and the original magnetic field is not as what the "Iron filing" method has been showing..
I have worked, experimented and played with magnets with varying strength and I should know how to visualize the field not the same as is exactly as the iron filings show, but that doesn't mean the experiment was BS.
If you and ken and other think that what we see from the Iron filing method magnetic field geometry is what we visualize it as it is portrayed by the filings, you're mistaken..
but.
what we think you are visualizing in the ferro+light+magnetism, and are trying to reinstate from our minds are a mistake
here is a page in ken's book..
he states that light is being "displaced" by the magnetism.
but can the light actually be "displaced" or "Bent" by magnetism?..
I saw this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY7hsXxbb0Q .. and read the comments where the inventor clearly states the Fact of what is truly happening..
If you guys are portraying the magnetic field in a "Bigger picture" including the light, then that is where the problem arises..
the bloch region indeed can be clearly depicted by that experiment but that's because the Ferro fluid is just attracted to both the north and south pole and causes a "Voidance"(got that term from ken
) of ferro fluid in the bloch region because of the attraction of magnetic north and south poles of the magnet in which ken also claims to be none existent (attraction)..
I have read his book before and I have read it again for the sake of this discussion to be sure I'm not misinterpreting anything. I do not agree with how he redefines "linear" into "radial" and "radial" into "spatial" and "counter spatial" there are some parts that I agree with (like gravity) and parts that I don't simply because I have other references that makes much more sense...
I have watched your videos and find it fascinating even though ken tries to Redefine "Magnetism" he still uses the "Lines of force" and unfortunately looks like he is contrary to your video.
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will this qualify for you that that a magnet turns the light projected through a ferrocell to align with its magnetic NS poles axis?
EM
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What?
You say those colored lines are the magnetic field. I say they are not. You say you have empirical data (presumably supporting your conjecture). I say show me the empirical data. You show me the colored lines.Originally posted by Markoul View PostHonestly,
After all these data and info you were presented by Ufopolitcs and others , including me, you saying that there are no empirical data!?
I find YOUR attitude quite insulting and irrational.
Here is your empirical data. Doesn't look like fantasy to me.
wrong flux pattern of the pole of a magnet:
correct flux pattern of the pole of a magnet:
The above last is the correct field flux on the pole of a magnet.
it is like a rolled-in slinky.
individual flux rings are closing circuit between each pole and and the Bloch region of the magnet at its middle.
Exactly as Ufopolitics presented it at his illustration here:
EM
You clearly don't comprehend the meaning of empirical.
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Honestly,
After all these data and info you were presented by Ufopolitcs and others , including me, you saying that there are no empirical data!?
I find YOUR attitude quite insulting and irrational.
Here is your empirical data. Doesn't look like fantasy to me.
wrong flux pattern of the pole of a magnet:
correct flux pattern of the pole of a magnet:
The above last is the correct field flux on the pole of a magnet.
Sorry guys I had to take the above two links down, this is publishing material.
it is like a rolled-in slinky.
individual flux rings are closing circuit between each pole and and the Bloch region of the magnet at its middle.
Exactly as Ufopolitics presented it at his illustration here:
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No proof
No empirical data afterall. Just false claims, fantasy magnetism and insults.Originally posted by Markoul View PostUfopolitics,
No point of wasting effort and time to convince everyone.
For whom who still believes that old grandpa iron filings shows the correct image geometry of the magnetic dipole...
have a nice day!
EM
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As soon as someone understands that ferrocell is totally transparent to the magnetic field of a magnet and shows therefore both poles fields flux simultaneously overlaped and interlaced everything becomes clear.
As I told before, in order to see the correct geometry of the field in a pole you need Brian Kerr's super sensitive ferrocell, hold a strong bar magnet (poles are physically more apart than say a ring magnet) and hold it a couple of cm away from the ferrocell so tha the field of the opposite pole don't gets induced in the ferrocell and only the field of one pole get's induced in the ferrocell. Also holding the pole of the magnet on an angle facing down the ferrocell and not vertically above the ferrocell, helps.
Then interlacing and overlapping effect of the two poles on the ferrocell goes away and you will experience the true field on one pole of a magnet.
As I showed before it is like a rolled-in slinky toroid shaped.Last edited by Markoul; 04-22-2018, 12:43 AM.
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Hello Ricards, my pleasure.Originally posted by ricards View PostHi UFO,
thanks for that detailed reply..
Ricards...above you are looking at electron-light deflections...when we are referring to FIELD-ELECTRON DEFLECTIONS.Originally posted by ricards View PostI'm sure I have stated that light was deflected by the stream of electrons being deflected.. the effect was the light because the cause was the stream of electrons being deflected.. maybe you got confused?.
Light is just "the Painting" of Electron Beam on the screen...so why dedicate so much time to light-electron relation?
Main issue here is that Magnetic Fields DEFLECT Electron Beams...that is WHY I spent half of my CRT PART 1 video going over history of how the CRT versus the development of TV, RADAR and ALL Visuals were developed based on Coils changing their Fields polarities...then reproducing IMAGES, SIGNALS on screen...just like Old CRT Scopes also did...comprende?
This was written on Ken's Book...Now I wonder...did you really read that book?...or you just got tired of his insults, hatred, etc...then shut it off or just went over "slightly" and not deeply enough...?Originally posted by ricards View Poston north and south opposite spins... maybe I should refer you to your thread where you state that spin rotation is the same..
Yes, I know exactly that "phenomena" very well...still, poles are opposite spins if looked facing at your eyes.
Same as when we get a small motor running and look at its front shaft (where it connects) then look at its back end...same position...it gives us the "illusion" the shaft movement are opposite rotations...but we know that SOLID SHAFT can't do that.
Negative, just refer to the Small Motor running example I cited above...and do not move the motor body, leave it seating on the table...You just approach your face to the front of motor, look at your watch ...then approach your face to its back end, look again at your watch...what is your conclusion now?Originally posted by ricards View Postyou rotated the magnet that is why the spin that you are visualizing was the opposite...
Thanks but No thanks!!!Originally posted by ricards View Postthis indicates that the gyroscopic action newman was potraying in his book (energy machine of joseph newman) was correct.. but unlike the model of ken, the vortex like in the poles are not present, but still the lines of force only have gyroscopic motion..
on the "Thing" and the "Theory".. I'm pretty sure you get what I mean.. (because you made fun of it).. if not I can explain further.
That is plain BS, Ricards!!Originally posted by ricards View PostI'm sorry UFO but a CRT scanline CANNOT perfectly Identify poles like you are claiming.. YOU are the one who identified it.
the Only way to know the Poles is to get a compass set to align to the Magnetic field of earth in which the baseline of "Poles" is set.
You approach a NORTH POLE to a CRT SCANLINE SCREEN and it HAPPENS TO TWIST in a COMPLETELY OPPOSITE WAY THAN A SOUTH POLE WOULD!!!
ANY MAGNET, ANY SHAPE FORM OR SIZE...WILL SHOW YOU THE SAME, EXACT POLARITY DIFFERENT DISTORTION.
Watch my Video below AGAIN...obviously you pay attention to what I have written and shown here same way as you said you have read Ken Wheeler's Book.
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7OzMURRU_k[/VIDEO]
I do not "hate iron filings"...I hate who has promoted the FALSE IDEA that we are all looking at Magnetic Fields when we see those MUDDY, RUSTED, RANDOMLY DISPERSED CHUNKS OF STEEL.Originally posted by ricards View Poston the lines of force that you guys are dismissing..
I will not refer you to a "Iron Filing" method (that you hated so much, even though it didn't do anything to you.) instead, I will refer you to a ferocell experiment.
They have fed Us all with those WRONG VIEWS OF MAGNETIC FIELDS FOR MORE THAN TWO CENTURIES.
And now, it is about time You ALL WAKE UP!!
They align like a "line" because you are ZOOMING at the ferrocell Nano Particles alignment.Originally posted by ricards View Posthttp://www.ferrocell.us/references/o...Ferrocell.ppsx
that is a file you can get here references
on page 5 of that slide show you will see this.. (I have cropped the image in case you cant access the website.)
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why do those ferrous compound aligning like a "Line"..
But if you get your eyes OFF THE ZOOM....then you will see PLAINLY CURVILINEAR SHAPES AROUND MAGNET...NOT STRAIGHT LINES.
I will ask you...Originally posted by ricards View Postwhat now is the difference of "Iron Filings" (which is micro) to ferrous compound (can be nano).. if they all just act like numerous tiny compasses?.
What is the difference between a HUGE PILE OF CONCRETE PLUS SAND MIX...PLUS A HUGE CONTAINER OF WATER...VERSUS A FINISHED CONCRETE BUILDING WITH A BEAUTIFUL ARCHITECTURAL STRUCTURE?
A Ferrocell contain nano particles of ferromagnetic metals...BUT, THEY ARE SEPARATED IN A VISCOUS - TRANSPARENT-LIQUID ON WHAT IS CALLED A COLLOIDAL SUSPENSION STATE (Search Colloidal, learn it) which happens to ALLOW LIGHT TO GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE SPACE BETWEEN THEM...FORMING A UNIFORM LIGHT SPECTRUM
Same way Magnetic Viewing Film does but Ferrocells are like HD (HIGHER DEFINITION) MEANS TO VIEW FIELDS.
Let me ask you Ricards...Could you get a Couple of Bottles of Glass...cut with diamond blades the rear (bottom) of each ones...frame them with wire and add some legs to it...would they serve to be used as PRESCRIBED READING GLASSES?Originally posted by ricards View Postand forgive me for judging you guys for your ferro+magnet+light experiment.. I apologize.
I will just ask, when you visualize the magnetic field on those experiment.. do you visualized the "Light" or the "Darkened" area?.. as the magnetic field?.
Or simply...could you try to see trough their rough bottom glass just like you could see with a perfectly made, non distorted piece of glass?
Do you believe is the same result to "RANDOMLY SPRINKLE" Iron Filings around a Field...just like we "sprinkle grains" feeding pigeons or chickens...randomly...or to have a FERROCELL to view Fields?
Finally...we do not look at either dark or light areas...we look at the BIG PICTURE, THE FIELD SPECTRUM Created by the Light going through the EVENLY DISPERSED ALIGNMENT OF THOSE NANO PARTICLES...which happens that LENS can be POSITIONED AT DIFFERENT DISTANCES in order to AVOID Field DIRECT and STRONGER INFLUENCE...going spherically, 3D around Field.
I could use a simple comparison...PIXELS...HIGHER DEF versus LOW DEFINITION, what is it all about?
HD just have smaller sized divisions on screen (DOTS) which gives Us a much higher definition of IMAGES we see.
Now...if we all would get the SAME "IMAGE" whether using Iron Filings or Ferrocells...then why to argue about it right?
But it happens that NOPE, THEY BOTH DO NOT SHOW SAME IMAGES OF THE MAGNETIC FIELD.
Plus...it Happens that NOT ONLY FERROCELLS...But also COLOR CRT's PLUS MAGNETIC VIEW FILM SHOWS EXACTLY SAME FIELD SPECTRUM...What a "COINCIDENCE" UH?
Now, tell me what else could we get, what other technology...to see magnetic fields which portraits same shape as Iron Filings do?
Above I have cited THREE METHODS...All different...but same results.
Please watch video below...it would help visualize all I have written above.
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v5YsV_M5hc&t=947s[/VIDEO]
Take care
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Hello Fessor,Originally posted by Fessor View PostHi Ufo,
I am baffled to see whats happen at 0:36, as the magnets are placed vertically, and he twist the magnets around, the field shown in the ferrocell do not follow the physical twist. This to me, shows that the magnet is creating a field, thats somehow is not bound to the physical material.
I know what you mean...good observation!!
Ferrocell has the capability to show this (let's call it) "time delay" between physical magnet movements versus the "virtual massless, weightless field" movements...
Ferrocell displays the SPATIAL magnetic field in a kind of 3D Holographic Image, even though it is just a flat, 2D Lens...but STILL it is a holographic image of a non physical body...
You could notice this effect of delay, of retardation... also when he does a repulsion or attraction further on.
On a Repulsion, Ferrocell shows from a Sphere to an Ellipsoidal 3D geometry between two Norths or two Souths...depending on the distance between poles the "sphere" would be compressed into an ellipsoidal shape.
Horizontally compared to what?...Horizontal or Vertical descriptions depends of a comparative plane and or a line at least...so I am guessing you are talking about Magnet-Pole Axis versus ferrocell screen Plane...correct?Originally posted by Fessor View PostWhile if you put the magnet horizontally, the field follows the physical rotation. What can we make out of such observation ?? Such a clear 90 degree difference in behavior. (Yes, a magnet do have an orientation in 3D, but why differ in this aspect ?)
If it is so, then when he sets the chain of magnets (which makes a whole longer magnetic field) horizontally, meaning the Field Axis PARALLEL to Ferrocell, and he moves it in a circle but still parallel to ferrocell plane, we could see that field moves (still with a delay) following physical movement.
When Magnetic Field Axis is PERPENDICULAR to Ferrocell Plane, and he just rotates magnet(s) there would not be seen any change in the curvilinear POLE FACE field...unless he TRANSLATES Field Axis, and still keeping a VERTICAL, PERPENDICULAR Positioning related to Ferrocell plane....Then Field would "follow" physical magnet movements.
You are quite close Fessor...but not exactly "resonance".
When we magnetize a piece of ferromagnetic metal by wrapping enameled wire around it and running an Electric Flow momentarily (Momentary Electric Field)...We STAMPED a PATTERN on the metal molecular structure, this "opens a gate" which "invokes" a Magnetic Field to PROPAGATE on the surrounding SPACE of that piece of metal.
And yes, you are completely right, that Field is NOT "PHYSICALLY" DIRECTLY RELATED to that inert -but now aligned- piece of metal...but to the OPENED GATE.
I am sorry but comparing iron filings to ferrocell...is like dumping mud on a sophisticated 3D Camera Lenses...and that is all you would get to observe...randomly dumped mud which would completely DARK CLOUD YOUR MAGNIFICENT VIEW.
Iron Filings do not follow a uniform concentration in a colloidal viscous liquid which allows light to pass through...but more likely a pile of random MUD which gets strongly magnetized by the Field INFLUENCE, then form CHAIN LINKS of SOLIDLY AND RANDOMLY GATHER TOGETHER LIKE CHUNKS around Field.
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Ufopolitics
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Hello Markoul,Originally posted by Markoul View PostUfopolitics,
Thanks for the video and the tip.
However Brian's video does not allow embedding
Anyway thank you.
Incorrect, if "Brian's Video" is PUBLISHED on You Tube, meaning have a link where you could "call it"...then the YT plugin we have here will display it...even if it is an "Unlisted Video" you still could show it in your post.
So Brian, nor anyone else can do absolutely nada to avoid video to be reproduced and played by a plugin if it is on YT.
Watch it below:
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If you wanna see how I did it, quote my message and look at what I meant by enclosing it with YT Code-Brackets.
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Ufopolitics
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