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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by Turion View Post

    Oh, and I love your innovative way of measuring RPM. Just listen to the sound. Hey, I’m talking louder now, does that mean I’m moving faster?
    Well I have another secret video of the whole job done but this is the only one I'll let you see. $2 cores you mean? You need'em cheap.




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  • dragon
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    Another interesting tid bit while experimenting with the potential difference between battery banks.... regardless of the load your running a 24 volt bank into a 12 volt is 50% efficient. Now if you take a 1012 volt system charging into a 1000 volt system the return rate is 98.8% efficient. The higher the voltage and the smaller the difference the closer you get to 100% transfer. Sounds interesting but the fact remains what ever load you use, that energy is lost.

    As an example, we run a 100 watt load across the above 1012/1000 volt system. At a 12 volt potential difference we are running 8.33 amps through the load. The actual wattage running through the system is 1012x8.33= 8430 watts into 1000x8.33=8330 watts leaving the loss through the load of 100 watts. A lot of work for a little bit of power.

    Just some fun facts if you take it to different levels...

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  • dragon
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    If the 3 battery system was working as it's explained it wouldn't matter what batteries ( or capacitors ) you used. The motor ( or other load ) is simply a "throttle" of sorts to control the charge rate to the single battery. The "spike" of the modified motor would help to de-sulfate the plates but adds no additional energy to the system. The outcome would be the same as using 2 batteries - one driving the motor the other on a charger. ( cheaper too ).

    When you put the system together it's easy to look at it and think your gaining something by running the load and charging a battery but when you place watt meters in line you can easily see that your paying for the charge as well as the load. You could also say that the motor itself has an output which could drive a generator.... the thing is, as soon as you place a load on the motor the input requirement goes up and thus increases the draw on the system by that amount and increases the same on the charge battery... if you add a 100 watt load on the motor then your now drawing 200 watt from the series batteries.

    It really doesn't take very long to see whats going on when you use watt meters in the system. If you use big battery banks and don't measure anything it's easy to assume something magical is going on. You could test the system over and over and over again without meters and never really know what's going on... months, years.... add some meters to the system... done in minutes...

    I'd love to be proved wrong on this - show me the error of my ways - please ...
    Last edited by dragon; 01-02-2021, 07:09 PM.

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  • Turion
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    How about that link to the $5.00 core material. You can’t post it because it doesn’t EXIST. You’re all mouth and no substance. Go ahead, post some MORE videos of someone else’s work. So you actually built a rotor and ONE coil. WOW! We’re all impressedwhere’s that link? Come on, you can do it.

    Oh, and I love your innovative way of measuring RPM. Just listen to the sound. Hey, I’m talking louder now, does that mean I’m moving faster?
    Last edited by Turion; 01-02-2021, 06:21 PM.

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by dragon View Post
    If you simply put meters on the 3 battery system you'll quickly see whats going on. In fig 1 you see a basic circuit running a 50 watt load... In fig 2 a 3 battery system driving a load and charging a battery. Pretty clear that there is nothing gained by using a 3 battery system. It's nice to dream and hope but with some simple meters you don't have to spend years to find the truth.
    cept when I put the modified motor on it. You can't use those $3 batteries tho. Did you ever compare your systems against the modified? The transfer from one battery set to another is true while the motor cranks on.

    Yes the batteries all go down just like when you hook them all in parallel straight to the motor. However the difference you can not explain. They go down by how much is the question. To find the answer you will need to do it for yourselves. Sure batteries go down, that's not the point of the experiment.

    Say half as bad? What did you get when you ran it?

    I wish somebody would come out swingin and show me one.chair dancing won't do.
    Last edited by BroMikey; 01-02-2021, 06:03 PM.

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  • dragon
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    If you simply put meters on the 3 battery system you'll quickly see whats going on. In fig 1 you see a basic circuit running a 50 watt load... In fig 2 a 3 battery system driving a load and charging a battery. Pretty clear that there is nothing gained by using a 3 battery system. It's nice to dream and hope but with some simple meters you don't have to spend years to find the truth.
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  • BroMikey
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    Here is the BOWLING coil video. Come on Dave show something running or did you quite half way thru again?

    Using the Bowling coil, generator armature reaction is shown to be zero. Of course you don't know what the zero is for.

    Go order some parts or something will ya?

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  • BroMikey
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    Not much chatter, all facts shown, 3 battery. 1 of many hard core video's not pablum like you post.

    BTW i have posted links that took long hours to find only to be ignored. No more.

    Here it is just like you taught me


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  • Turion
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    Cores for $5.00? Where's that link ol' buddy? Or is that just your mouth running again.
    Don't you ever get tired of posting everyone else's machines? Thank goodness Thane has SO many videos for you to cut and paste. Too bad you have nothing to show of your own producing any free energy. Time's a wastin'. Years gone by and nothing to show us. Just lots of posts giving me crap when I have shared every step of these machines. It's wonderful that you can be critical of what I built when you have built nothing.
    Last edited by Turion; 01-02-2021, 07:22 AM.

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  • BroMikey
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    This is your example, follow it. Talk slow to the point. Show the box at the same time. No Duh.
    You need instruction Sir. This has the coil like yours. 5 years ago Dave, man up. These coils were used from 2010-2016 then in 2017 the C cores came as a measure to self center using a 24 pole rotor.

    Last edited by BroMikey; 01-01-2021, 11:08 PM.

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by Turion View Post

    Just like bistander.

    And I'm getting a little tired of you telling us all about what Thane has done and expecting everyone else to do the work.
    Nice going David Bowling. Great video. Time to come out and show boat.

    BTW nobody is going to see what you see. Just rambling to them. Plus you have no goal in the video. What about all the wasted mechanical? Just battery chatter with no goal.

    In the other video the ferrite can not just be anything, it won't work, you were told this. Stop wasting time. Use the right cores and finish, not for me, finish for you. I already know what to do and your box does not impress me at all (nothing personal) so keep your secret video's.

    On the other hand here is the guy who is not scared to show his work running. Same ole Dave. Zero. First step, you tried but all we saw was a light bulb flash. Make this first step, you are well able, just not willing over various concerns, scared, money, afraid of MIB, no one cares block-aid, a mess Dave, you. Say one thing not mean it, do another.

    Last edited by BroMikey; 01-01-2021, 10:16 PM.

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  • Turion
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    You show me where I can buy those cores for $5.00 each. Post a link.
    Who sent me a box worth thousands that I ignored?
    I don't think you have any idea what you are talking about. But that doesn't stop you. Just like bistander.

    And I'm getting a little tired of you telling us all about what Thane has done and expecting everyone else to do the work. GET OFF YOUR BUTT AND DO IT YOURSELF, OR SHUT UP. I'm done here. I will submit the results to Aaron as I promised. That's it for wasting my time with people like you.

    You want to follow the progress of this build, follow it on my YouTube channel.
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCV1...-eGhjYA/videos

    There will be no results posted, just building instructions. If you want results or proof the solution is simple. Build it yourself.

    Those results, videos, etc. WILL be provided to Aaron as I promised.
    Last edited by Turion; 12-31-2020, 04:58 PM.

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  • BroMikey
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    Looks like you are between a rock and a hard place. You wipe yer azz on $100 bills for stuff just sitting around don't cry money. Someone sent you a box worth thousands. Like I said and you ignored. Thane is inputting 240watts and the return is 3700 watts so get a grip. Finish what you started. You have spent $40,000 plus , battery machines, printers you name it. I am not buying any of these excuses. Your device is a valuable invention worth completing half way thru the project.

    Those cores are worth about $5 a piece and you are paying $700 okay.

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    Last edited by BroMikey; 12-29-2020, 07:04 PM.

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  • Turion
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    Just a brief update. I got a price quote back from the only company I could find that would sell to me the "minimum" amount I need for the generator. Everyone else had it for sale in metric units and their minimum was 10 times what I need. Anyway, a SINGLE PIECE that is .75" by 3.25" is $25.00. Shipping and handling is $25.00 so $75 just for enough to make 2 coils. I will test them for output and heating as compared to the two kinds of ferrite cores and the iron cores. I'm not spending almost $700 unless it is REALLY worth it. Just to prove a point? For a machine that is obsolete? PLEASE!!!

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  • Turion
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    This evening I got the parts for the adjustable neutralization magnets from my buddy, so tomorrow I will assemble that stage of the generator and reshoot the video of how the neutralization magnets go into the machine to reflect what is actually happening now that some changes have been made. The video I shoot will have the same name, but it will now be a different video, and the old one will be deleted. Hope that makes sense.

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