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  • Turion
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    Voltan,
    The design of having the coils and magnets extending out from the rotor like spokes on a wheel is fine for only one or two coils, but you are pulling in one direction with the coil and pushing in that SAME direction with the magnet. And how many magnet and coils combinations can you have in the "spoke" arrangement on say a 10" rotor? That's about 31 inches of circumference. When I did the math on that, I saw I could only have about 5 coils with the opposing magnets on a 10" rotor. I have ten coils on a 10" rotor with my machine in a different configuration.

    Plus, look at the direction of "stresses" on my setup. The coils are in pairs on each side of the rotor, so they are both pulling the rotor magnets toward them in opposite directions. Equal stress. The magnets on the stator are both pushing the rotor magnet away from them at the same time, toward each other, so Equal stress. All the pushes and pulls cancel each other out, so the rotor shaft and bearing have little or no stress forcing them sideways. I did a lot of different experimenting with this, and then settled on this configuration. I am not saying it is the best, but it is the best I could come up with.

    My two new motors arrived today, so I am going to try and put out at least ONE new video this weekend. I will show the motor running on 36 volts and how many amps it takes to just turn the rotor. Then, with the rotor already up to speed, I will add 10 bobbins with just cores in them, so everyone can see that there is indeed magnetic drag that slows down the prime mover when just the cores of the coils are put in place. The video after that I will show the motor running with those 12 cores in place and the magnets all adjusted to eliminate the drag and reduce the amp draw of the motor.

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by voltan View Post
    i changed pic 3 to a closeup of my hacked rc motor. them neos don’t have holes, but i will get some that bolt on. it seems fairly balanced in that it’s just mounted on a bit of acrylic and it just sits stationary when i spin the rotor, and it runs straight in a video of it spinning. but yeah, i won’t push it. it’s just to try the concept of having a pm on 1 side and a coil on the other side for a stator.
    Sure, let me see it when you get it up and running. Hole will help and you can balanced rotors so you can get like 1000 rpm, just put a plywood wall all of the way around it and watch it spin looking down on the system. Than pull the walls off when you work on it. That way if the kids come in the room while you run it they will be safe, you too.

    PM on 1 side coil on the other side? Happy testing. Only 1 way to find out.

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  • Turion
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    Voltan,
    Same principle at work as in my generator, which I show below. It's what I have been saying for YEARS now. What you have shown is EXACTLY the 7th grade science experiment I asked bystander to do that he hasn't got around to yet. It proves what I have been saying is true. I just configured it differently after many small builds. But I started with EXACTLY the configuration you show. Then I moved to a motor coil as well as a generator coil so I didn't have a motor turning it. And finally I went to the configuration shown below, where the rotor is turned by a small motor and I have multiple coils and multiple sets of magnets on the stator. One set of magnets for each coil pair. An odd number of coils and an even number of magnets on the rotor. If you watch my videos I explain why. I already know it works, so have fun.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPGrCicsZXA
    ROTOR SETUP.png
    Last edited by Turion; 04-29-2021, 03:40 PM.

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  • voltan
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    i changed pic 3 to a closeup of my hacked rc motor. them neos don’t have holes, but i will get some that bolt on. it seems fairly balanced in that it’s just mounted on a bit of acrylic and it just sits stationary when i spin the rotor, and it runs straight in a video of it spinning. but yeah, i won’t push it. it’s just to try the concept of having a pm on 1 side and a coil on the other side for a stator.

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  • BroMikey
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    Magnetic generator engine.

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  • BroMikey
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    Now all I need is a drive unit and no input electricity will be needed.

    FREE POWER MAGNETIC ENGINE

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  • BroMikey
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    Backyard rotor man, "STRIKES AGAIN"

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  • BroMikey
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    Here is my rotor that turned out perfect at 1600 rpm. All homemade backyard formulated. Now if you have $10,000 to shell out every time you turn around like the big boss, you won't need to see this video. In fact you will probably mock and ignore the effort.


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  • BroMikey
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    If this is your rotor I would stay under 1000 rpm's assuming (I can not see) that those magnets have a hole in them and a bolt is used to mount them to this bent piece of metal. Vibration could be quite high. Nice blue motor. Do you have a coil in mind? Here is the proper tolerance for safety. This rotor is good for 400 rpm.

    Last edited by BroMikey; 04-29-2021, 09:43 AM.

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  • voltan
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    after weeks of considering how to make a rotor, i remembered that i only need a 2 magnet rotor to experiment with the hybrid stator concept in pic 1.
    i give you the bunnings solution. it looks feasible to have more than 2 magnets and if they got a central hole would be pretty secure bolted on.
    and that spins free and easy on a RC hobby motor with its integral bearings and the cogging is deleted by removing the neos and the outer drum. pic 3. i can’t upload a video of it.
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    Last edited by voltan; 04-29-2021, 02:53 AM.

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  • Turion
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    Dragon,
    You never get more than you started with. The point is, the energy that is recovered did work and can be reused to do work again. Until the LOAD is used to produce some energy, which means an efficient load, you will never get more than you started with. Or at least I don't know how to.
    Here is the first build of the zoo force motor I did years ago. I know I have videos of more recent builds, but I learned an incredible amount from this first build, and it is exactly the same KIND of motor that Bob French is using. As far as I am concerned, the Zero Force motor is the GREATEST GIFT John Bedini gave us.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXOu49oVhHs

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by voltan View Post
    here’s a clip of a pulse motor in the zone at 1500 rpm. hehe sounds like the presenter’s in the zone as well..
    https://youtu.be/ttZEttQn00A
    Yup he has been around for years and he finally found thane Heins experiments but his first attempts way way back failed. I did not see this success video. Good to know he is not blaming Thane like so many do when they can't produce.

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  • voltan
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    here’s a clip of a pulse motor in the zone at 1500 rpm. hi to all the rasta experimenters.
    https://youtu.be/ttZEttQn00A
    Last edited by voltan; 04-28-2021, 09:28 AM.

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by dragon View Post
    Turion, As a mental experiment, follow the progression starting with the first one charged and the second at 0, then series these together and add a fresh 0 charged cap... follow the progression by adding a fresh 0 charge cap and putting the last in series with the others as you go along.... did you get more than the original 288 joules you started with?
    Dave said that? Yup I remember back when he talked about this example using many many many battery packs for solar for his Dad. My question for this cap test Dragon is, why would you keep sending the energy to a 3rd, 4th and 5th cap if the 1st to 2nd cap gave no increase? It follows that the 3rd cap would make it even less as caps have internal resistance also.

    So your 288 joules put over 2 loads at 144 joule+144joules will = 288 joules right? Nope, just splitting up the loads does not bring in extra energy. I would love to figure this out and find the principle I should be searching for and then I am told that the magic is the heightened POTENTIAL DIFFERENCE using the converter and THEN I will hit the jackpot. So you see how this develops? Fist one thing then if you perform the test you are told another.

    Well wait, what kind of batteries did you buy? That must be why you are a failure or your converter is full of bad components or because you are a non believer the experiment can read your mind and this will not work for you is another cosmic response. Maybe Dave is right but I don't see why yet.

    When 288 joules at 24v goes thru a load to another 0 cap the load changes as 2nd cap fills. This mean the load power is on an ever changing curve and only a watt meter can figure out. The load might be a light and would be bright at first and then go dim. These joules can be counted with a $6 meter.

    Dragon already tried it but he is ashamed of it.Me too.
    Last edited by BroMikey; 04-28-2021, 04:46 AM.

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  • dragon
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    Turion, As a mental experiment, follow the progression starting with the first one charged and the second at 0, then series these together and add a fresh 0 charged cap... follow the progression by adding a fresh 0 charge cap and putting the last in series with the others as you go along.... did you get more than the original 288 joules you started with?

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