Motor Generators

[BroMikey]

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[BroMikey]

Hey WANTO glad the weather might break. Here are the foto's I posted online in 2016. Been there 6 years and 1 month, I don't erase my work.

More coming, stay tuned, it's a day to hide out of the heat. From 95 to 2002 I worked full time out doors in Walterboro SC and I was always soaked from head to toe with water running down into my socks. No joke.

[wantomake]

Are you using the Matt motor to run a load, like turning
a rotor with magnets on it past some Lenz free coils to supply power? That would be my first suggestion of the kind of contribution it can make. It adds basically no additional load to the system. The Matt motor is capable of the necessary 2800 rpm I needed for my original coils to run in a Lenz neutral state, which were simply 3 strands of # 23 each 1,000 feet long with steel rod cores made from welding rods per John Bedini. Too many coils and you will have to much magnetic drag, so two coils is probably your limit without neutralizing magnets.

I’m not sure exactly how you are using the boost module and Matt motor in your setup. If you are running the boost module between the positives (which provides constant current to your two charge batteries in a four battery system) and then running the Matt motor between the output of the boost set to 24 volts and your two charge batteries (to provide a pulse) you can TRY replacing the Matt motor with the inverter. It will also provide a pulse as it charges then discharges capacitors to create AC power. The problem will be the frequency.

As you saw, you needed to run the Matt motor at a specific voltage for it to “pulse” the batteries at the correct frequency.

I would recommend putting a capacitor in parallel with your charge batteries to accept any energy that isn’t able to be used by just two batteries and is wasted. You saw my video where I charged 12 batteries at once, so the energy is THERE. Then run the inverter on the capacitor and see how that affects the charge cycle.

I would not run on the source batteries unless you have back charging and the source batteries are also climbing. I have had them hold steady, but never had them actually charge when they were being used as the high side of the system. If they ARE charging, I would put a cap in parallel to collect any wasted energy and run the inverter off the cap.

That’s all I got. Matt knows more and may disagree with everything I said.

Found it! Thanks for good instructions and experiential knowledge that you share here.

I'll place a DPDT switch for the inverter to stay on the charge side.

BTW as you described above in second paragraph is how I'm setup with the Matt Motor and boost module between the positives.

[wantomake]

Good Sunday morning to All,
It's been a stay in the house weekend while this heat wave is in this area. Was 100+ with the humidity yesterday.

I want to get back to running some simple test with the Matt motor setup. Really want to connect the inverter up to a capacitor and see how many watts can be pulled from either the source side or charge side. Turion I remember you said to pull from which side. I'll go back and look to be sure. Sorry I do forget details sometimes. Lol!

Looking forward to a cooler week ahead with hopeful shop time.

[BroMikey]

I make no judgement about anyone until I have replicated or at least TRIED to replicate their stuff. I know at least SOME of what he says is true. I also know he has a proprietary core material that he is using that is under an NDA, because of folks I know.

Every OU transformer has had to get away from iron laminates. Core material is one of the most important components on the practical side after principles. Whether static or rotating it is a transformer.

Many companies openly display their mix recipe. What we are looking for is a mix for not just a transformer but a power transformer. In the 90s I was told I could sign an NDA so I could see the right mix number for the next Gen switch mode pass transformers. A couple of years later it was common knowledge. If that person is under an NDA it is not just for one detail of the design, it's all of it. There is nothing extraordinary about his cores

[Turion]

I make no judgement about anyone until I have replicated or at least TRIED to replicate their stuff. I know at least SOME of what he says is true. I also know he has a proprietary core material that he is using that is under an NDA, because of folks I know.

[BroMikey]

I don't think he has had it refined to this degree for long, certainly not 10 years. So do you think he is a con? Is that why you put it that way? I guess he could be a scammer.

I have quoted Thane 2amps per coil approx value running on the bike in this case or now as you watch but each can max higher under other load conditions

To answer your other question I would not immediately toss him in the pile of con-artist till I checked the red tape in Canada

They wouldn't have him at the conference so maybe his rig is to good to be true. Sav might be doing that or the QEG build or Stan M or EV Grey and the list goes on. Stall in court, big money promises from oil rich money dogs sent to put a lid on it.

[Turion]

First you say THREE SMALL coils producing 67 volts and 5.5 amps which would be 368 watts from THREE COILS at 3500 rpm. using twenty four 1" magnets.

Thane shows 67vdc and 5.5amps going back to the bike batteries using 3 coils, while screaming the motor and drive train including the back wheels. All done at 3500rpm range with a small coil due to having the right core. 24 magnets 1" dia

Then you say ONE coil produces 2-5 amps at 75 volts. Which would be 150 to 375 watts (at 5 amps) from ONE COIL

Says it currently produces 2 amp but max is 5amps per coil.

not two coils like yours, 1/3 mass
What is that 75v X 2A = 150watts max 375w

In the second quote you say one coil will produce 375 watts, which means THREE coils should produce 1,125 watts, yet you say in the first quote that three coils produces 368 watts. So the 'MOTOR" is consuming 757 watts. The thing is, if Thane has 3 coils that will output 1,125 watts, why not build a 12 coil generator and forget about the motor idea? That's a 4500 watt generator. He could market that in a heartbeat and not go through all the nonsense he has gone through for the last ten years.

[BroMikey]

What do you mean by "small coil"? smaller than the 3 1/2 x 3" coil bobbin? Because those numbers are not out of line for THREE coils the size I am using with a rotor that has that many magnets on it.

that is a 1" gap so what do you think? Says it currently produces 2 amp but max is 5amps per coil.

not two coils like yours, 1/3 mass
What is that 75v X 2A = 150watts max 375w https://youtu.be/zU2Mh3Q184M?t=49

[Turion]

Oh Okay, for a minute I thought it was open season for BYE. So who is going to show the box if it ever gets up and running?

Thane is back after 5 months, I know you don't are but Thane shows 67vdc and 5.5amps going back to the bike batteries using 3 coils, while screaming the motor and drive train including the back wheels. All done at 3500rpm range with a small coil due to having the right core. 24 magnets 1" dia

What do you mean by "small coil"? smaller than the 3 1/2 x 3" coil bobbin? Because those numbers are not out of line for THREE coils the size I am using with a rotor that has that many magnets on it.

[BroMikey]

“If we worked on the assumption that what is accepted as true really is true, then there would be little hope for innovation or human advance.” ~ Wright Brothers.

74.9v at 5.3amps recharge while driving

[BroMikey]

No. They are finishing up and getting it in to be tested, like I said. I get to work on other things now, which is what I wanted, so everyone is happy.

Oh Okay, for a minute I thought it was open season for BYE. So who is going to show the box if it ever gets up and running?

Thane is back after 5 months, I know you don't are but Thane shows 67vdc and 5.5amps going back to the bike batteries using 3 coils, while screaming the motor and drive train including the back wheels. All done at 3500rpm range with a small coil due to having the right core. 24 magnets 1" dia

[Turion]

No. They are finishing up and getting it in to be tested, like I said. I get to work on other things now, which is what I wanted, so everyone is happy.

[BroMikey]

It’s out of my hands now. I gave it to those guys to finish up. I have too many other things I need to work on.

So you gave up on your big machine more magnets and other core material blew your mind.

Bye is going to say he has been right all along. To much cement work to be able to finish the project before conference. And you called Bye a coward 5 years plus

[Turion]

It’s out of my hands now. I gave it to those guys to finish up. I have too many other things I need to work on.

The Matt motor allowed you to charge a coil and discharge it (SPIKE) in the direction of least resistance (charge battery)

Here is a simple way to discharge a coil through a spark gap using a magnet and a set of auto points. Gave 10 coils, use 10 points. One timing rotor set to the correct rpm.

https://youtu.be/lyqIeZ6MP5o