Single Wire Power - A Search for Ambient Power to do Wwork

[mikrovolt]

OK gradient if qualified as you did and can be discussed such as Tesla's radiant. And I will try to explain why it changes from medium to medium. The reference to Tom Bearden also trys to explain the potential gradient with respect to Vacuum. I have used this term over 50 years. If you would kindly steer this in a meaningful direction thanks.

In the Tesla experiment the potential voltage is much higher at the plate which is
elevated however it takes a long period of time to charge the plate due to the poor conductivity of the atmosphere. However there are several work arounds that Tesla
used to improve this I will leave this to discussion. There is another scheme below for the ground
to accumulate charge more rapidly. Can you identify this?
There is AC wave that traverses the potential gradient, this is vertical.
What role does the horizontal projected radiant energy have ? (recall that the medium is a poor conductor)
By insulating the plate what effect does this have?
Is there a charge separation mechanism ? (several builders on here have done this correctly)
Can the dipole sustain and enlarge a field ?

My flash light is radiant but it is not what Tesla is using. Be careful of using general terms.
The slope of the equation = m .. from the latin 1635 gradien
but the ancients used the term delta along with a discriptor.
energy is not born in the ambient and it is not destroyed or consumed it is a disruptive philosophy.
no capital letters necessary. Ambiens Latin meaning encompassing or surrounding.

[Bob Smith]

Mikrovolt
When speaking of gradient, we're talking about points at different locations in space which possess a difference of potential relative to one another. Look at Tesla's patent for collecting radiant energy. There is a gradient of potential between the raised plate and the ground. Stay with it, my friend. DavidE is not talking nonsense. We need gradient potential to extract power from the aether; resonance and resultant uncoupling of magnetism from dielectricity seems to be the key to fostering these aetheric GPs in order to produce or access useable power.
Bob

[DavidE]

Mikrovolt

A challenge here that might as well be Mt Everest... is adopting a language that will satisfy all observation points. Each descriptor is a minefield of old and new.

The gradient exercise is an understanding that there are infinite variables driven by a few fundamentals. There are statics driven by infinite dynamics.

We should not be arguing about what something is or how it works if we have not yet grasp the foundation values. Proof of owning them as knowledge would be an ability to manifest capacity to do work, in quantities defined by the designer. Simply replicating long dead inventors work does not qualify.

What we know is only as good as what we can do with it. And so far, those that wish to dictate the content of this thread are less than credible on their own. They wear their dogma like a shield and spear, not an invitation to energetically couple, for the sake of discovering a new power source.

I have not one shred of a doubt, ALL POWER IS BIRTHED IN THE AMBIENT. I don't care what you call it or how you describe it. It is a constitutive component of earth/space... without regard for man's presence.

If this thought is too disruptive, than I will move along and cease my contributions to this thread.

[mikrovolt]

Tom Bearden regarding vacuum suggests less credence to measurements of classical EM.

Instead we need to understand that it is really the magnitude of virtual photon flux exchange
between the vacuum and the charged particle. ref Edit/Find 1959
Tom Bearden on VPF

Since most of us do not look thru a telescope the term magnitude is the size of
the flux (VPF) is aetheric medium transporting conjegate pairs between dimensions.

It is possible to spend much time on radiant energy and miss Tom Bearden's point.
Sure radiant is real and useful as a manifestation in early electrical science but for those
who would like to venture beyond it becomes a part of the VPF exchange.

Gradient like radiant goes everywhere and gets you nowhere it is the philosophy of James Lovelock a soft satan ideology
forced on science students and proven wrong for over 30 years. The thread stopped as a result of the gradient nonsense
pictures of digital photo gradients. Also Bob Smith explained post #1 the scope on one wire and I am only trying to cope with
disruptive philosophy.

[dR-Green]

Good research work thx1138, but unfortunately that's the wrong answer. These people here are looking for something far less factual and tangible. The applicable truth will only get you ridiculed around these parts. Or as the case may be, when there are too many documented facts to argue against, rendering any disinformation and distraction attempt impossible, they walk away shaking their heads in the hope that no attention will be put on it.

radiant
adjective
1. emitting rays of light; shining; bright
3. Physics. emitted or propagated by radiation
noun
5. a point or object from which rays proceed
7. a refractory absorbing and radiating heat from the flames of a gas fireplace or the like

Radiant | Define Radiant at Dictionary.com

radiant energy
noun, Physics.
1. energy transmitted in wave motion, especially electromagnetic wave motion

British Dictionary definitions for radiant energy
1. energy that is emitted or propagated in the form of particles or electromagnetic radiation. It is measured in joules Qe

radiant energy in Science

Energy in the form of waves, especially electromagnetic waves. Radio waves, x-rays, and visible light are all forms of radiant energy

Radiant energy | Define Radiant energy at Dictionary.com

[DavidE]

Uhhh, well, err, walks away shaking head...

[thx1138]

discoveries by which it will be possible to communicate with the planets and to produce radium in unlimited quantity for $1 a pound11 Feb 1935 - PRICE OF RADIUM. BIG DROP EXPECTED. Developing C...Google Answers: Cost of household items in 1935?http://homepages.cae.wisc.edu/~blanc...chardKorea.pdfhttp://www.orau.org/ptp/PTP%20Librar.../ramreview.pdf - Radioactive Material Regulations History

Radioisotope batteries are in use today. The two Voyager spacecraft which are just now exiting the solar system into interstellar space use a variation known as a radioisotope thermoelectric generator for both power and heat. Its primary output is heat and thermocouples convert some of the heat to electricity. Their distance from the sun makes solar arrays useless and service is out of the question. They were launched in 1977 and are expected to have enough power to transmit data through 2020 and possibly 2025. Radioisotope batteries were also used in the Pioneer 10, Pioneer 11, Galileo, Ulysses, Cassini, New Horizons and the Mars Science Laboratory. RTGs were used to power the two Viking landers and for the scientific experiments left on the moon by the crews of Apollo 12 through 17.
Radioisotope thermoelectric generator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/flash_html.html
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/08/26/us...r-battery.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_batteryhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americium - Smoke detectors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magneto...amic_generator
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritium_illumination Tritium
http://depletedcranium.com/my-attemp...um-key-chains/ - Modern regulations nightmare

In fact, the antipathy toward any form of radiation is not well founded for low level radiation. The radiation exposure guidelines that are in place today were developed from the effects seen after atomic bombs were detonated in a linearhttp://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0813201434.htm - NAS misleads the world

If you have an old TV, computer monitor, or oscilloscope that uses a CRT you already have a cathode ray radiant energy device.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/02...lowrings_mugs/ - Tritium radiant energy device for sale

http://www.unitednuclear.com/ - Nuclear materials for sale

[thx1138]

Wardenclyffe Tower - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaTesla Patent 1,061,142 - Fluid PropulsionTesla Patent 1,266,175 - Lightning-Protector - Lightning Protector patent
"The Tesla Collection" - "Tesla Has New Pointless Lightning Rod". ELECTRICAL EXPERIMENTER, October 1, 1918radium is not a generator but a transformer of energy, the emanations being caused by cosmic rays of immense power capable of penetrating all obstacles however thick.Popular Science Archive | Popular Sciencesmall particles, each carrying so small a charge that we are justified in calling them neutrons.it will not require devices for storing energy as would be necessary with devices using wind, tide or sunlight.

[thx1138]

What radiant energy is - 4 of 6

In 1896 Henri Becquerel discovered that uranium salts emitted rays that resembled the cathode rays discovered by Roentgen in 1895 in their penetrating power. He demonstrated that this radiation did not depend on an external source of energy but seemed to arise spontaneously from uranium itself.
Henri Becquerel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - Henri Becquerel

So here we have a natural source of radiating particles carrying an electrical charge that does not require an artificially generated stimulation to cause the emission of the charged particleMarie Curie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaErnest Rutherford - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJames Chadwick - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaTesla Said, Compiled by John Ratzlaffhttp://teslacollection.com/

[thx1138]

What radiant energy is - 3 of 6

Nikola Tesla filed his application for patent titled Apparatus for the Utilization of Radiant Energy on March 21, 1901 and the patent was granted November 5, 1901 under patent number 685,957. Some quotes from that patent are instructive regarding radiant energy. Highlights are added by me.
Tesla Patent 685,957 - Apparatus for the Utilization of Radiant EnergyIt is well known that certain radiationssources of such radiant energy throw off with great velocity minute particles of matter that are strongly electrifiedafter a suitable time intervalelectrical energy is generally supplied at a very slow ratethe amount of energy conveyed to it per unit of time is under otherwise identical conditions proportionate to the area exposedamalgamatedTheir operation is based on the discovery that an arc between a pool of mercury and a metal anode only allows current to pass in one direction.Mercury Arc Rectifiers - Mercury Arc Rectifiers
Tesla Patent 609,245 - Electrical Circuit Controller - Controller
Tesla Patent 609,246 - Electric Circuit Controller - Controller
Tesla Patent 609,248 - Electric Circuit Controller - Controller
http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-...q=bWVyY3VyeQ== - Controller
http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-...q=bWVyY3VyeQ== - Controller
http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-...q=bWVyY3VyeQ== - Controller
http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-...q=bWVyY3VyeQ==shows a modified form of apparatus used in connection with an artificial source of radiant energythe source S of radiant energy is a special form of Roentgen tube devised by me, having one terminal k, generally of aluminum, in the form of half a sphere, with a plain polished surface on the front side, from which the streams are thrown off. It may be excited by attaching it to one of the terminals of any generator of sufficiently high electromotive forceThe rays or radiations which are to be utilized for the operation of the apparatus above described in general terms may be derived from a natural source, as the sunhttp://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-...q=Njg1LDk1OA==http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-...q=NjQ1LDU3Ng== - 30,000 feet
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/te...oradonotes.htmhttp://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-...q=MTI2NjE3NQ==

[thx1138]

On Roentgen Rays from Electrical Review, March 11th, 1896radiant energyTesla?s Latest Roentgen Ray Investigations from Electrical Review, April 22nd, 1896 - More Roentgen Rays

Referring again to the stinging rays, Tesla warns about problems of being exposed to cathode rays. He describes various discomforts encountered when experimenting with cathode rays at high power including tingling sensations and burns on flesh in his article in Electrical Review of May 5, 1897 titled On Hurtful Actions of Lenard and Roentgen Tubes. This is critical information for anyone experimenting with radiant energy.
On Hurtful Actions of Lenard and Roentgen Tubes from Electrical Review, May 5th, 1897

[thx1138]

What radiant energy is - 1 of 6

Duncan,
Where does the term "Radiant Energy" come from?

https://archive.org/stream/experimen...e/n17/mode/2up - Experiments with Alternate Currents of High Potential and High Frequency

What is this book? On radiant matter by Sir William Crookes. Tesla attended various schools from 1870 to 1880 so it was probably 1880 that he read the book, the lecture which it contains being presented August 22, 1879.
http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-timeline-1856-birth-of-tesla - Tesla timeline

In On radiant matter by Sir William Crookes he references an even earlier lecture by Michael Faraday on radiant matter given in 1816.
https://archive.org/details/OnRadiantMatterhttps://archive.org/details/lifelettersoffar01joneuoftCrookes radiometer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - Crookes Radiometer

Today it is accepted that the vanes in the Crookes Radiometer turn due to heat rather than radiation rays impacting the vanes. That is of little importance to this chronology because at the time it was thought that the motion was caused by radiant matter.

Further experiments led to Crookes developing the Crookes tube which is a modification of the earlier Geissler tube invented in 1857 by Heinrich Geissler which was the first gas-discharge lamp that caused fluorescence of matter in the bulb by electrification. We know them today as neon tubes. Crookes and others used modified versions of Geissler tubes to further study cathode rays.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geissler_tube - Geissler Tube
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crookes_tubehttp://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_priz...enard-bio.htmlhttp://www.aluminum.org/aluminum-adv...story-aluminum - History of aluminum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induction_furnace - Induction furnace

In 1895 Wilhelm Roentgen discovers the X-ray using modified Crookes and Lenard tubes, the X being taken from mathematics where it designates an unknown value, meaning an unknown cathode ray.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_R%C3%B6ntgen

[DavidE]

Ambient, rectify, polarize... utilize. Meat starting at 14:14 in...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1237&v=lwbnMSIBTi8

Visual evidence of dielectric power

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dlIYad2WzA

[DavidE]

Duncan

To the discussion of "Gradients."

Random

When we say random, it is a speculative premise that there is no external force interaction or behavior opened or closed by some set of criteria, known or unknown.

I don't believe in random. I believe that just because something is beyond my ability to perceive or comprehend, it should not be considered not to exist. It simply is beyond my current ability to quantify a mechanism or organizational force.


Gradient

On the other hand, Gradients are a larger truth of the simplicity or complexity of existence. Gradients suggest that there are peak values relative to your objective - and virtually unlimited ranges of values in every spatial and dimensional direction from that (relative) point.


Being able to understand and create potential differentials through a better understanding of GRADIENTS, will take us to new places that we all aspire to. No matter where in the universe that we may find ourselves.

SMALL SAMPLE


LARGER SAMPLE


Note: Look at the bottom image... is it morphing, or giving the appearance of moving? Neither - its your brain adjusting how you are interpreting what you are seeing.

[DavidE]

Duncan,

trying to work out how to engineer the effect you refer to as 'radiant energy'

Where does the term "Radiant Energy" come from? Surely from at least one inventor of significant lore (Tesla)... that readers over time become convinced that the reading of his words, are consistent with the knowing of the terms implications. I believe that this is a flawed premise. No matter what Tesla knew and demonstrated, it doesn't easily transform to technical knowledge of designing for new outcomes.

As to what Mr. Bedini has said countless times - the learning is in the doing - building and testing circuits to better understand the extents of the potential. Not observing the doing, but THE DOING.

What can run or do work powered with Radiant energy? This is the point that the glass vase strikes the floor and splinters into countless pieces - each giving a glint of a perspective. Very few correlate, or even go further to apply and test to practicality.

So, should we care about Radiant Energy?

Should we invent devices that are powered by this fundamental environmental force?

I would think first we need to be clear about what it is, and understand enough to be able to summon it with modern technology.

Then once we can agree on its composition, and can attract it, the next logical course would be to harness the virtually inexhaustible supply.

To stay consistent with Bob Smith's thread, lets stipulate Radiant/Ambient as the term of energetic discovery. We know that the hairpin circuit produces Radiant energy at one stage of the circuit, but what other simple circuits might helps us become acquainted with Radiant/Ambient energy?