Cap Dump Circuit

[Dave45]

Yea got carried away, back to basics

[BroMikey]

I guess so

Hey Mike
Mark E and I were discussing the circuit on another forum and I ran across an unexpected reaction.
Mark seen it but I had to drudge through to find it, Im kindof hard headed I have to see it for myself to believe
Anyway Im still pluggen along been really busy with work but I will get around to building it soon but Im going to start with the basic circuit and build from there.

Hi Dave

I guess you are really to busy right now because I have no idea what you are and not building. So far I have something like close to a 50 circuits that are all mostly boost/buck design.

It is a shame that I never got an answer on the beast Osc Mod so I could try it, instead 5 other circuits have since been posted with no end in sight or any rhyme or reason.

I am lost. You are designing stuff and way past my limited abilities.

Maybe this winter you will get time, it's only a few weeks away

It's just another batch of circuit trials to run through the grinder, let me know how they come out.

Mike

[Dave45]

Hey Mike
Mark E and I were discussing the circuit on another forum and I ran across an unexpected reaction.
Mark seen it but I had to drudge through to find it, Im kindof hard headed I have to see it for myself to believe
Anyway Im still pluggen along been really busy with work but I will get around to building it soon but Im going to start with the basic circuit and build from there.

[BroMikey]

Fourth Stage?

@Dave

Yes I understand your essay of the expanding and collapsing fields however where the resistor is placed in the BEAST OSC diagram would require ALL power ALL to travel through it to the first capacitor as well as the second and battery.
Yes in the fourth stage we are trying to limit the neg to the coil this way when the magnetic field in that coil collapses it will pull from the ambent rather than the drive battery, but a switch would work better.

Hi Dave

If you want only the fourth power circuit limited then the resistor should go at the emitter leg of the fourth transistor but the way you have this placed, all four channels are limited by that resistor and she is going to throw some major heat.

Keep thinking it through so you can move forward with these designs. I can't do much yet so I am not going to be much help making them. Maybe in a few years I will.

So the idea as I understand it is that you want to use the resistor to toggle between switches? Why not use another small coil to trigger so that not conflicts occur?

Was that the plan? Make both switches open and close opposite each other without microprocessors?

I see your description of what you say the reason why but this is unclear to me. It is better if I ask what the goals are, such as the resistor.

Keep up the great designs. All of these circuits will need to be perfected after they hit the breadboard.

Mike

[Dave45]

@Dave

Yes I understand your essay of the expanding and collapsing fields however where the resistor is placed in the BEAST OSC diagram would require ALL power ALL to travel through it to the first capacitor as well as the second and battery.
Yes in the fourth stage we are trying to limit the neg to the coil this way when the magnetic field in that coil collapses it will pull from the ambent rather than the drive battery, but a switch would work better.

I am not sure if you wanted that resistor to change the first stage operation as well as the secondary stage or stages. At present we are looking at heat build up at the resistor and this may seem small yet my circuit uses three parallel Mosfet's per a single 14awg strand of solid copper magnet wire.
Yes heat and loss, another reason for the switch.
I know your circuit is moving alot of power and not a good candidate to experiment with, I used your circuit as an example to boost power without using two different frequency's.
Your circuit would be indicative of a final build after the perimeters were explored.

Using this as boost converter at elevated power levels by comparison of the first runs I had made. The 14awg can handle 14 amps and 10-12 amps all day long without heat production.

So I will be at around 8 amps per leg on the four separate channels for a 35 amp Max ceiling @ 60vdc to charge capacitors in the bank, instead of funneling everything through this large wirewound resistor.
Thats too much power for an experimental circuit unless your Tesla not me I chicken that reminds me every good shop needs a chicken stick

(.1) Ohm is suggested as a possible entry point always leaving room for tuning but I am not real sure if the PNP could handle all of that power. Of course I would need another bank of 12 Mosfet's of the PNP type to handle the power generated by the boost converter.
Yes

So this is looking more like the BEDINI energy pump without the coils and Aether gathering open ended coils. There are big differences yes but using the NPN and PNP is my focus on hardware.


Mike

[BroMikey]

Resistor

This is the reasoning behind the circuit.
Edited text in the image.

@Dave

Yes I understand your essay of the expanding and collapsing fields however where the resistor is placed in the BEAST OSC diagram would require ALL power ALL to travel through it to the first capacitor as well as the second and battery.

I am not sure if you wanted that resistor to change the first stage operation as well as the secondary stage or stages. At present we are looking at heat build up at the resistor and this may seem small yet my circuit uses three parallel Mosfet's per a single 14awg strand of solid copper magnet wire.

Using this as boost converter at elevated power levels by comparison of the first runs I had made. The 14awg can handle 14 amps and 10-12 amps all day long without heat production.

So I will be at around 8 amps per leg on the four separate channels for a 35 amp Max ceiling @ 60vdc to charge capacitors in the bank, instead of funneling everything through this large wirewound resistor.

(.1) Ohm is suggested as a possible entry point always leaving room for tuning but I am not real sure if the PNP could handle all of that power. Of course I would need another bank of 12 Mosfet's of the PNP type to handle the power generated by the boost converter.

So this is looking more like the BEDINI energy pump without the coils and Aether gathering open ended coils. There are big differences yes but using the NPN and PNP is my focus on hardware.

Mike

[BroMikey]

Mod2




Okay this is where the resistor was suggested to be put

Matthew Wrote:

No after the second transistor. SO Positive source, NPN, Coil, NPN, Resistor, Source ground.

Matt

[Dave45]

Just when I think I have taken the circuit as far as it will go another possibility emerges.

[Dave45]

This is the reasoning behind the circuit.
Edited text in the image.

[Matthew Jones]

Hey Matt good to hear from ya.
Is this what you meant.

No after the second transistor. SO Positive source, NPN, Coil, NPN, Resistor, Source ground.

Matt

[Dave45]

We still want to collect pos and neg bemf.
Anything you can do on the pos rail can be done on the neg rail.

[BroMikey]

Yes I would like to thank you also Matthew for stepping in when needed.

@Dave I can't always visualize the switch in place of the transistor because I need more practice doing that so i have included the Mod you made and put the resistor where I think Matthew said to put it.

Of course the notation about switch timing is awesome and that is a powerful thought.

So I am doing my best guess like this because I am use to looking at my circuit more than any other. I hope to catch up some day here it is



As you commented Dave that this resistor was added to my circuit diagram.

Thanks so much gentlemen this is one change I can wrap my head around.

Mikey

[Dave45]

Hey Matt good to hear from ya.
Is this what you meant.

[Matthew Jones]

Better time that right. Make sure to turn the first NPN on First the second on second then shut the second one off then the first one. Or you'll get nothing. The resistor in the front will only cost you. Use the resistor after the second transistor. ".1 ohms" stall the current and only fills the inductor. Other wise you just make a bunch of heat.

Matt

[Dave45]

Drawing from the ambient and not the power supply.