Open discussion for projects on this forum.

[Matthew Jones]

Hi Matt, You made an assumption. Just because a setup doesn't harness extra
energy doesn't mean it doesn't work for me.

No, I didn't assume anything. You have never even explored anything that might even hint free energy. So either you came here looking and it didn't work for you, or you came here trying to discourage others from looking with your critiques of peoples work. But you have no background or validity to even look at the work.
Thats not an assumption..

Reminds me of that clown SeaMonkey. But after looking around I see where the parallels come from. He finally found a friend. LOL

And now I know how it is with you, I realize that maybe helping you with something so you can see first hand proof, would probably just be waste of my time. I regret even waisting the time thinking about it.

Cheers
Matt

[Farmhand]

Opie & Anthony: Stan Meyer's Water Car - YouTubeRotoverter Technology was OU before ORBO one.
All in all if an inventor develops a replicable efficient system the very last place to post full construction details would be in the wolfs den!
Again Its very much a case of personal conjecture but I rather think the world political power and financial systems follow the patterns pretty much laid out in the following quite aged clips and films
The Energy Non-Crisis
Confessions of an Economic Hit Man - YouTube
EndGame HQ full length version - YouTubeProf. Konstantin Meyl the New Tesla on Vimeo

Duncan I'm going to be frank with you, I don't care what catagory you put me
into. Why would I ? I consider you to be a distractor from the truth so what.
For what it is worth you are wrong about me, and I don't take kindly to the
accusations. But you are entitled to your opinion even if you are wrong.

Meyl is full of it. I see no extra energy from his setup, he just claims it, he
doesn't show it, I don't believe him. I can already do similar things as Meyl
can and at higher power levels. I agree with Eric on that, throw Meyls toys in
the rubbish and do study and build your own resonant transformers. I
recommend you buy the kit and show the C.O.P. over 1 with proper
measurements if it is so convincing to you. The onus of proof is on the
claimants. Otherwise anyone can say anything.

Anyway I don't see why it is so important that I should believe things without
sufficient evidence. I'm not interested in what you say of others work, show it
yourself if you say it is possible.

People have opinions, fair enough, so do I. I never said I don't believe extra
energy can be harvested, it can, it's just that many of the claims have no
merit.

If people have the wind taken from their sails by what I say then the sails
were probably full of hot air blown by a guru.

As far as I'm concerned you have repeatedly accused me of being a paid
disinformant in public, which is bordering on Libel, I can prove I am not a paid
disinformant if I want, but I don't see why I should. I think your just trying to
wind me up, and it won't work.

No one should feel as though they need to satisfy me, if they really have "OU"
or whatever then what I say couldn't possibly make them not have "OU".

It seems like you want censorship. No adverse opinions allowed ? Only posts
following the party line are acceptable.

I don't share my experiments for comments, I do it because I think others might
see something interesting to them. Why am I posting on the boards ? Because
I'm interested in free energy and the truth. It wouldn't be prudent to ignore all
claims of extra energy, if I did I might miss the real thing if it comes along.

Anyway your entitled to your opinions. As am I.

I'm aware of all the conspiracy angles. As far as I can see no free energy will
make a lick of difference while the central banks run the governments. The
real problem is with the lack of understanding by the general public of the
corrupt monetary system. People complain of the suppression but it is our
tax dollars that help fund it.

And yet all the dodgy claims have not made the public aware of free energy.
But they are not suppressed. What is the good of them ? A dodgy claim is
about as good as a false one, it has the same effect, it gives the free energy
a bad name. In my opinion all the dodgy claims are a form of suppression in
themselves. So I feel they should be questioned by us for our own good.

Cheers

P.S. Calculations of C.O.P. over 1 are useless, we cannot power a light globe
with a calculation. Proof is in doing it, not in calculating what "should" happen if
nothing was "overlooked". Why calculate when we can measure and have no
doubt ?

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[Duncan]

TV-part I - YouTubeFluorescent Lights under High Voltage Power Lines! - YouTube

[dR-Green]

I never said there's no usable power. I've watched every Meyl video that was available at the time, I haven't seen any proof of COP>1000/efficiency 1000% or whatever he says. All the university access to test equipment and we see nothing. If it's 1000% efficiency then it should be pointed out that Tesla himself said it will never be possible to go beyond 100% efficiency.

If not subscribing to the dogmatic gospel of the gurus makes me a nay sayer then so be it. But I assume you're unaware of some of the projects I've worked on so I'm afraid it doesn't wash. The irony is that more often than not I've seen more with my own eyes relating to the subject than the people who insist on playing the "doubter" card as a defence, they've only seen it through youtube. I've been the transmission line, a little bit closer to the action than the youtube enthusiast. I've seen and done plenty of supposedly impossible things, much to the dismay of knowledgeable people who observed disapprovingly and in shock. On one occasion the nearest electronics engineer looked disgusted as I held one pole of a coil in my left hand and a 75 watt fluorescent tube lit up in my right hand. Guess what. I still question Meyl. Just because he wears a nice suit and is one of the rare few who have lengthy lectures on youtube where we can listen to what we want to hear said about Tesla, doesn't make him right. That's what makes it all the more dangerous. The audience is enthusiastic and receptive to the point that they'll believe any old crap as long as it keeps coming, and call anyone who questions it a doubter. And so the disinfo conspiracy begins, or continues. Operation distract from Tesla's real work at all costs. That seems to be the game that 99% of Tesla enthusiasts are playing.

Also, user T-rex who I quoted above = Eric Dollard. He will be the first to tell you to throw the Meyl toys in the trash.

Thanks for the video anyway, it will make some good viewing tonight But his claims still require proof.

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Hi Duncan

Hi Duncan

And I hope you are well too. I for one am as always fighting the "system", it wants to burry me, but I keep fighting on, albeit in a quiet form at the moment.

I hope in the very very near future to drop the preverbial **** on the system, I have various projects to publish from very easy molecular manipulation to the more complicated, the latter being industrial and the former for the home user. I have taken old reaction methods and brought them into the 21st century with the use of very low energy, and by doing so creates the COP>1 situation.

As you know I worked heavily in RF, this now has been developed into what you might call a land line reaction, Dr. Puharich being one of the first and copied by Meyer.

It is interesting that you bring up standing wave ratio's, I have been able to recycle and reinsert the rebound to create a multiplier to my advantage. This would normally in the science of yesterday be a very dirty system, WELL NOT IF IT IS CONTROLLED, it turns out to be OMO white

I do not in anyway believe I am the first to do something like this, but I think the first to put it in a form that anybody with a little electronic and engineering background could do.

Confusion, like what some like to do in these forums, is what I use to break molecules, and when confused it is easy to HIT THEM OVER THE HEAD and break that head open.

I like the Meyl interview, thanks for posting it as I had not seen it. I hope you are keeping the fox's away from your back yard!!!!

Mike

[Duncan]

http://panacea-bocaf.org/files/Advanced%20RV%20Research%20and%20development.pdf

http://panacea-bocaf.org/files/RE-OU-v6_1.pdf

[dR-Green]

if you direct your phenomenal interlect into actually finding the start button

Thank you for the analysis. I use Firefox addons to block crap. I'm sure the play button will appear when I allow some through.

[dR-Green]

scalar

representable by position on a scale or line; having only magnitude: a scalar variable.
quantity, such as time or temperature, that has magnitude but not direction
maths an element of a field associated with a vector space
having magnitude but not direction

Scalar | Define Scalar at Dictionary.com

You can't have a left-right. It's either a left or it's a right. A left-right is a non-thing, a meaningless self-contradicting word. Just like scalar-wave.

[Duncan]

@ All

With all systems existing and in the future with a COP>1 are systems that use change. Change is one form of energy to another, be it electrical, chemical, mechanical, magnetic, ambient etc.

The one I like the most is chemical and that is why most of my time is devoted to this. If you want a system with COP>1, then look at this change of state, in nature "plants" have a COP>1 and it is through chemical change. Example of a huge COP are explosives.

Mike

[Michael John Nunnerley]

COP>1 what systems can and what systems can't

@ All

With all systems existing and in the future with a COP>1 are systems that use change. Change is one form of energy to another, be it electrical, chemical, mechanical, magnetic, ambient etc.

The one I like the most is chemical and that is why most of my time is devoted to this. If you want a system with COP>1, then look at this change of state, in nature "plants" have a COP>1 and it is through chemical change. Example of a huge COP are explosives.

Mike

[Duncan]

I looked and only saw an image, I read the text. The COP claims have been made long ago, and still there is no proof of anything.

If you consider asking for proof to be a dud comment then I'll say again, I'll sell you some COP>1000 coils and systems if you like. No problem.

[dR-Green]

On so-called scalar waves

[dR-Green]

It would seem you comment whilst not watching the interview ... Meyl states "He takes no profit from these kits" as a Prof in the pay of the government he would never dare to make such a statement in the name of major universites were it not true .... please watch the clip before making abstract uninformed worthless comments! almost as dud as farmhands patter ... at least he watches or reads the presented info

I looked and only saw an image, I read the text. The COP claims have been made long ago, and still there is no proof of anything.

If you consider asking for proof to be a dud comment then I'll say again, I'll sell you some COP>1000 coils and systems if you like. No problem.

[Duncan]

I'm sorry but that's a lot of poppycock. Claims with no proof at all.



Except for Meyl it seems, who gets to churn them out through universities

[edit] Although, Meyl hasn't demonstrated anything so I suppose he's safe. In that case, I'll sell you some COP>1000 coils if you like

It would seem you comment whilst not watching the interview ... Meyl states "He takes no profit from these kits" as a Prof in the pay of the government he would never dare to make such a statement in the name of major universites were it not true .... please watch the clip before making abstract uninformed worthless comments! almost as dud as farmhands patter ... at least he watches or reads the presented info

[dR-Green]

I'm sorry but that's a lot of poppycock. Claims with no proof at all.

It is noted and well known Farmhand that folks who develop and demonstrate very efficient COP>1
systems certainly can't look forward to a profitable future

Except for Meyl it seems, who gets to churn them out through universities

[edit] Although, Meyl hasn't demonstrated anything so I suppose he's safe. In that case, I'll sell you some COP>1000 coils if you like