Open discussion for projects on this forum.

[citfta]

HA, HA, HA,

That's a good one. Sorry wrong answer. No relation to the Figuera device at all.

[bistander]

Easy

Easy one. Part G.

bi

[citfta]

Here is a scope shot of the project I am working on. Can you guess how I am producing that signal?

[mikrovolt]

I often have trouble with terminology that I don't use regularly. When I use calculators
online I need to review the variables by using approximate values testing something known such as an example problem first because it is easy to confuse them.
let Wh = 2.16 and let V = 1.2 plug into web page
Watt-hours (Wh) to mAh conversion calculator

Magnetic and electric fields like to travel together in waves. The electrostatic field wave closely resembles aether in a mirror. It requires non-euclidian math because of this paradox Universities rarely explain. If only the vectors did not cross at the poles. If you rotate the vectors away from the pole they can be parallel.


This bicycle wheel demonstration can build strong imagery for the concept. Chances are We also get this demo confused or forget. same thing.
It is just keep on reviewing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty9QSiVC2g0

[BroMikey]

Apology accepted. I also apologize for my comments that I should have kept to myself. I broke my own rules about this thread. I am sorry.

Respectfully,
Carroll

Well I have a way of bringing out your responses that sometimes get
you out of character. I don't know why I am the way I am but one thing
I will tell you, it won't happen again with you.

Detroit has made me a tough nut that frankly I am working on.

I hear that you are advancing quite a bit yourself on these projects in
the back ground. I look forward to anything that might help me do that
project of acceleration under load. Then Turion-Man-Dave digs up the
old Tesla coil patent builds for his new coil build and with all of the
previous information plus the new I am struggling to keep it all in view.

Please be advised I have high hopes for us both in my private hours
of thought. I am going back to work on coil spools.

[citfta]

Apology accepted. I also apologize for my comments that I should have kept to myself. I broke my own rules about this thread. I am sorry.

Respectfully,
Carroll

[BroMikey]

I was hoping that bistander and he would be able to have a discussion
that would help Dave clear up some of his misuse of terms. So I did not
enter into that discussion. It seemed like that was starting off in the
right direction until it was interrupted by BM and his useless blabber.


Respectfully,
Carroll

I am sorry Carroll

I realize now more than ever that the written letter can so easily
be misunderstood. I hope the young men who are advanced in these
other subjects can further the work of technical expressions.

I am glad to know you and Dave are good friends, that says a lot.

[bistander]

Ok

Turion,

I have no problem with that. Thanks for listening to me. Good luck.

Regards,

bi

[citfta]

As Dave has said we have known each other for a very long time. We communicate regularly by email and sometimes by Skype. I realized a long time ago that Dave was not trained in electronics or electrical theory but he has applied himself diligently to learning all he can. He has an amazing natural ability for innovation. He and Matt have come up with ideas that have blown me away. I keep in mind when working with Dave that he may not always use the right terms but I can usually figure out what he means.

I was hoping that bistander and he would be able to have a discussion that would help Dave clear up some of his misuse of terms. So I did not enter into that discussion. It seemed like that was starting off in the right direction until it was interrupted by BM and his useless blabber.

I do believe that Dave has exactly what he has claimed in the basic free energy thread. I know some things about what he is doing that I cannot share yet until Dave says so. My role in working with Dave has usually been to help solve electronic problems or explain to Dave why I think something will or will not work.

I have found Dave to be one of the most persistent people I have ever met. He just does not give up. He will stay at his bench for hours and hours until he finds a solution to whatever problem he is working on.

Respectfully,
Carroll

[BroMikey]

Shame on you both. How dare you sit in judgement of Turion and act
like he is a fool, unable to spell or use terms right and is unable to
measure.

Citfa, you really have scraped the bottom. You call this
an intellectual thread?

As usual you run your big mouth without getting any of the facts straight. I did not mention your name until AFTER you butted into a discussion that clearly was NOT directed at you. As bi has already said he came over here to have a discussion without interfering with YOUR thread. But you didn't have the same respect for him. So I called you out on it. It is obvious you can't carry on an intelligent discussion about technical matters but do you have to keep attacking those that actually want to have an intelligent discussion?

So I'll say it again. If you don't want anyone talking about you then don't butt into others people's discussions and start putting them down for trying to have an intelligent discussion.

Carroll

Yes, I saw that you were relating your interpretation of Eric's theories. I am aware of his unorthodox approach. Let's just say I don't agree with him.

The primary reason for my response to your post was to make clear to Turion that some of your statements based on Eric's teachings were contrary to convention. And if he (Turion) was indeed using an unconventional definition of energy, he needs to express that as he begins to relate his work in the field of energy to others. I saw this as a big hindrance when he was attempting to explain his system on that other forum. Members there saw someone using incorrect units for energy and therefore would not take his conclusions about energy in his system seriously. Frankly, neither do I. How can someone claim a free energy machine when they don't even know proper energy units?

If Turion would learn proper use of power and energy terminology, perhaps he could make some sensible measurements which others could understand and replicate so they (and he) could determine the true value of his efforts. All I've seen so far from him are subjective stories about batteries lasting longer. I can not recall seeing measured power in vs power out numbers from him in the couple years I've been watching. I'd like to help Turion. But I suspect he's no longer interested.

On the other hand, if you want to work with him and teach him how to do a quantitative analysis using Eric's arithmetic, please do. I'd love to see it.

Regards,

bi

[ricards]

If Turion would learn proper use of power and energy terminology, perhaps he could make some sensible measurements which others could understand and replicate so they (and he) could determine the true value of his efforts. All I've seen so far from him are subjective stories about batteries lasting longer. I can not recall seeing measured power in vs power out numbers from him in the couple years I've been watching. I'd like to help Turion. But I suspect he's no longer interested.

On the other hand, if you want to work with him and teach him how to do a quantitative analysis using Eric's arithmetic, please do. I'd love to see it.

Regards,

bi

I wouldn't dare! haha, I haven't fully grasp with eric's theories.. a lot of things make sense, but when on topic of "Moving around in time" I still don't understand nor agree which is also why I compare things with the "conventional" I do so by google and wikipedia, going back and forth It's hard but I only need to pay my time with it.

I also have been watching Turion on his project and claims. but motors, generators and batteries are out of my interest. or should I say forced it out of my interest as the project is somewhat "expensive" for what you get out of it, I'm a practical man.

also I have my own project.

[bistander]

Eric

Its been a good day to me as well.. but can't sleep wants to study..

I did state my source Eric Dollard's work, maybe your not familiar with his work?..
I actually did not learn the "Classical" or "Standard" meaning in University.. but I am learning little by little.. everything so far in studying "Dielectricity" make sense.. I'm not even sure that Exist in "Classical".

Glad to encounter a blunt person. (never really bump into one)

Yes, I saw that you were relating your interpretation of Eric's theories. I am aware of his unorthodox approach. Let's just say I don't agree with him.

The primary reason for my response to your post was to make clear to Turion that some of your statements based on Eric's teachings were contrary to convention. And if he (Turion) was indeed using an unconventional definition of energy, he needs to express that as he begins to relate his work in the field of energy to others. I saw this as a big hindrance when he was attempting to explain his system on that other forum. Members there saw someone using incorrect units for energy and therefore would not take his conclusions about energy in his system seriously. Frankly, neither do I. How can someone claim a free energy machine when they don't even know proper energy units?

If Turion would learn proper use of power and energy terminology, perhaps he could make some sensible measurements which others could understand and replicate so they (and he) could determine the true value of his efforts. All I've seen so far from him are subjective stories about batteries lasting longer. I can not recall seeing measured power in vs power out numbers from him in the couple years I've been watching. I'd like to help Turion. But I suspect he's no longer interested.

On the other hand, if you want to work with him and teach him how to do a quantitative analysis using Eric's arithmetic, please do. I'd love to see it.

Regards,

bi

[citfta]

When you keep calling my name I may or may not respond whether
you agree with the answer or not on your so called "OPEN DISCUSSION"

Yeah right, as long as you agree it is open. I will respect your wishes
and i hope you and your buddies will stop putting my name out there
as some form of validation of how I missed it.

This is your thread so try to keep my name out of it so I don't have
to respond. I don't want to be here other than to answer your claims
against me, along with you pal's.

Also don't belittle others who are friends of mine like people who were
forwarded by John Bedini as leaders. You and your thread attitude of
so called polished jargon are the tools that were used for decades
against all great inventors.

Anyone using this approach to attack, belittle and smear will be
subject to "OPEN DISCUSSION" and corrected in one form or another.

You may have your CLOSED MINDED DISCUSSION thread as long as
you obey the rules.

As usual you run your big mouth without getting any of the facts straight. I did not mention your name until AFTER you butted into a discussion that clearly was NOT directed at you. As bi has already said he came over here to have a discussion without interfering with YOUR thread. But you didn't have the same respect for him. So I called you out on it. It is obvious you can't carry on an intelligent discussion about technical matters but do you have to keep attacking those that actually want to have an intelligent discussion?

So I'll say it again. If you don't want anyone talking about you then don't butt into others people's discussions and start putting them down for trying to have an intelligent discussion.

Carroll

[bistander]

Hogwash

When you keep calling my name I may or may not respond whether
you agree with the answer or not on your so called "OPEN DISCUSSION"
...

All I did was mention the thread where Turion posted something I thought I might be able to help with. I was talking to Turion.

Hello Turion,

... I am reluctant to post on a thread started by BM, so I hope you find your way here...

I certainly did not call your name. In fact I thought I made it clear I wanted no interaction with you. However you post up lies and demeaning statements about me. Please leave me alone. I've said that before.

bi

[BroMikey]

BM,

The main person who has added more confusion ... is YOU.

You have constantly posted videos of faked devices .........

You have absolutely no discernment ability whatsoever.

You will believe any YouTube video ...........

bistander and I have both spent many many hours trying to help people ...

.........your claims against bistander .............. are clearly not wanted

I did not see where you were invited to the discussion.

By the way how is your buddy Gerard doing now days?


......go back to your thread and leave this one alone.

When you keep calling my name I may or may not respond whether
you agree with the answer or not on your so called "OPEN DISCUSSION"

Yeah right, as long as you agree it is open. I will respect your wishes
and i hope you and your buddies will stop putting my name out there
as some form of validation of how I missed it.

This is your thread so try to keep my name out of it so I don't have
to respond. I don't want to be here other than to answer your claims
against me, along with you pal's.

Also don't belittle others who are friends of mine like people who were
forwarded by John Bedini as leaders. You and your thread attitude of
so called polished jargon are the tools that were used for decades
against all great inventors.

Anyone using this approach to attack, belittle and smear will be
subject to "OPEN DISCUSSION" and corrected in one form or another.

You may have your CLOSED MINDED DISCUSSION thread as long as
you obey the rules.