Use for the Tesla Switch

[Matthew Jones]

Thanks Matt. I do have a small question about one item in the list you gave to Katie, just want to make sure.

"2 Hongfa HFS33, D-50 D200M, 50 volt 80 amp Solid state relay."

Do you mean HFS33, D-50 D80M instead of the D200M? I got a little confused by reading the data sheet. 50v 80amp should be D-50 D80M, right? Is it D200M a typo? Just want to buy the right ones.

Thanks,
Peter

Ya your right. I was probably in a hurry and confused some numbers.

Matt

[Guruji]

If that ain't simple enough I am truely sorry for ya.



I think your right, I'll change the drawing.

Thanks for noticing.

@Turion H11D1 like gyula said. If you have to order them you might just go with the relay version. Dirt simple ya know.

Matt

Hi Matt I was not talking sarcastically but that chip to programm it I don't have experience on those

[sureking]

No. Just wire them in series and use them like they were a 12 volt battery.

matt

Thanks Matt. I do have a small question about one item in the list you gave to Katie, just want to make sure.

"2 Hongfa HFS33, D-50 D200M, 50 volt 80 amp Solid state relay."

Do you mean HFS33, D-50 D80M instead of the D200M? I got a little confused by reading the data sheet. 50v 80amp should be D-50 D80M, right? Is it D200M a typo? Just want to buy the right ones.

Thanks,
Peter

[Matthew Jones]

Hi, SkyWatcher! ... And I think the guy who wants simpler circuit was just joking, b/c it can't be more simple.....
Alex

I guess I missed that, I thought he was being serious. LOL

[hiops]

Hi folks, Hi matt, thanks for sharing your information.
From what i read, you are saying the small T. switch does not swap batteries back and forth on the fly, instead we have to manually swap the battery banks.

If this is the case and as you say, the battery banks reach an equilibrium and just stay there when swapping and running a load when tuned properly.
If this is the case, then I know a much simpler circuit that will do this also, at this thread post - http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post153299



peace love light
tyson

Hi, SkyWatcher! I've read this thread(i mean: Bedini solid state oscillator and Tesla switch combination) a few times before, and I have to say, that the circuit is not simpler, it's the same. And I think the guy who wants simpler circuit was just joking, b/c it can't be more simple. And the main question is how Nilrehob schematic makes a full rotation, I don't see any rotation there, maybe you could explain. At least Matt's schematic rotates two batteries and can be developed to full rotation.
Alex

[Matthew Jones]

Hi matt, ok, thanks for making it more clear.
Though I know you're busy making your presentations of this and such, is it possible for you or someone to explain how it is different so that I and others may have a better vision of what and how your circuit is supposed to function, compared to this and others.
It seems you're saying the circuit I posted will function similar, though with lower output.
Forgive my intrusion with my circuit post, though I saw someone wanted a simpler circuit and I thought it fit the bill, thanks.
peace love light
tyson

Well build my mine Sky then you can see for yourself and answer your own question. And in the future if you wanna address someones question then go ahead and do it.
The biggest difference is the control you have. Not all loads run well on a specific frequency. Bulbs for instance like 150 hz, they are just more efficient at that level, but motors like somewhere around 40-100 hz. They just do better. And thats just under 5 amps, it all changes at higher currents
To take control of Hobs oscillator you have change part. I do not... I just change a number in a line of code.
That should obvious from the beginning. So whats easier?

I know what people are going through to build this simple little thing, I am not sure the Hob's oscillator variant is any easier in the long run.

Thats all I am going to say about it. The "How To" will be done soon. Feel free to use it or not, I don't care.

Matt

[Turion]

Matt,
I wanted to order the parts for all three of the small circuits so I could run them side by side, same basic batteries, same load, etc. and see the differences. I am all about the learning of the whys and wherefores of this stuff. So spending a little extra or putting a little time into it is definitely not an issue for me.

David Bowling

[SkyWatcher]

Hi matt, ok, thanks for making it more clear.
Though I know you're busy making your presentations of this and such, is it possible for you or someone to explain how it is different so that I and others may have a better vision of what and how your circuit is supposed to function, compared to this and others.
It seems you're saying the circuit I posted will function similar, though with lower output.
Forgive my intrusion with my circuit post, though I saw someone wanted a simpler circuit and I thought it fit the bill, thanks.
peace love light
tyson

[Matthew Jones]

Hi folks, Hi matt, thanks for sharing your information.
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peace love light
tyson

Its not the same thing Sky....although it is a neat little circuit, it doesn't really have that much power output and can't be scaled well. Where as mine can. If you try both of them you will see the difference in both power output and cost.

I am trying to lay a foundation for a circuit that does have the capability for swapping out batteries and extremely long term runtime.

But without the ability to even build the basics most people would be lost when it came to the more complex circuit.

Although some people may appreciate it the suggestion that this is the same thing or variant of is probably out of place. Apples and Oranges.

Matt

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi matt, thanks for sharing your information.
From what i read, you are saying the small T. switch does not swap batteries back and forth on the fly, instead we have to manually swap the battery banks.

If this is the case and as you say, the battery banks reach an equilibrium and just stay there when swapping and running a load when tuned properly.
If this is the case, then I know a much simpler circuit that will do this also, at this thread post - http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post153299



peace love light
tyson

[Matthew Jones]

I think I do have 8 of those golf car batteries. Wiring them in series should be the way. Does this influence the choice of other components in the shopping list?

No. Just wire them in series and use them like they were a 12 volt battery.

matt

[sureking]

No you can use them. If your going to wind a transformer that puts out 12 volt instead of 6v I can give you instructions as to how to step up the voltage so you can run 12 volt loads. It may not be as efficient though I am not sure I have not tried to step up voltage yet.

If you have 8 golf cart batteries you can wire them in series also.

Thanks for posting your questions.
Matt

I think I do have 8 of those golf car batteries. Wiring them in series should be the way. Does this influence the choice of other components in the shopping list?

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

I just want to check before I replicate the sziklai pair. Shouldn't the emitter of the pnptransistor be connected to the positive of the lower battery in the diagram in order to bias the npn transistor?

Guy's here is an illustration of the Sziklai pair setup. You should tune the resistor for the color of LED you are using.

Cheers

Jeff

[Matthew Jones]

Is there a more simple tesla switch that work too?
Thanks

If that ain't simple enough I am truely sorry for ya.

I just want to check before I replicate the sziklai pair. Shouldn't the emitter of the pnptransistor be connected to the positive of the lower battery in the diagram in order to bias the npn transistor?

I think your right, I'll change the drawing.

Thanks for noticing.

@Turion H11D1 like gyula said. If you have to order them you might just go with the relay version. Dirt simple ya know.

Matt

[gyula]

Matt,
I ran a Googke search for the n11d1 you have as a component on the Sziklai pair diagram, but can't seem to find it anywhere. Can you tell me what it is or where I can find it? Maybe I'm reading the schematic incorrectly.
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Hi David,

It is h11d1 (not n11d1) and here is a data sheet:

http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/datasheet/vishay/83611.pdf

Surely the most component sellers have it like digikey etc

http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=160-1328-5-ND

Gyula