Barbosa and Leal Devices - Info and Replication Details

[clarence]

Not yet!

Clarence,
Just when I'm ready to sit on the fence and talk to the cows, you show me something more to study and try.


If I interpreted this correctly; there is a "B" coil wrapped around the green wire ground that loops around the loop? The illustration isn't very clear but, that's what I'm seeing so far.

Have you tried this or anything like this yet? My theory on transformers isn't that high but I get the gist of it.

My chin hurts from all he thinking and scratching,
Very interesting.
wantomake

Wantomake,

No I have not yet ventured into this last (to me anyway) type of research on the loop thing.
Spent the day doing trials on all the other connections ,etc. Did this to eliminate having to backtrack while working on the loop.
Took the loop completely down to the 660 turn toroid and will go from there.

Going to D-I-L's patio now to have a big cup.
Back after it in morning. will read and think over quite a bit on the electron moving in the loop PDF.
One thing that did catch my attention was the statement about the switch
being turned on with the INPUT CURRENT being kept steady that this should enable an endless supply of energy.
The coil with the switch APPEARS to be a DC Powered circuit. It would seem that way because of the battery type cell symbols shown in the drawing.
The cell symbols could also mean a AC power supply using series diodes
to produce a fairly constant DIRECTIONAL DC voltage that would avoid any alternating current issues. I believe the big HINT is to avoid the changing back and forth of the magnetic fields between the two coil faces.

All of this will keep us occupied for a good while now.

Gone to the patio to get a cup!

Later J .

Clarence

[wantomake]

Chin scratching indeed

Wantomake,

This is some more stored info from my files.
Concerns some ideas about the loop so I hope it comes through.

EDIT: WHEN YOU CLICK ON THE FILE LOOK AT THE BOTTOM LEFT OF SCREEN
AND YOU WILL SEE THE PDF FILE SHOW UP! CLICK ON IT
AFTER VIEWING - LOOK AT THE TOP LEFT OF SCREEN AND CLICK ON THE PDF
THING THERE AND YOU WILL BE RETURNED TO THE FORUM PAGE!


Clarence

Clarence,
Just when I'm ready to sit on the fence and talk to the cows, you show me something more to study and try.


If I interpreted this correctly; there is a "B" coil wrapped around the green wire ground that loops around the loop? The illustration isn't very clear but, that's what I'm seeing so far.

Have you tried this or anything like this yet? My theory on transformers isn't that high but I get the gist of it.

My chin hurts from all the thinking and scratching,
Very interesting.
wantomake

[clarence]

Loop

Clarence,
You could start a captor company with all the captor #4 #6(?) #1 wire around the shop.
I think the #1 at present is 3 meters or 10 feet (American) with 4 and half to five turns.
Not to sound like been there done that, but I think my over curious brain tried to connect to the unlooped loop.

I was in a good habit of taking and drawing notes so as to not repeat experiments. But I forget what I've tried.


Hello ole coffee,
wantomake

Wantomake,

This is some more stored info from my files.
Concerns some ideas about the loop so I hope it comes through.

EDIT: WHEN YOU CLICK ON THE FILE LOOK AT THE BOTTOM LEFT OF SCREEN
AND YOU WILL SEE THE PDF FILE SHOW UP! CLICK ON IT
AFTER VIEWING - LOOK AT THE TOP LEFT OF SCREEN AND CLICK ON THE PDF
THING THERE AND YOU WILL BE RETURNED TO THE FORUM PAGE!


Clarence

[wantomake]

Captors

Wantomake,

In the next few days I plan on making a SECOND Captor coil with my fresh roll
of #6 AWG wire (came in from Pacer Group yesterday).
The present captor ( mine ) coil Is 7 turns. This second one will be three turns
with one passing thru the Toroid center same as the #1.0 does!

HOWEVER


I will NOT LOOP IT! I will leave both ends open - one to the load terminal where you saw the green arrow- still haven't figured out what to do the other
end but I'll work it out!
EDIT: This way there will be NO direct connection to the RED WIRE!

Later J,

Clarence

Clarence,
You could start a captor company with all the captor #4 #6(?) #1 wire around the shop.
I think the #1 at present is 3 meters or 10 feet (American) with 4 and half to five turns.
Not to sound like been there done that, but I think my over curious brain tried to connect to the unlooped loop.

I was in a good habit of taking and drawing notes so as to not repeat experiments. But I forget what I've tried.


Hello ole coffee,
wantomake

[wantomake]

VCL mystery solved

Clarence,
Oh ok. That explains it then.

So we are back to a simple looping of the green ground wire around the loop. Nothing left for me but trying the DC at the end of the red wire with a diode.

@All,
With 15 to 20 people at one time watching this, not one person has any ideas?
Wow unbelievable....

Is that my hot cup of friendship sitting there....yes it is.

wantomake and coffee

[clarence]

Clarity

Clarence,
Ok, brief. I talked to fer123 who said Ariovaldo told him there were two "VCL slim clamper" on the loop. I'm thinking these were used to extract the ground energy. But do you see them in the pictures Ariovaldo posted? No. Here is the link to look at the VCL if you want to:

https://www.eletrorede.com.br/para-r...slim-275v.html.
It's in Portuguese or something cause I tried to chat with the company. Lost in translation big time. I googled "VCL slim clamper" and got nothing at all. But VCL is only sold in Brazil. Go figure.

Something must be attached to the loop to produce "FREE Energy". Where can the excess power come from if not from the aether or the Earth.

So back to basic patent,
wantomake

Wantomake,

While digging through my many files doing present research I came across this Pic of B&L from their test files.
Gives a little more Clarity than words.

Clarence

[clarence]

Two rings equals two captors ????

Clarence,
What red wire?
http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...s-dsc00507-jpg

wantomake

Wantomake,

In the next few days I plan on making a SECOND Captor coil with my fresh roll
of #6 AWG wire (came in from Pacer Group yesterday).
The present captor ( mine ) coil Is 7 turns. This second one will be three turns
with one passing thru the Toroid center same as the #1.0 does!

HOWEVER


I will NOT LOOP IT! I will leave both ends open - one to the load terminal where you saw the green arrow- still haven't figured out what to do the other
end but I'll work it out!
EDIT: This way there will be NO direct connection to the RED WIRE!

Later J,

Clarence

[wantomake]

Oh !!!!

Wantomake,

Look at the green arrow.
As long as that wire goes STRAIGHT to the LOAD terminal it's a fool the meter crap.

It needs to come from somewhere ELSE.

Clarence

Clarence,
That schematic and that red wire.

Ok. Got it.

wantomake

[clarence]

Green arrow

Clarence,
What red wire?
http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...s-dsc00507-jpg

wantomake

Wantomake,

Look at the green arrow.
As long as that wire goes STRAIGHT to the LOAD terminal it's a fool the meter crap.

It needs to come from somewhere ELSE.

Clarence

[wantomake]

Red wire?

Wantomake,

I agree with you and despise the fool the meter crap!

As I see it that red wire going to the load terminal ( AND coming from the same HOT input as the toroid ) is the culprit. A hot lead to the load terminal
from somewhere else HAS to be found.

What has interested me is the patent figure of the two ring coils facing each
other. The one marked B I assume to be the Captor loop. The other one shows to be activated by a switch. The queer part is the power input to it
appears to be DC? Maybe AC with a diode inline? In the brief time I had this Morning I took one of my heavy duty VMI 3 amp uf diodes and placed it inline
at the end of that red wire before the strip and fired the system up.

To my supprise a 100 watt cfl lit without any problems? I checked the voltage and it was 62 + volts DC. The amps usage was less and so was the
voltage (Bout half of normal) ?
Impressed ,I pushed on and plugged a 250 watt red heat lamp in - same thing - half voltage and half amps?
Checked the heat on the Diode - was warm but not burning hot.
Am going to do a lot more trials and see what happens.

Later J,

Clarence

Clarence,
What red wire?
http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...s-dsc00507-jpg

wantomake

[clarence]

Round about edit

Wantomake,

I agree with you and despise the fool the meter crap!

As I see it that red wire going to the load terminal ( AND coming from the same HOT input as the toroid ) is the culprit. A hot lead to the load terminal
from somewhere else HAS to be found.

What has interested me is the patent figure of the two ring coils facing each
other. The one marked B I assume to be the Captor loop. The other one shows to be activated by a switch. The queer part is the power input to it
appears to be DC? Maybe AC with a diode inline? In the brief time I had this Morning I took one of my heavy duty VMI 3 amp uf diodes and placed it inline
at the end of that red wire before the strip and fired the system up.

To my supprise a 100 watt cfl lit without any problems? I checked the voltage and it was 62 + volts DC. The amps usage was less and so was the
voltage (Bout half of normal) ?
Impressed ,I pushed on and plugged a 250 watt red heat lamp in - same thing - half voltage and half amps?
Checked the heat on the Diode - was warm but not burning hot.
Am going to do a lot more trials and see what happens.

Later J,

Clarence

This is the ring figure I was talking about.

Clarence

[clarence]

Roger on all

Clarence,
Sorry our internet is down this am for repairs.

I have no idea when I look at that picture of the captor. To try and replicate from that mess is a bad start I'm sure. But Ariovaldo had his heart in right place, but maybe just didn't finish the investigation. He may have just guessed at that circuit he posted.

I understand about the GDT being a "fuse" in this circuit. After finishing this third setup and finding it still is just a "meter fooling setup" , so what do I see?
I see anger sometimes. How can I keep trying to just "fool the meter".

I need no sympathy or apology, it's just that I'm angry at myself. I need more coffee and clear thinking.

I see me as that mess of a picture,
wantomake

Wantomake,

I agree with you and despise the fool the meter crap!

As I see it that red wire going to the load terminal ( AND coming from the same HOT input as the toroid ) is the culprit. A hot lead to the load terminal
from somewhere else HAS to be found.

What has interested me is the patent figure of the two ring coils facing each
other. The one marked B I assume to be the Captor loop. The other one shows to be activated by a switch. The queer part is the power input to it
appears to be DC? Maybe AC with a diode inline? In the brief time I had this Morning I took one of my heavy duty VMI 3 amp uf diodes and placed it inline
at the end of that red wire before the strip and fired the system up.

To my supprise a 100 watt cfl lit without any problems? I checked the voltage and it was 62 + volts DC. The amps usage was less and so was the
voltage (Bout half of normal) ?
Impressed ,I pushed on and plugged a 250 watt red heat lamp in - same thing - half voltage and half amps?
Checked the heat on the Diode - was warm but not burning hot.
Am going to do a lot more trials and see what happens.

Later J,

Clarence

[wantomake]

Mess for sure.

Wantomake,

This is where I am looking at present- The Captor.

Look at these attachments and see if you can find anything that comes to mind.
All of this mangled mess is what A said was still being investigated.

Later,

Clarence

Clarence,
Sorry our internet is down this am for repairs.

I have no idea when I look at that picture of the captor. To try and replicate from that mess is a bad start I'm sure. But Ariovaldo had his heart in right place, but maybe just didn't finish the investigation. He may have just guessed at that circuit he posted.

I understand about the GDT being a "fuse" in this circuit. After finishing this third setup and finding it still is just a "meter fooling setup" , so what do I see?
I see anger sometimes. How can I keep trying to just "fool the meter".

I need no sympathy or apology, it's just that I'm angry at myself. I need more coffee and clear thinking.

I see me as that mess of a picture,
wantomake

[clarence]

Clarence,
Something must be attached to the loop to produce "FREE Energy". Where can the excess power come from if not from the Earth.


wantomake

Wantomake,

This is where I am looking at present- The Captor.

Look at these attachments and see if you can find anything that comes to mind.
All of this mangled mess is what A said was still being investigated.

Later,

Clarence

[clarence]

Clarence,
Ok, brief. I just installed the run capacitor and seen the GDT glow for the first time. So we don't need them in this system???
But you think Ariovaldo was guessing. I talked to fer123 who said Ariovaldo told him there were two "VCL slim clamper" on the loop. I'm thinking these were used to extract the ground energy. But do you see them in the pictures Ariovaldo posted? No. Here is the link to look at the VCL if you want to:

https://www.eletrorede.com.br/para-r...slim-275v.html.
It's in Portuguese or something cause I tried to chat with the company. Lost in translation big time. I googled "VCL slim clamper" and got nothing at all. But VCL is only sold in Brazil. Go figure.

Something must be attached to the loop to produce "FREE Energy". Where can the excess power come from if not from the aether or the Earth.

So back to basic patent,
wantomake

Wantomake

The VCL is nothing more than a standard pair of SURGE ARRESTOR.
They are available in all countries.
They are SAFETY devices ONLY.
They do NOT harvest energy.
Read my previous post - Please!

Thanks


Clarence