Barbosa and Leal Devices - Info and Replication Details

[BobBrown]

In place of ground , grounding, would it be possible to put the ground lines into a lake or ocean, depending on what is more handy ?
Or even using tall areal grounding, as in some of the atmosphiric power projects ?
(tall poles high in the air, strung with many wires )

Andrew

[clarence]

Hi Clarence
thanks for the swift reply
as im out on work in Macau China, I cannot test your set up
thats why I suggested but I will accomplish that when I come back to Philippines where I have a farm to plant those rods lol

as for captor less battery and charger / inverter with BL first design hope you can test also for starters like me

Hello totoalas,

yes B&L in their 2013 demonstration did power their toroid Captor with mains power which only consumed 0.10 amps by the toroids. and that was their point at that time. however the major power that lit their 6 ea 1000 watt lights come from the ground source that he was showing when he lifted and pulled on the green wire to get the audience attention! the phase of the mains he was using also was powering a small amout and that was reflected back thru the meter to the power company so that he was't cheating the power company. they have a SWER type utility system over there.
Single Wire Electrical Rurality.

this unit with the battery and inverter is its OWN SWER system. ground input by inverter neutral and then ground return as neutral with inverter phase. the powered return neutral receiving most of its power from the earth. you can test like that when you get back. since the actual mains power you would be using is reflected back through the meter to the utility company and you would be paying for what you use is legal but I would NOT
do it often. just imagine if you were a utility co and you found that somebody was using you for a Guinea pig and and then just flipping you a few quarters.I don't think they would be happy.

I think that's why the Brazilian power company created difficulties for Barbosa and Leal when they investigated and saw how their system could limit some of their Company revenues. I would be pissed.

that's why I love my unit. It's just me in my unpolluted world doing what I like with out disturbing any others as long as I'm here.


Thanks for listening.

Clarence

[wantomake]

utility mains

Hello totoalas,

you know since I don't live in the concrete jungle as you say, a city dwelling proposition hadn't really crossed my mind and I would think that B&L didn't think about either.

its not just "a ground" that is needed for this kind of unit to work properly,
it needs to be one entirely independent from any form of utility mains possible linkage or all you will be doing is using their grounding to feed the captor neutral and be by passing any of their meters to do so. I'm pretty sure that is illegal.

If you can find any totally isolated ground source that has sufficient square surface area of conductivity to provide enough earth potential to the Captor
ground return looped about the #4AWG wire ---that would work (a lot of
words - but needed to keep the point clear).

the square area would have to be large enough and provide enough potential
to keep the Captor output rms voltage value steady and matching the inverter rms voltage output at the same time. that in a nut shell is what you are trying to achieve. accomplish THAT and you are on the inside looking OUT!

I do hope I am getting the information across so as to be clear to members.
If I am not succeeding just let me know and I will go at it again.

always remember the name of this unit is "energy from the ground"

thanks,

Clarence

Thanks Clarence,
Thank you for sharing here.

I'm glad to see this presented here for all to replicate. We live out in the country and I've been trying small tests with earth power and see a lot of return. I already have a small solar setup with inverter powered with bank of batteries in my shop. Want to add this system to it and run my small shop.

Did you try different ways to send and receive the power? Copper pipes, steel rods, copper cables, aluminum cables. Sorry my inquisitive mind experiments all possibilities. Even some I shouldn't.

Thanks for the help,
wantomake

[totoalas]

Hi Clarence
thanks for the swift reply
as im out on work in Macau China, I cannot test your set up
thats why I suggested but I will accomplish that when I come back to Philippines where I have a farm to plant those rods lol

as for captor less battery and charger / inverter with BL first design hope you can test also for starters like me

[clarence]

Thanks Clarence and Level
for the clarity of info you have given......

I remember in one of the substations earthing a gi plate with lots of salt was buried 1 meter deep due to hard rock in the pit.... also how about using the power companys earthing rod installed in my house Can I add them as well...Another earthing point is the water pipe or the earthing stake from a telephone pole .... especially in a concrete jungle lol

Been experimenting with Neutral and ground using amplifier diode circuits
2 years ago which briefly put in the back burner as I concentrated on Electrical medicine .........

without the battery and inverter and just plain house power supply.... can you share with us your results also.....as Level has said of the cost of replicating
One can have a choice on being independent from the grid and one hook up with energy saving as well just like hybrid off / grid tie inverter.......

hope to see the other possibilities thanks will start checking on the parts

hope others can test on my suggestions on earthing options

Hello totoalas,

you know since I don't live in the concrete jungle as you say, a city dwelling proposition hadn't really crossed my mind and I would think that B&L didn't think about either.

its not just "a ground" that is needed for this kind of unit to work properly,
it needs to be one entirely independent from any form of utility mains possible linkage or all you will be doing is using their grounding to feed the captor neutral and be by passing any of their meters to do so. I'm pretty sure that is illegal.

If you can find any totally isolated ground source that has sufficient square surface area of conductivity to provide enough earth potential to the Captor
ground return looped about the #4AWG wire ---that would work (a lot of
words - but needed to keep the point clear).

the square area would have to be large enough and provide enough potential
to keep the Captor output rms voltage value steady and matching the inverter rms voltage output at the same time. that in a nut shell is what you are trying to achieve. accomplish THAT and you are on the inside looking OUT!

I do hope I am getting the information across so as to be clear to members.
If I am not succeeding just let me know and I will go at it again.

always remember the name of this unit is "energy from the ground"

thanks,

Clarence

[a.king21]

Thanks Clarence.

Thank you Clarence for surfacing publicly again.

It would be good science if you could post some of your run times and start and finish battery voltages.

I am in a position to replicate as are others because we have the land space.
Did you do any prior experiments to validate Barbosa Leal or did you just go for it?

I know that Lasersaber has noticed your replication and I am sure he is duplicating.

[level]

can you share with us your results also.....

Hello Clarence. Thank you for all the info on your build setup. I see that you mentioned you have run your build for about 4 hours, and I guess you mean with the battery and inverter and battery charger in a loop, as shown in your schematic drawing? I think you said your build was around $2000 or so, so it would be helpful if you can provide some more details here about how your build is performing.

What is the longest you have run your build in self looping mode with the battery, and what specifically did you have connected as a load for those tests while it was self running, and what was the battery voltage at the end of the run before you switched everything off? As you no doubt know, you have to measure the battery voltage while everything is still running and the battery is still under load at the end of the test, before you switch anything off, because the battery voltage can start to climb back up once it is no longer under a load. I am sure I am probably not the only one who would like to hear some more details about how long you have run your build in self looping mode, and what kind of battery voltage is maintained throughout the test runs while the battery is under load. You must have no doubt run your build in self looping mode with the battery for much longer periods than just four hours to confirm that it can self run for a long length of time without the battery voltage starting to drop?

[totoalas]

Thanks Clarence and Level
for the clarity of info you have given......

I remember in one of the substations earthing a gi plate with lots of salt was buried 1 meter deep due to hard rock in the pit.... also how about using the power companys earthing rod installed in my house Can I add them as well...Another earthing point is the water pipe or the earthing stake from a telephone pole .... especially in a concrete jungle lol

Been experimenting with Neutral and ground using amplifier diode circuits
2 years ago which briefly put in the back burner as I concentrated on Electrical medicine .........

without the battery and inverter and just plain house power supply.... can you share with us your results also.....as Level has said of the cost of replicating
One can have a choice on being independent from the grid and one hook up with energy saving as well just like hybrid off / grid tie inverter.......

hope to see the other possibilities thanks will start checking on the parts

hope others can test on my suggestions on earthing options

[clarence]

Hello BroMikey,

SPOT ON sir!
the best part is that you will value your self most of all.

thanks again and cheers sir.

Clarence

Hello @ all ,

I see that the photo of the toriods I used didn't make it over so I am attaching them again.
These are the ones in the transferred information LEVEL so graciously transferred from OU.
It shows the parts info from Bridgeport Magnetics to order by.im not promoting that company per say its just showing the specifics of the toroid I used and it will get the job done nicely. you don't have to tear off the secondary windings of other brands that you would get. the secondary windings of other types has to be removed or it will defeat what you are trying to do.

thanks again.

Clarence

[Forthebest]

Hi Clarence ,
glad to see you back as I and so many others need your results to be known . Always a pleasure to read your infos right to the point so people can apply directly but not being discouraged in the process . A real gift Sir and I do appreciate .

As Wistiti I am from the frozen North but will gradualy grab what's needed and
give it a try in the next few months .

Best regards

[clarence]

Thank you so much Clarence for your generosity. I receive this kindness as a gift from above and will follow your direction to the letter Sir.

Also thanks Level for the new thread and I look forward to all of the more advanced builders input as they show off their projects around the world. We won't back up, the free energy is here.

Hello BroMikey,

SPOT ON sir!
the best part is that you will value your self most of all.

thanks again and cheers sir.

Clarence

[BroMikey]

Hello BroMikey,

No the microwave transformers wont work. they designed the patent worfing to purposely throw people off so they would fail if they tried to replicate their device. sad to say it works almost every time as in your case. the actual device they used in their devises involved toroids. I have attached a photo of one of what they actually used.

hurry up and throw togethers are doomed to failure from the start. the problem is that this most often leads to discouragement of other members.
if you will slow down and read the information i posted here and just look at and observe the last updated photo I posted here and follow the circuits as they clearly show themselves and use torroids with their windings in the correct direction -- you will have success. this unit is NOT an experiment in ANY fashion it is a finished productive unit that works as is. the use of the ground rods is a necessary item or the unit will NOT work.

the ground rods can be a pain in the butt and are expensive however without them the unit will NOT work. its just that simple. I would hope that you follow the information I gave out and treat your self to an enjoyable success.
i also have attached a photo of the toroids I used.


thanks,

Clarence

Thank you so much Clarence for your generosity. I receive this kindness as a gift from above and will follow your direction to the letter Sir.

Also thanks Level for the new thread and I look forward to all of the more advanced builders input as they show off their projects around the world. We won't back up, the free energy is here.

[jimboot]

Yep thanks Level.
Here is the map for AUstralia
http://www.ga.gov.au/corporate_data/70282/70282_A3.pdf

[Wistiti]

Hi folks!
Level thank you for starting this tread!
Here is a link where people in the usa can find a geomanetic map:
Blog Entry | Geometrics.com

For the other country just google geomagnetic map with the name of your country and you may be able to have something similar to this one...
Happy experimenting!

[level]

Schematic drawing of Clarence's build from March 29, 2015

Here is a computer drawn schematic of Clarence's build setup from March 29, 2015, from ou.com: