Ionization & Water Fuel

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Guys may i tell you something

in the combustion chamber the mentioned 7,4ul of water meyer told us he was injecting totalise not even 4% of the cylinders how much of this hydrogen could be lost in the cylinder ??? i don't think to much... i have a friend witch ran his bike with a series cell... on h2 and it ran ok he said that adding charged air to the intake gave him a 30% better performance..

i have a racket for killing flys that uses only 2 1,5 v batteries and create a very nice odor of ozone.. . even with no visible discharge... there might be 2,5kv

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Meyer said

" and the water de-energized will go to the atmosphere and be again energized by the incoming sun rays...

From Meyer news:

The by-product of the WFC Water Fuel Injection process is water mist. Thus water mist goes back into the environment, and is reenergized by the sunlight (photon energy absorption). Then it can be caught again as rain water and recycled trough the engine. This can be done as either an open or closed loop system.

I translate it as Meyer use a glass box exposed to sunlight to condense the water for recirculation.

Corona discharge produces Ozone but do you think that it also produces Positive Nitrogen Ions?

It would produce nitrogen ion, not sure about polarity.

A mixture of ozone and oxygen may be obtained by subjecting pure oxygen to the influence of the silent discharge. Nitrogen must be absent, since the conditions which favour the production of ozone lead also to the formation of oxides of nitrogen. The gas must not be brought into contact either with rubber or with mercury, both of which are attacked by ozone. The gas does not, however, act upon paraffin, and stopcocks may be lubricated with metaphosphoric acid.

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I looked through about 75% of the book that Schpankme posted
last night - very simple straight forward explanations - even nh3 reference
from just nitrogen + hydrogen + silent electric discharge

page 26 - [I]"With Nitrogen* Donkin has shown that when a
mixture of hydrogen and nitrogen is subjected to the
silent electric discharge, a partial union of the two gases
takes place, with the formation of ammonia :
N2 + 3H2 = 2NH3 .

Aaron,
I don't uderstand why you continue to mentioned hydrogen/nitrogen when you have water/nitrogen.. the reactions are completely differents.. Regards

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quantrev

quantrev

Wave-Particle Duality

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Boyce and Archieblue both use Electrolyte. I though that Electrolyte would keep the reaction from working properly?

NO! You don't need any electrolyte, that change in part final reaction

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I think everyone should read this:


Tim

Tim,
Inform your leader that this reaction isn't right.. 6H2O + 2N2 = 4NH3 + 3O2

[sucahyo]

i talked to a doc in physics and he asked me about the energy, where might if come from???

Magnets creates very huge force "witch is not consumed in an electronic circuit..."

And I think because it is not electric it only help as catalyst not as reactant.

Magnet in fuel line help burn the fuel better, it surely help water dissociation or others.

Meyer didn't reused the water, he stated this... the water should be reenergized, he showed the energy reside in the water and that energy actually come from the sun

He did mention clearly of "water reuse" in the news (click for bigger images):


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If you buy one book on QM, this is a good choice.

Is there a newbie glossary book too?

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Guys may i tell you something

in the combustion chamber the mentioned 7,4ul of water meyer told us he was injecting totalise not even 4% of the cylinders how much of this hydrogen could be lost in the cylinder ??? i don't think to much... i have a friend witch ran his bike with a series cell... on h2 and it ran ok he said that adding charged air to the intake gave him a 30% better performance..

i have a racket for killing flys that uses only 2 1,5 v batteries and create a very nice odor of ozone.. . even with no visible discharge... there might be 2,5kv

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last edit...

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Thanks . Lol, that article is what I was trying to find yesterday.

I found this instead:


It seems silent discharge mentioned in 100 years old book is the corona produced by sharp point not the arc. However, my experiment show that whenever corona starting to appear, it produce loud noise. I can make video because the spark jam my keyboard....


I notice flaw in his chemistry at the first post of his theory thread. He won't answer my question about it, I don't think I will answer that. It is about how he calculate energy of water in and water out.

In here we talk more about water+ambient air in and something else out before combustion chamber.

Yeah, corona discharge needs to be enclosed in a Faraday cage or better yet inside a solid steel enclosure, so as to eliminate static electrical discharges in open air that effects video/tv monitors.

This study shows that high temperature feed gases lowers the voltage to achieve corona discharge. Their corona reactor is also made of stainless steel tube.

"A high-temperature pulsed corona plasma system
for fuel gas cleaning"
http://yp.chem.tue.nl/pdfs/2885.pdf

Still, corona discharges requires +60kv (80kv was found to be better) and high amperage current.

Regards, Mike R.

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